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welcome! for me i enjoy playing and sharing. how amazing what the internet world is making possible ... namaste! jan.

here is more (almost 10 minutes): this one is from today. i like to share my music because lately i didnt have the opportunity to play much. i used to compose much more. this recording is made with an electric piano / computer because i dont have a real piano at home. so it sounds better than the other recording but it is on the other side not the same special atmosphere a real piano provides. it was fun to play. it is just kind of hard to convert it to a movie to be able to upload it on youtube. maybe someone knows a site where you can actually upload mp3-music. i have made several cds years ago but i never had the time to check if someone wants to distribute them (just one got published). the music on the cds are more compositions in a film score style (strings, flutes and so on). others are more for meditation. most of them are good to travel inside people told me. love, jan.

... hi everyone ... interesting video. watch to the end. enjoy.

hi smile, that sounds very interesting. what kind of time travels did you have? i was always extremely interested if there was a "real" time travelling. did you actually see the past as if it was reality? did you travel with your astral body? was it like a lucid dream? i would be so happy if you wouldnt mind to write about that experience. thanks in advance. jan.

the kunlun is bogus thread moved now to the qi transmission thread. how sad. people ... just enjoy what is being offered. maybe you can send some nice videos, too. i was once talking to an ex shaolin student. i was asking him if it was possible to move things without touching and how to achieve it. he answered: if you want to move things around just grap them with your hand. what is the use of this power? rather search for something to make people happy. maybe you can fill a room with a magic atmosphere and leave everyone enchanted and happy. THAT is an achievement. in the martial arts one thing i think is very true: it is easy to learn to beat someone up. you just have to study very hard. but to really help someone from being beaten up from life and help him to regain trust in life. that is really not as easy. i dont think it is important if someone can throw people around or not (my opinion). i personally think it is great to see but i am not really searching for this teachers as much as i used to. i feel the more happy i get with myselve on this path the less important it gets to gain powers or to be convinced by some masters if those powers exits or not. the little i experienced is enough for me to believe there are lots of things i do not understand. lets just inspire each other. there are so many peoples in your life to play that getting energy game like displayed here. here we can display our skeptisism (that is even rewarding for everyone else) but get a little rid of this whole rude thing we see every day everywhere anyway.

hi! i practiced out of body experiences when i was around 12 to 14 almost every night. i never could actually "see" the room from the astral sight but i often came to the point where i felt myselve as if i existed two times. it was a feeling is if i was in the body and in the same time above my body. it was scary in the beginning but later i enjoyed it when i came to that point. i used a very simple techinque which worked really, really good on me. first i relaxed myselve from the toe to the head. when i was deeply relaxed i imagined that the floor i was lying on was moving me around in a circle (like a merry goe around i dont know if that is the correct name). i imagined the center of the moving was my hip. and i moved clockwise or anti-clockwise. like lying on a platfrom that moves you. after a while i had the sensation of a special kind of feeling "dizzy" or hard to describe it in another language. the moving in circle started by itself. next stage was that i felt the turning become stronger and stronger. faster and faster. it was so strong i kind of lost control. after that in front of my third i there was a big feeling of a huge space (like a little universe). then i felt like two "bodies" separating and then i was feeling "myselve" as the body and also as a second "body" very light above me. the lightness was a very pleasant feeling. i was deeply relaxed. i think that was the key for if it worked or not. the more relaxed, the easier it was. the more i wanted it to happen the less it happened. funny is that the first time i actually practiced it was one of the strongest results. i had no expectations so i went in it with a blank mind. i got very very scared from the first time! but on the other hand i enjoyed it, too. more i couldnt do. i was also afraid that one day i could actually "see" something. when i ws dreamign this happened too and i could see - but i ususally didnt see the room as it really was. one or two times in the dream i was attacked by something when i was "flying" in the room. the best defense was not to attack back but to pray (funny, i am not christian but that spontaniously came into my mind and it worked, too) or send love to the "attacker". i read in a book that this dreams where you think you fall and wake up suddenly are the ones when your astral body goes very fast back into your body. i have to say that i dont know if there is any danger in this practices. COOL THREAD! THANKS!

I am sure this one was posted before by someone because it is a quite famous clip. Anyway. I think its really courageous and inspirering.

you are so right. thanks! i experienced that kind of stuff but i could have stopped any moment. no being controlled. just a pleasant feeling for me to follow the energy i felt. i strongly doubt the guy who did it could do it to anyone resisting. but that was not the point of it. it is pleasant. good feeling. makes you happy. that is it. at least for me. no guru. maybe there are masters who can do it but i am not interesting in learning it. i would always rely on martial arts. good training. good grappling skills. good muay thai skills. hard training. and always stay open to learn new things. dont close yourselve up. life is a miracle. maybe tomorrow i will talk different. who am i to know anything? if you want to control people buy a gun. or practice martial arts for many years (cheaper buying a gun). i want to express that even i think the guy is in my opinion overacting it in the video i respect those things. the reaction of the people are not acted. it is so easy to make things bad. i am thankful (even if i dont agree with many things) that compared to 20 years ago now we are able to actually CHOOSE from different things like that to see. maybe 20 years ago even a "bad" video would have been a sensation to many people. we shouldnt forget to respect other ways. i imagine those people i judge fast about to stand in front of me. what would i say to them right in the face? good thing to think about. love and peace. jan.

that is the video showing his record (i think nobody posted it yet) great post! cool guy!

i would support your idea if i would live in the usa. maybe i have to start something here. after the spiritual work i am doing with a group of friends we use to hug each other for long times. that is such an awsome thing!! i learned so much from that. afterwards you feel so energized. one of my mentors used to call hugging "applied qi gong" would be fun to see all the people here we call "trolls" melt in the arms of the ones they ones argued hardly against. i feel warm even thinking about hugging.

cried again watching it. cool guy!

ALSO ONE SUGGESTION. This would maybe also help to some current problems. In the european forums I know the Webmaster can close a thread when he/she feels that: - people are too rude to each other - the thread is circling around something else than originally stated in the thread - there is no forthcoming in the thread i think this is very good becuase it saves peoples energies. also there is a big barrior for people who are what we describe as trolls. one example: a "troll" wants to make something bad. he opens a thread. people are insulting each other or not. there is a conclusion. thats it. if now everyone repeats itself the webmaster closes the thread. the barrior to open the same kind of thread for the "troll" is much higher and he/she will make a fool of himself (hopefully ....). just a thought. love and peace!

you guys make me want to fly to the usa before the seminars come to europe. i am having such powerful results with kunlun that i am amazed. so it would be a thing to see how the seminars would be. maybe i seriously think of flying to the usa before april (when it is planned to come to amsterdam). yesterday i had such a powerful laughter-attack after the kunlun in the car ... i dont know if i ever laught as much as i did lately as one of many effects of the practice. the laughter came from so deep that i felt very purified afterwards in my loungs. after that i had to teach children and it was so funny how i understood them in such a different way. as if i could right jump into the middle of them and do nonsense together. during the laughter attack i had the mobile on and recorded it even. now in the beginning of the next day i listened to it again and got another attack. it is gorgeous! and i am doing kunlun just for almost 1 month. i know this kind of energies from previous techniques but never so easy to receive. maybe i will check flights now just to see how much this trip would be. and also when the next workshop in the usa will be. love and peace! p.s. dear cameron. thank you very much for your reports. they have often inspired me!

SO right! SO easy! SO beneficial for all users. Cool post!

Good post. I think the remarkable thing of Kunlun is that you do not have to make your leggs tired before they start shaking. In my Martial Arts/Standing Qi Gong (holding positions) training it always took me a while, lots of discipline and sweat to activate this shaking. The "letting go" was much harder to "achieve" than with Kunlun. Kunlun is not physically so exhausting and yet extremely effective. The exercice discribed in your text seems like a Martial Arts/Qi Gong exercice. You make your muscles tired until the natural Qi flow is not restricted by the tensions in the muscles anymore. Later you guide that vibrating force to different locations in the body if desired. In Kunlun I do not have to make my muscles tired. They start to shake the same way and (at least for me) even more than when I made them tired (like for example one hour of standing mediations). So for me personally the result is stronger and I have less "effort". In the last years I was used (and from the intense Martial Arts training) to "do" a lot. Kunlun provides me with a source of not "having to do". Just letting it happen. So also it shows me that in my training I focussed too much on the active part. I think that is what is so powerful and special about Kunlun. you get strong effects with just sitting down and holding the easy position. For someone who was used to overcome the limits of the body in different ways this is like taking a walk. Which doesnt mean that the effect of this walk is shallow. Maye I am just used because of my western mind that "lots of effort" bring "lots of results". And now there is "few effort" and still "lots of results". This is something I do not understand myselve. Actually I do not desire to understand it either. That is the magic of it. Now that I started Kunlun in all my other practices I can find this force much easier. The acces is easier for me now. In the end there are more practices with a similar approach to that kind of energy. For example even I am not an Osho follower I respect he made lots of meditations for people that worked good. "Dynamic mediation" or "Kundalini" have also the goal of just following the energy within. The approach again is exhausting (first you have to wildly jump around and so on, go "crazy" until you let go and just follow). Kenneth Cohen writes in his book about "spontanious Qi Gong". Similar thing. Master Kiew of Malaysia writes about how to activate spontanious movements, too. There is a practice in China I think it is called "wild goose" or something like that. You can see the practicioneers running around in the park like they were insane. Shaking and shouting and much more. At least in China people do not really mind them. It is nothing new. But it works great! Hope I could help you a bit. Namaste. Jan.

Loosing my religion is a great song! Good choice. Here is one of my favorites (I could almost post any Beatles song from the album Revolver to the last they made). It touches me beyond the lyrics. I cried lots of times listening to it. It was tears of feeling some bigger plan. Across The Universe / J. Lennon Beatles Words are flowing out like endless rain into a paper cup, They slither while they pass, they slip away across the universe Pools of sorrow, waves of joy are drifting through my open mind Possessing and caressing me. Jai guru de va om Nothing's gonna change my world, Nothing's gonna change my world. Images of broken light which dance before me like a million eyes, That call me on and on across the universe, Thoughts meander like a restless wind inside a letter box they Tumble blindly as they make their way Across the universe Jai guru de va om Nothing's gonna change my world, Nothing's gonna change my world. Sounds of laughter shades of earth are ringing Through my open views inviting and inciting me Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns, it calls me on and on Across the universe Jai guru de va om Nothing's gonna change my world, Nothing's gonna change my world.

I just wanted to express my appreciation for this wonderful and easy method. I works so powerful on me and it really gives me a perfect tool to get in contact with myselve and it opens doors in such a fast way that i didnt think I would be able to open so soon. I express my thanks to Max and to Mantra to help to promote this technique to the world. Some people where arguing about money. There are better ways to make money than just teaching one technique (in the end 3 but the one is already enough for a while I guess ...) and then you are more or less your own master. Even without transmission (which I will be doing when Max comes to Europe) my results are stunning. I had orgasmic feelings lately during the practice that in this way I had never experienced. A lot of moving, shaking, wild laughter, throwing the body forth and back and so on. Sometimes this stuff is a bit strange but after the sessions I feel very released. I try to do celebacy as much as possible. My girlfriend lives in another country and we see each other in periods of 6 weeks. For myselve I would make the 100 days but with a girlfriend it is harder. Maybe the 6 or 7 weeks are better than nothing. I practice 1 to 2 hours a day. Furthermore I study and teach Martial Arts and practice a Qi Gong style that (I feel) does not interfere with Kunlun. The opposite happens. I feel my Qi Gong training intensified. I would even stop it for a while but there are reasons that i cannot. Still that would be a question to ask to Max or Mantra if that mixing could be "dangerous". I trust in my experience with lots of methods and my feeling is better than ever since. I feel like I am riding out of darkness. My last year has not been so "good". Somebody close to me died and made me more conscious that this is something we will all face sometime. In November I started to increase my amount of Qi Gong training a lot. I cut off a bit of all the Mixed Martial Arts training I am doing. I realized once again that all the goals I achieved in competitions helped me to become much more disciplined/loose some limitations that I had BUT did not still the thurst of my longing. I wanted again start from the beginning. I was in monastaries before, travelled to shamans and kept in contact with a lot of good people. Now I wanted to concentrate even more on finding my own truth. I went to India and practiced 2 to 5 hours a day. I wrote down all my experiences. On christmas I forgot of my doughts regarding Kunlun and added it to my practice (because of some things I already stated. I am a bit allergic to websites with things like "short way to enlightenment" and so on. But now I can a bit more understand that Kunlun - at least for me - really shortened some things for me already.). I am very happy that I did start with Kunlun. The kind of energy in Kunlun reminds me of dynamic meditations. Still for me it is much easier to get into the magnetic energy. So easy and yet so powerful. Today I had to smile in the city so often. It is hard to say but I feel more happy inside. And considering that this is just the start I am looking forward to all the layers that will still come (may it good or "bad"). I hope that we in this forum can work more closely together. There is no better way. This is just a projection of the mind. If someone is happy with his system and shines I shall be happy together with him/her. There are so many experienced people in this forum. There are so many good ways! I already got so many good inputs from all of you. So also to you: thanks! Love and peace, Jan.

hi! i just tried to download the file but it was said "bla bla bla ... has exceeded the download limit ..." i would be happy if you could try again. i have a mind machine at home that uses this tones together with light. there is a program called "neuro programmer" with which you can easily do it, too. i dont know if you wrote about this before. in this program you can also easy add your own affirmations. since i am doing kunlun a lot of this things i was interested before loose their colour. kunlun has been such an incredible thing to me since i started it. i really have to express my thankfulness one day to max himself. i am a musician, too. maybe soon i will post something i composed. just for inspirering. (sorry i have the feeling my english today is worse than ever). love and peace!

my pancakes suck ... sorry ... if you care for thai food i might be able to help.

WOW! What a Kunlun session I just had! I am still feeling the energy in my leggs. I wouldnt be able to explain "why" but it really works very well on me. also it deepens and supports my qi gong training and my martial arts training in a very good way. i have never been so much of an observer and critic. thats sometimes bad sometimes good. i prefer jumping in the water and swim if i have a good feeling about something. most of the times i had good experiences with that. i surely respect any other way. Anyway: thank you everyone that helps to get this techniques more public! I was not in the workshop (i will go when it comes to europe) but I can say that those things are not to be paid by money. If there is something that works I am happy to pay for it whatever it takes. I agree with the whole overdoing the website thing and also about some "flaws" in the presentation. But in the end if you have a good thing to offer and if you are not a sect (which is for sure not the case from what i can feel) it is ok to make people courius. for sure it worked on me. i got courios from this whole throwing people with chi around thing. now i am just happy to get to know myselve and my energy better. i dont care so much about some things anymore. i tasted the cake and it tastes good. of course i could continue critizizing (sorry my bad english) the cook and the kitchen forever and try to pee on the meals being prepared. BUT also i could use that energy (after i may have told - which is my right - some customers that i dont like THIS kitchen and there are better ones in town) and focus it on my own restaurant, my own favorite meals and so on. if i see people getting sick from the food of a specific restaurant i should open my mouth. but if most people seem happy why stand outside the window and waste my energies on waving to the customers inside? just some thoughts... My suggestion to all of us: post less practice more (whatever technique) the result will be greater and more beneficial for everyone. namaste.

There are lots other threads here, too. The Kunlun are simply the ones wih more respondings. I think this forum is quite fair: the posts with more replies stay "up" in the range. If people would reply more to other things it would change. So in the end it is fair: the interest of the people (positive or negative) estimate the outcome of what is being discussed here. Everybody is free to post or reply to what he/she wants and of course also ignore the things he doesnt feel interested about. Sounds like some kind of good working democracy to me ... In the end maybe -yes- would be also an idea to have a Kunlun forum just to focus more on this lineage. The advantage would be more effetiveness in the discussion for people who actually practice the technique. Especially beginners will be less confused by "anti-Kunlun posts" (which are OK when they are being done more respectful than recently here). I think when you have decided to do something with all heart you should go for it for a while to judge and stop reading what everybody things about it. That will make you less confused as a beginner and jumping from one thing to another is not something to dig a deep hole and find water. On the other hand the discussions here are very colourful(I would wish them to be more respectful because in the end we all have the same goal and I agree with Cameroon that saying something is "bad" and offering something "better" is boring and what is being done in the world every day anyway.). We do not have to forget one thing: if someone is very satisfied with what he/she does we should wish him luck. We are all one and we can get inspired by someone else who proceeds on his path and is happy. Even I share some critisism about what is said about the presentation of Kunlun I am more a person to see the outcome of something. The people who where on a workshop almost all liked it. Sounds like a brilliant outcome to me. My own experiences with practicing this technique from the book are very good. I practice other methods, too, but I found it to be a very helpful contribution. I respect the thing about transmissions and all of that. But I also feel that if you have a good backround in Neikung/Qi Gong practices you can go for it without transmissions. So when I will go for a workshop I will do it because I want to feel the teacher and students presenting this system and using it for years. I believe that if you practice good you will have help from the other spheres regardless of transmission or not transmission. If your inner light burns there will be spirits to become interested in supporting you. I do defintely not deny that a transmission can be a powerful thing. But also it is important in my opinion to take responsibilty in your own progress and trust in it. So we shall see. Namaste, Jan.

I am practicing additionally to my normal training kunlun now. I thought I give it a try and see. I cannot tell much yet because to say something about a practice needs time. For now I am impressed about the effectiveness. But I can say more in a while. I have done lots of things in the past and I could guess that Kunlun seems to have a good effect on us westeners because it makes it easier to let go and just follow the inner flow. I think it fits very good in the kind of things I practice right now. It is less doing but receiving. This component is a perfect puzzle for my practice (Martial Arts, Qi Gong and sitting meditation).

I hope this was not posted yet. Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyzIKDVxw3Y...feature=related Namaste!

I can recommend Renu Li, the wife of Juan Li. I was attending several seminars with her in the past but I didnt meet Juan Li so far. I think she is a really good teacher! Namaste.