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huh? My party? You're the one handing out the invites, remember?

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You just wrote a neat post about how you have found belonging, happiness and contentment, and you STILL want in??!! You're such a fickle nickle

aha! A detailing maestro at last

This is how the thread actually started off. To the inexperienced reader, those are pretty high sounding statements, laden with authoritative finalities. To me, its gibberish. Maybe its chockfull of meaning to you (cos you share private jokes i guess) but to me, its devoid of meaning, mainly because I dont know Jeff as a person, have never seen any peer-reviewed endorsements of him, never seen any videos of him giving talks, dont know if he has any lineage, not even if hes male or female, for that matter. And suddenly, here's Jeff making an open declaration that he knows how to tell when someone has broken thru some super level consciousness, remained there for a year at least, and made the decision to now come back to live among mortals. Really?? So I began to question who is Jeff, and how he can make such claims. I want to know his credentials, because this has all the appearance of a serious spiritual break-through. Some view my need to question as a negative, passive aggressive attack on Jeff, who was supposedly merely in a celebratory mood when he made the post. Obviously whoever this 'some' are, have their receptors a little wayward. So be it.

Precisely. Thank you for strengthening what was only an expressed feeling/opinion, something which Jeff should perhaps learn to use more of.

thank you, Dwai. All good.

speaking for myself.. Im not rankled, but concerned because of the implications of posting whats as good as gibberish in the GD forum. It can open up inexperienced readers' gullibility, and there are no shortage of them in DDB. You might not see the gibberishness of it, but i do. You see.. we all view things differently, reflect, and respond differently. We are allowed that here, no?

Haha well said. I see an invitation for you soon.

Lol ok. Carry on then

Highlights the importance of equalising compassion with awareness/wisdom. Masters have often said birds cannot fly with only one developed wing. Paraphrasing Guru Padmasambhava: "Neither lose conduct in the view, nor lose view in the conduct. To lose conduct in the view, it is easy for one to think nothing of consequences of actions, and act in ways not aligned with the teachings; to lose view in conduct, it is easy for one to lose sight of sunyata and become prone to karmic repercussions without seeing a way out. These ones suffer the ignorance of ceaseless and burdensome activity. The correct practice is to keep both conduct and view in balance."

Allinone.. are you able to write and express yourself in plain language for the benefit of those of us who are not well-able for crypto-spiritual babble? Just wondering. If you can't, its understandable. No pressure.

Thanks for the anecdotal sharings, Nungali. Good, straightforward accounts of personal experiences is always refreshing to read, more so when its actually coherently put. Hopefully the gods will smile on you too.

Ditto for me, too. Thanks Jeff.. you need to sharpen your comprehension skills, mate

No big deal to have developed such an ability. In my world, its no different than vast numbers of Aussies now having chopstick skills on par with any Asian. Practice is all... with consistence, patience, and most of all guard against any temptation to mock one's own developed skill by tempting other unknowns to test one's ability. The need to do this is a potentially dangerous one. I have made it clear before how we must exercise extreme caution to permit such interactions with internet personas, especially those with no credentials other than self-proclaimed mastery over base-level siddhis. I still maintain this cautionary advice, both to self and others.

To fully embody the Dharma is to simply give in to awareness's natural expression. ~ Paramito Ladakh ~

simple, honest and truthful words can have that effect on me too. As my Buddhist friend once said, "While others may have their mystical prophets and immortal sages, as Buddhists, our only prophets and immortal wisdom teachers take the form of ageing, sickness, and death." This realistic, completely ordinary call to awakening has been consistent and unbroken from the time Gautama first turned the wheel of Dharma and began teaching.

Thank you, Dawei. I know your suggestion was made with a sincere heart. I have no curiosities to satisfy, nor the need to seek super guru stuff like some others. Although a mediocre practitioner of low stature, my affinity with spiritual practice really did begin when i was a wobbly toddler whose favourite seat in my grandfather's house was on his tiger rug in his private shrine room, which he shares with no one but not once was i deterred and not once was he able to deny me entrance. You know how soft grandparents can be.... im now 57, but still have lots to learn - what to, is best left to my own intuitive self to tell me. I only ask for appropriate, sensible and properly explained answers from Jeff from time to time in relation to some (not all) posts of his that sets off my doubtmeter with much excitement.

This is the thing that i find odd with some of your statements, Jeff... that there is much effort put into attempting to put yourself as an authority on things which (I am pretty sure) you haven't had much exposure to, for example: "Specifically, it is not possible to use drugs to access higher levels of realization." And how did you come to this steadfast conclusion? Im not saying its possible either, but am not denying the probability because its a vast world out there, with remote tribes and shamanic practices in the Amazon, Andes, Sulawesi, Borneo, Indonesia (Bali), the Andaman islands, India, China, Africa, Australia... who likely have such vast experiences with psychedelics that it would be impossible and even silly for me to emphatically deny at least a genuine possibility that our knowledge and applications of 'drugs' to this point pales by comparison, and comparatively appear like child's play compared to what is effectively a (pun intended) mind-bending plethora of fungi, herbs, roots, bark, leaves and saps, even certain bugs for that matter. For the sake of emphasis, I reckon that if i were to return a number of lifetimes in a similar existence, in all likelihood I will gain perhaps only a fractional improvement on present knowledge of the natural wisdom and innate skills appropriated to these tribespeople. Therefore, i'd be very slow to utter 'not possible' in this regard (to the unfathomable efficacy of psychedelics in mind expansion exercises). Those who have travelled any of those places mentioned on spiritual journeys may concur, at least a little even, that psychedelics do indeed speed up the opening of proper dormant forces when used under guidance. Although personally not a user and supporter, I have met some Indian, Nepali and Bengali holy men (sadhus) and also local Malaysian natives, who have pacified my curiosity on more than one occasion where i was highly suspicious of their self-professed connection with transcendental realms.

Projecting nothing. Your statement needs no such attempt.

Im almost sorry now that Mother Meera's good name and status has been brought up and allowed to be incorrectly scrutinized. As mentioned, Her work is tangibly felt by 10s of thousands, whereas here we have an id-less internet personality shouting kudos to another id-less internet personality, and defending the action, moreover, with more convoluted explanations piled one on top of another. Its just a bit hard to swallow, and even sounds bizarre, if i may say so.

What exactly are you trying to imply with the top statement? That your interpretation of what's positive and negative is the only measure? As far as i am concerned, the OP's boldish declaration is conjecture - a subjective interpretation from Jeff, and because it was posted in GD, its an open topic where comments/rebuttals seeking clarifications and substantiations are the norm, though none has been forthcoming, but thats already been expected. If this is interpreted to have been negative and ill-motived, then I will question the validity of the premise even more.

In MM's example there is ample tangibility and openness. In this instance both are lacking, so the legitimacy is open to questioning.

A real climb endorsed by authenticated coverage will surely be worthy of accolades, not one that came from a 3rd party announcing that the climb was made. Faith and beliefs have their usefulness, i'm sure... but sometimes solid and tangible results have more cause to put doubts to bed, and allow others who may want to follow practical means to enhance their steps forward.

Not disappointed, but wary whenever someone over the internet gives a shout-out similar to what you have done. Any experienced practitioner, or even one as unaccomplished as myself, will probably want to scrutinize such declarations too, especially where a term like 'super guru' was included. I think its just wise not to buy into flamboyant statements which appear online without being shown any avenue whereby one can investigate/verify/discern the authenticity of such statements.