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Yeah!! Lets go and suffer and be immortal!!! No problem!

aha! Cool! Thanks! So the sun and moon would then be the top two vertebras(atlas and axis), right? Do you know which order the other planets would be in, in relation to the vertebras?

Funny! Two days ago I had a dream where the seven vertebras where explained to me as representing the 5 senses and two more functions(that I ofcourse dont remember). Nothing real esotheric, sorry, but still a relevant dream

oh...Im not shure if this is the same as Wang LiPing teaches. I never said that. I just saw somewhere that this is what Falun Gong is about, or atleast the 5th movement. I dont remeber where I read it... can search a little and see if I find it again.

I have a link of Hongzhi's flowing movents on another computer. My guess is it is more a spontaneous movement than a specific qigong. I also recently discovered that Falun, or the law wheel, actually refers to the microcosmic orbid. So Falun Gong is microcosmic orbit gong. But the secterism in Flaun Gong is still not so charming...

Please update your progress here when you get it going! I would love to hear how it goes and how you do it

So this kind of discussion is an historical phenomena, and not just on internet forums

Thanks! The video with the bulls where really baddass! Good thing they know how to relax aswell

more baddass? got link? oh, and by the way: I read it!

These guys have frozen alive algea: http://www.e3live.com Maybe they can be used somehow? I dont know how to grow them at home, but I too would be really interested if anybody know!!!

but...isnt this Pang HeMing in those pictures???

That crystal was freaking awsome! It was blinking!!! ...no, seriously, good message but why oh why does the messenger need to be such a clown? Or a parrot, or whatever he was? Are they clowns on other planets and dimensions? I know a lot of people from outer space ad higher dimensions and they all behave pretty normal

I got through the other one. Great reading! Where do you get these articles YMWong? Will plough my way through this text at an other time...

hahaha, Patrick - Kunluners 1-0 T.K.O.!!!

Your not alone Patrick, the Kunluners fall over too

Welcome back Patrick! Somehow I thought of you when I saw this statue of a sailor doing Zhan Zhuang, drunken style qigong

Hello Kunlunountains! I have been wondering a long time about the connection between Soaring Crane, Wild Goose and Xing Shen Zhuang. What I read somewere online was that Pang He Ming created xing shen zhuang to correct some unwanted effects from soaring crane qigong. Do you know anything about this? What would you say is the difference between these three qigongs?

Ive tried many times to write something about all the romantic ideas about teachers that are out there. But Im not so articulate today so Ill just write: there is so many romantic ideas about teachers(mostly because of all the premature gurus) out there and they cloud our way to finding our real teachers.

Hahahaha! wonderful! that quote made my day! Im going home to clock in many hours of stillness after work today

40 minutes is not that bad, Mal! Most people cant go more than 3 minutes before some complaining bursts out of the stillness. This last 6 months Ive been doing Xing Shen Zhuang and that has definately increased my comfort in meditation and zhan zhuang. Because of too many practices Ive stopped working on the full lotus and just focus on sitting comfortably. And Ive also noticed that as Im entering stillness the whole body becomes very still. The only thing that moves is the belly. ...until my mind wanders, then the body becomes uncomfortable aswell. But when Im able to keep my attention in the stomach and on the breathing, and not wander off, then my body is completely still and comfortable too. I dont think its about "sitting through the pain". I think it is more about being still, and then the pain decreases. The more Im able to be still and relaxed, the less pain I feel.

Funny thing though... how kunlun seems to attract so many strange accusations. One say Max has been taken over by evil spirits, other say Max implants worms that takes over people, and then there is all the talk of reptilians from outer space. Any other strange stuff? To me this is an indication of too much astral energy. But is it kunlun who is too astral or does it trigger other peoples astral energies?

20 lifetimes??? You're too kind Yes. Probably ALL those who claim sudden revelation has had extencive training beforehand. For MANY liftimes. With MANY teachers. But they go into the historybooks as someone lucky, blessed, special or divine. When in reality what was needed was hard work through disipline, groundshaking traumas, crisis and deep fear. ...and good teachers.