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Wasn't it Bertrand Russell who once said that conventional people become livid at those who opt to depart from convention simply because they see that choice as some sort of criticism against them (those who vehemently argue for conventions)? Almost like the critics back in the days of the Wright brothers when they merely heard of their intention to experiment with the theory of a flying machine. Just that expressed intention alone was enough to rile them, not to mention when the actual experiments began.

What science cannot take away.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_utzLojCIE

Can you verify this to be factual? I don't think so. Why? Because its a fallacy. What is your source of reference that the body was designed to be sexual? Thinking that way is why you believe the entire system have to align to support that belief. That in itself is a tiring thought. No wonder people are getting more confused... so much complexity added when it can be such a simple practice. First you advice against doing the practice between ages of 20 - 30, then you mentioned that its ok to do provided one has full knowledge of energy sublimination... you'd do well to be clearer with your intentions. Agree with the advice about following the middle path; this however has little to do with re-channeling one's sexual energies into one's creative or spiritual pursuits. If sex is an indulgence or addiction, then it becomes anti-spiritual in some sense, that is, unless one knows how to draw on the psychosis itself to enhance one's path. That idea about slowing down after 40 is another fallacy. Absolutely no supporting evidence to say that a person should slow down sexual activity after 40. In fact, sex becomes more empowering after 40, and can continue to do so as long as it does not turn one into a perverted monster. What is the body designed for, if i may ask? Are you implying that the sole purpose of the body is to have sex? How would you know what his girlfriend appreciates? This advice is totally in line with, and relevant to, the OP's motive for starting this discussion.

Are you seriously contemplating on nurturing a killer instinct in your 3yr old son?? One can learn to stand up where it counts without a trace of aggression, you know that right? Whats this... a mortal kombat forum?

and smiles at his child after such a long absence child greets his father...

There's increasingly new findings being uncovered pertaining to mind sciences. As the mind becomes less mysterious, so will global warming. Thats how it works. I hope for everyone's sake that science will not lose its grip on things. Going centre is good!

You know, i was just pondering there... science and spirituality both have certain benchmarks -- both are dependent on reproducibility of results to substantiate findings -- while science's options at that seems to be shrinking all the time, the reproducibility of results from practices such as meditation, qigong, and prayer are exponentially on the up. It appears that science is gradually losing its grip and unable to cope with the speed of exposures in areas such as physical diseases (especially in the field of oncology) and climatic control -- these are spiralling out of sync so rapidly that duplicating experiments in those fields of research seems to be yielding more and more mysterious and unpredictable factors, whereas spiritual quests thrive on that very mystery itself. So its not just wonderment, but the mysterious nature driving it that highlights the endless possibilities for the development of spirit. As a side observation, OP... you started this topic on a pretty sure footing, but seems to have gone downhill since. Your last post, for example, did not have the same sort of clarity and conviction as the first one. Time to rethink your strategy perhaps.

As Carl Sagan said, "For small creatures such as we, the vastness is bearable only through love."

Its no wonder they put one in MIB.

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Have you read his bio? Very interesting life experiences indeed. A true dharma warrior.

There are simply too many facets of the natural world that science will not even bother to explain because it does nothing to advance its cause, but for the spiritual, these insignificant details are not discarded, on the contrary every little dance is embraced in its totality, and allowed its own dignity, even this...

Nicely said, RV! Abstinence has many levels of benefit, none of which will manifest without gentleness, patience, forbearance and most of all, a large dose of humour.

I have noticed that as well... something peculiar to Western teachers. Some of my friends who are Dharma teachers have this demeanour about them, a sort of softer outlook on life probably derived from working with the heartmind over a long period.

Even if that were to happen, it only proves that not spirituality, but science and stupidity are ideal bedfellows. One feeding the other. I do respect science and certain technologies, and im not saying that science is stupid, but in that specific context, well... form your own opinion.

aah yes... we all could do with a bit of those harmless walks now and then

Both those images make me think of new forms of wars. Sorry, but its a fact. Science will never eradicate human ignorance.

Watered down desires? Protean musings maybe?

Science has never been known to help one die fearlessly. That is the domain, and will always irrefutably be the domain of spirit. Einstein was able to reach conclusions along that vein by virtue of his calling, not apart from that.

warm and cozy life felicitous, harmonious boundless and carefree...

Masturbation is only a means, and a very limited one at that (a few seconds duration), a little taster into what uncontaminated bliss feels like. There are other avenues which when opened leads to blissful experiences that can be spontaneously accessed during periods of intense focus on one's creative calling, or during meditative absorptions, or in my case, whenever i wanted - its like clicking a switch inside, not that difficult.

Intimate sex can be experienced beyond the realm of the physical too. It can be expressed as transmuted energies in the freedom of one's unlimited creativity pool. Playfully venture beyond the conventions set down by the status quo... push the inner boundaries! Certainly a bonus when you're an artist.