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dear mantra, in case you are interested in going to Cologne, germany: it is a very open minded and big city concerning spiritual things. there are lots of activities and possibilities going in that direction. there are main places where they offer lectures and seminars. also there is a agency one could contact that arrange these kind of seminars. it has a good reputation as far as i would say and i know one woman that works there a bit. i could talk to her and ask if there was interest in "promoting" the seminar. in case you are interested in cologne let me know. i would happily help for free sleeping etc. good luck, jan.

hi freesun! the german connection ... yes, he has a homepage: http://www.longbao.de/qigong/intro.php to be honest: it looks to me as yes, he is an acknowledged disciple of wang liping but he seems to have the "master" title not in qi gong. he is a kung fu master as well. that is my first impression of the homepage but i could be very wrong, too. maybe i will go there one time. he lives in dortmund which is not so far away from me. affenbrot: if you want it would be great if you would write a bit about master guo. i would be especially interested how you felt his qi field transmissions (the thing when he creates a field of qi and people are just acting with this field). thank you in advance! also i would be interested if you did qi gong or things like that before and why you chose kunlun. i am personally interested because i have a good feeling to both and i may see max and master guo to decide what suite me or what can support me on my current way. love and peace! jan.

Hi inner light, I just found out that there is a direct student of Grandmaster Wang Liping in Germany. He was assigned by Wang Liping to teach in the West. His name is Master Long Jun. I dont know him but this might be interesting. Also there is a Qi Gong Master in Bremen, Germany. His name is Master Guo. On the Website of Master Guo is a photo of him and he is pretty old. He has a very gentle face and warm hearted eyes. There is a Qi Gong Master named Zhi Chang Li in Munich, Germany. I met him about 12 years ago. He teaches mostly taoist meditations like mic orbit, inner smile and a lot more. I liked him and I would recommend him. I also heard about a supposed Grandmaster of Qi Gong in Munich but I have the feeling this is some kind of moneymaking. If you are interested look in the Forum www.kampfkunst-board.info that is where I heard of him. There is a direct lineholder of Chen Fake Chensytle Tai Chi and Hunyuan Qi Gong in Germany. He is 18th or 19th Generation Chen Style and 2. or 3. Generation Hunyuan Qi Gong assigned by Grandmaster Feng Zhiqiang himself. Feng Zhiqiang seems to be a very widely acknowledged Master in China. I heard of him lots of times from different sides and it was all positive. Hope I could help you! P.S. If Max would come to Europe that would be very interesting indeed. Mantra said he would come in March one time to me but I do not know if this is "up to date". LOVE Jan.

good luck!

hi everyone, i am very inspired lately to practice longer periods of qi gong and taoist meditation daily. i was very inspired by the amount of time that some people spend practicing here in that forum. since i met lots of masters and teachers in my life so far i thought it is maybe not the solution right now to start something "new" but deepen the "old". instead of listening to all kinds of views deepening my own. which doesnt mean that one day i will go back to a teacher again. i stumpled upon a book called "tranquil sitting". basically it is about embryonic breathing and focussing on the lower dantian. so instead of 1 hour a day i started 2 to 5 hours a day. since my job allows me to do that and my girlfriend right now lives far away i had good basic ground for starting that kind of intense practice. maybe i do not need to do this forever but right now it feels right and i do not have to push me much to do it. it comes almost naturally. i started about 2 weeks ago. i have to say that just focussing on the lower dantian inspires me so much! it is not that i do not practice my "normal qi gong" but this simply exercice brought me so much benefit!!! it has such a balancing effect. since i am also practicing a lot of mixed martial arts my back is kind of weak because of all the grappling. after 1 week of practicing the dantian meditation i had a strong heat coming into the spine and for a couple of days the pain was completely gone. i had lots of good signs lately doing that meditation. i know it for years but now i discover it new. i am so happy and thankful to have been inspired by people in this forum to take that step so i wanted to just share my gratitude and happiness. some things are so easy and yet so powerful. i am curious like a little child what will come next on this path. i keep notes in a book every day (meditation time, experiences and so on) and since i have to drive a lot every day i just continue the exercice while i am driving (i do not recommend this to anyone, i can handle it very good but dont do that unless you are sure you can focus good on the street, too). that is all i wanted to say. i will go away for a while soon and deepen what has been started. i dont know if i will be able much to discuss what i wrote and if i think about it maybe i also do not want to discuss it. i think that it is not about WHAT i practice but the fact that i do it more intense and in depth than before. i think that most secrets are so obvious we may not see their depth. i learned many forms but again here i am beginning new and knowing i didnt know much and i still dont. i will for a while stop to run for masters and teachers. i thank them with all my heart and when the time is right i will see one again. i just want to share it heart to heart with the people who get inspired back. namaste, jan.

1. Embryonic breathing / focussing on the lower dantian 2. Some Qi Gong moves standing 3. Helping and loving without expecting 4. Chi massage after practice and Yin phase (laying down and letting "it" happen) 5. Mixed Martial Arts Sparring with few ego

Hi to all, the possibility anyone responding to this is small but sometimes the universe has some fine plans for us. Just wanted to let you know that I plan to go to India, Goa, this december (about the 9th to the 27th). I will practice about 3 to 5 hours a day Qi Gong, meditation and Martial Arts. Aside from that I will let the sun burn down on me while I am slightly sipping on my fresh Mango Juice. If anyone happens to be in India or Goa that time just let me know. Would be fun to practice together or just exchange thoughts a bit. No ego "who is the better" things, just heart to heart. Love and namaste, Jan.

You are very right. I totally agree right now. After all there has been quite a path for me to say that. I just thought that after reading the post of Sunshine a "beginner" has to start at some point. Maybe some people already on this path for a while come to the point of studying "alone" for a while and have great results in it. At least that is what counts for me right now. I believe it is good to have some tools to adapt to that changes. And for a beginner (as the starter of this threath calls himself) it may be good to do what Sunshine suggested. Finding someone resonating with you. Namaste, jan.

Hi! Do not make yourselve crazy. Start with one method and make your experiences in it. There are "wrongs" and "rights" about lots of methods. We all want to find the perfect teachers. But are we the perfect students? You do not have to practice a technique all your life. Go deep into one thing and it will flower for you. You will know the time to move on. In my opinion the best results comes from praciticing regularely. The person itself is more important than the technique. But then again - good technique doesnt bother either. In the end - in my opinion - real dedication is the key to succes. There are "bad" teachers who have "good "students. People who tell "bad" things about certain teachers at least went there and found out. That is one step. On the other hand: people also tend to blame teachers for their lack of succes. It is easy to blame someone else because then you do not have to change yourselve. If you practice an "easy" thing like meditating with the Dantian for a couple of hours a day for sure you will have stunning results. Good luck on your path! Jan.

You are so right. I am looking forward for Max coming to Europe! Somebody on this board said that the masters presented here do not have good representatives (I forgot who and it doesnt matter). With you that doesnt fit. All you wrote so far showed love and respect behind and inside of you (from what I can feel). So in my humble opinion even if Max learned from his grandmother the results are what counts. And they seem to shine. Namaste, Jan.

I think there is nothing at all wrong with that. Especially in the present times so many masters seem top pump up out of nowhere and they all have a perfect marketing, great websites, great abilities, healed millions of people and know everything (and are on the side a bit immortal, a bit enlightened and dont need a car to the seminars they are giving beecause they fly through the window). And the testimonials on their sites are so smashing that if you heard from a guy that cured a major desease you are about to get bored compared to that kind of stories .... This all fits in our lack of patience and in our need for fast results. In the end if you take the good old zen meditation it is proven that it takes people to a good destination. But it takes time and lots of effort, too. But who wants to spend all that time and dedication? And does it still really fit in that time period? On the other hand ... if there is a real good master AND has the good website and all of that maybe they have to overdoe it in order to make people curious. I do not know. I get the opinion I really do not know much at all .... Namaste, Jan.

Hi there, it is funny that Frank Shamrock found this way. He always was the one with (in my opinion) fewest respect for his opponents and with few "philosophy". In the end it is good that such people change their views. That is giving me hope. I have been praciticing Luta Livre and Muay Thai next to my internal training and the traditional Martial Arts. Good to see other people like that. I think it is a good combination if one doesnt "loose" the way. Sometimes, after spending many hours training with internal Martial Artists, I found it sometimes quite refreshing to train with some people who do not know the internal way at all and just like to fight. I can learn from both so much. I think mixing both together (atl east for the fighting aspect) is very good and fun. I found out that my Tui Shu and Qi Gong Training gave me lots of good sensatory feeling especially for the grappling and the Muay Thai Clinch. I wrote a lot more than I actually wanted ... keep up the good training and enjoy this beatiful way!

dear adam, your post touched me a lot. thank you. actually that is what i am doing right now. i stopped for a while searching for the "perfect" master. i use the tools that i already got and practice every day a lot of time more than usual. the "results" make me very happy and thankful. your post again supported my opinion because i am also sometimes insecure when i read all those posts of all that great masters that seem to know everything. but it is my own choice to believe in that things and my own choice to follow them, give them energy or not. anyway i wish all people from the foundation training that they find what they where looking for. we will only know what is good or bad if we find out ourselve or if we follow our intuition about something before we step into it. i am far beyond judging them. they seem to spend a lot of energy in their way and i respect that. i hope they will be a good help for this sometimes dark times and a light of inspiration for the people around them. i think we all have to decide for ourselves what we want. and really not consume one thing after the other. real dedication is so valuable. believe in yourselve, your heart, your connection to god. we all have it ourselve. the telephone is in our hands. we do not need someone else to tell us what god (or whoever) said on the phone. all we need is caring people to motivate us to pick up the phone ourselves. and trust that the right information will come to us in the right time. i know at least two people who have certain "powers" or abilitis. it doent matter what kind of. one of them even doesnt teach at all. he has a simple shop and no one knows who he is. he found the powers on a side effect going to path towards love and compassion. none of them searched for power. power searched for them. and they have no strong interest in showing them. in the end what makes them good people is the way they are treating others. with love, respect. that is what it is all about in my humble opinion. if they didnt have those "powers" i would love them anyway. because they really inspired me on my own path. namaste, jan.

Believe in yourselve! Namaste...

sorry folks to bother you. my english is good but i really do not know what "sis" means. does it mean he learned kunlun from his sister? i thought the old master on his website was his kunlun teacher.

this thread has gone to a very interesting direction. the question being answered and discussed here i had in my had for the last weeks. thank you very much for the many deep thinking replies so far. funny the way the universe sometimes answers questions ... love jan.

Hello there, I am seriously thinking to make a training and travelling study in December. I want to deepen my Qi Gong practice and meditations. I am studying Martial Arts and Qi Gong for some years but I have the feeling I need new inspiration and an advanced Qi Gong Master to give me new input/help on my path. I feel a bit stuck lately. Also I do not want to travel to China because I will be travelling alone and I do not speak a word of chinese. I am seeing that there seem to be a lot of good Qi Gong masters in the USA so I am thinking about going there. But in my heart I am open to go anywhere that is not to expensive to travel to from Europe (for example Australia is too far but India would be OK). My aim is to go deeper into Qi Gong and its connection to healing (others and first yourselve ...). The most important thing for me is to "feel" an advanced master and train with him. Someone who can give my willingness to spend a lot of time a day practicing a deeper direction. Someone who can help me to help myselve effecively. I would be glad if you could post me people or places that you would recommend me to go. I have already Master Zhou Ting Jue, Master Dorje and Master Lin in Minnesota in my head. I am open for people you could recommend. Of course I would probably visit just one. I do not want to consume Masters but to experience something in depth. Why I probably do not want to go to Master Lin (Springforest Qi Gong) is that he recommends people to first master the Qi Gong they are practicing before starting something new. Since I love the Qi Gong style I already practice and I do not want to just "give it up" I chose to probably not go there. But he seems like a very warm hearted and excellent teacher. If you know a place that I could go around the world to deepen my understanding of Qi and my taoist sudies I would be very thankful if you would post it here. Maybe even someone knows a taoist monastary or something like that. Thank you very, very much in advance for your help! I cannot post answers very often so it would be the best if you could just describe people or places you have in mind and tell your experiences.

I met this guy accidently on an evening talk. He tells people about their future (like for example "you will get cancer with this and that age etc ...") and then offers to heal the karma for about 600 and more dollars. The healing doesnt take long and your future is happy again. I saw people getting pale of fear hearing what kind of wicked deseases they would get. Fortunately when they pay the money he can save them from their bad karma and future. Once in a while he gives healings for free so (in my opinion) people do not get suspicious. He is clever. Also he uses other methods of selling his books and promoting himself. He has people to say good things about him before he starts with his "show" to build up trust. You know: I do not want to make people bad. Every student will find his master. On the other hand people come with an open heart to this kind of workshops. To work with their fear and manipulate them in that manner is far from being a "grandmaster of qi gong, tai chi, feng shui and i ging" as he calls himself. At least in my opinion. He seemed to have healed some people of bad sicknesses. I do not want to kill their believe. I am happy for them. i even think the book itself is a nice thing. But tell people those kind of very bad things and then even take a lot of money to "help" them is a strange kind of business. Good I do not have to carry the Karma of such actions as he does. It is the worse

I will just share my own experience. For me the lower dantien (the abdominal dan tian) gives me a lot of peace and inner security. It it like an anchor that gives the ship stability. I need a long time sometimes to fill it up. But when it is "filled up" I can feel the chi go to areas in my bodies that have less energy. I like that I can practice my focussing of the lower dantian everywhere I want. I do not know how much further this can go. I experienced very interesting things when I focussed on the dantian for a couple of hours. For example sometimes i practice sitting in a train or waiting somewhere. When I focus for a longer time the dantian gets more and more "alive". Also I feel that the body kind of balances itself without much effort. One time I was in India and had a sparring fight with a Karate master. Altough we were both full of respect it got a little macho like harder (sorry for my bad english). Afterwards my foot hurt very badly and I couldnt hardly walk anymore. Two days later it was still very bad. When I came to the airport I sat down and focussed for about an hour on the lower dantian. I became very tired and fell asleep in my seat in the waiting room. When I walk up the pain of my foot was 80 % gone. A little later it was almost completely gone. I would not say that I am very talented in this. As I said, to feel my lower Dantian I need a long time until it feels warm. But I always had a great benefit from taking the time and working with it. I hope that could inspire you a bit.

How beautiful some things here are said. Really inspired me. Thank you all!

Hi! I am very happy and thankful to have found that forum! So many useful informations I already found. My name is Ian and I am studying Internal and external Martial Arts. I love the Martial Arts and the more I study them the more I find out how few I know. I am happy that this forum seems to be filled with very respectful and sincere people who are willing to share their experiences. I love the idea of helping and inspirering each other. I wish us all love, light and adventure on our path, Ian.

hi! i do not know if it helps you because it is not a direct respond to your thread. there is a translation of "Tranquil Sitting" by Shi Fu Hwang (Author) from Cheney Crow (Translator). kenneth cohen refers to this book in his own book. he describes it as one of the most important books on qi gong and embryonic breathing. so do other qi gong teachers. i ordered it a few days ago. greetings ian