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hmm, I was stirring the pot thinking someone would say no way...

anyway back to the scientific stuff like how do Sages walk through walls, or traverse the entire universe in the blink of an eye?

"as above so below" has always sounded interesting and profound except in the context of: "Privates, I'm knee deep in your ass right now because the 1st Sgt was knee-deep in my ass this morning, and shit rolls down hill!"

yea, just a phase shift in the local frequency along with getting hit by a big RF burst caused by a suddenly induced electromagnetic field from electrons leaking across the dilithium crystals.

I did indirectly but got rerouted.

ok, Seems Scotty and Carter should have met up at some point with all the warp and worm-hole jumps...hopefully they don't run into Khan somewhere...

besides the earth is flat anyway...

no biggy, good thing you don't have to move all the strings here (which are a great many) that quickly morph into astronomy or physics.

did you read the whole thing? no guy, they just fooled you or you fooled yourself... btw. I'm surprised someone messed with moving this op faster than the speed of light to the black hole- oops I mean the rabbit hole since we have so many people here that often enjoy taking forays along the lines of op's subject matter.

reasons why we really need to get the star gates up and working again, Col. Carter where are you? SG-1's science expert and theoretical astrophysicist, Samantha Carter was responsible for deciphering the Stargateaddress system and designing the dialing computer, allowing Earth to use the Stargate without its companion D.H.D.. Brave, devoted and extremely intelligent, she is Earth's leading authority on the Stargate and wormhole theory, as well as a member of the Air Force. Carter graduated at the top of her class from the U.S. Air Force Academy. As a pilot, she logged over 100 hours in enemy air space during the Persian Gulf War. She spent two years at the Pentagon trying to make the Stargate program a reality from about 1994 to 1996, before Dr. Daniel Jackson ever deciphered the Stargate and allowed the gate to be activated.

talk about getting off the op....

the sound deep inside the many is also the sound of the first, and the first is also the last that returns to silence.

see poll

shall we dissect this also? Chandogya Upanishad, Part 8 Chapter I - Brahman in the Heart 1 Om. There is in this city of Brahman an abode, the small lotus of the heart; within it is a small akasa. Now what exists within that small akasa, that is to be sought after, that is what one should desire to understand. 2-3 If they should say to him: "Now, with regard to the abode, the small lotus, in this city of Brahman and the small akasa within it-what is there in it that is to be sought after and what is there that one should desire to understand?" Then he (the teacher) should say: "As far as, verily, this great akasa extends, so far extends the akasa within the heart. Both heaven and earth are contained within it, both fire and air, both sun and moon, both lightning and stars; and whatever belongs to him (i.e. the embodied creature) in this world and whatever does not, all that is contained within it (i.e. the akasa in the heart)." 4 If they (the pupils) should say: "If everything that exists-all beings and all desires-is contained in this city of Brahman, then what is left of it when old age overcomes it or when it perishes?" 5 Then he (the teacher) should say: "With the old age of the body, That (i.e. Brahman, described as the akasa in the heart) does not age; with the death of the body, That does not die. That Brahman and not the body is the real city of Brahman. In It all desires are contained. It is the Self-free from sin, free from old age, free from death, free from grief free from hunger, free from thirst; Its desires come true, Its thoughts come true. Just as, here on earth, people follow as they are commanded by a leader and depend upon whatever objects they desire, be it a country or a piece of land so also those who are ignorant of the Self depend upon other objects and experience the result of their good and evil deeds. 6 "And just as, here on earth, whatever is earned through work perishes, so does the next world, won by virtuous deeds, perish. Those who depart hence without having realized the Self and these true desires-for them there is no freedom in all the worlds. But those who depart hence after having realized the Self and these true desires-for them there is freedom in all the worlds....

thought this got deleted earlier...if the mods want to run one fine by me.

Indications are that Mr. G. lost it, that is if he ever had it besides fragments from here and there along with astral level manipulations. (for instance killing yaks with his mind and blowing peoples minds for the power trip of it) On the other hand I do appreciate Mr. O's work a lot.

is the anti-christ statue named trump also in the lawsuit?

I'd also add or say that there is no disconnect of the Self to all the tattva's or categories....(depending on how they are counted by various schools)

we may be working from different systems with different meanings for terms like self, Self, etc. btw. I'm not familiar with the term Great Attractor.

(along these lines) MANDUKYA UPANISHAD English version by Sanderson Beck AUM. This imperishable word is the universe. It is explained as the past, the present, the future; everything is the word AUM. Also whatever transcends threefold time is AUM. All here is God; this soul is God. This same soul is fourfold. The waking state outwardly conscious, having seven limbs and nineteen doors, enjoying gross objects common to all, is the first. The dreaming state inwardly conscious, having seven limbs and nineteen doors, enjoying subtle objects that are bright, is the second. When one sleeps without yearning for any desires, seeing no dreams, that is deep sleep. The deep-sleep state unified in wisdom gathered, consisting of bliss, enjoying bliss, whose door is conscious wisdom, is the third. This is the Lord of all; this is the omniscient; this is the inner controller; this is the universal womb, for this is the origin and end of beings. Not inwardly wise nor outwardly wise nor both ways wise nor gathered wisdom, nor wise nor unwise, unseen, incommunicable, intangible, featureless, unthinkable, indefinable, whose essence is the security of being one with the soul, the end of evolution, peaceful, good, non-dual--- this they deem the fourth. It is the soul; it should be discerned. This is the soul in regard to the word AUM and its parts. The parts are the letters, and the letters are its parts: A U M. The waking state common to all is the letter A, the first part, from "attaining" or from being first. Whoever knows this attains all desires and becomes first. The sleeping state, the bright, is the letter U, the second part, from "uprising" or from being in between. Whoever knows this rises up in knowledge and is balanced; no one ignorant of God is born in that family. The deep-sleep state, the wise, is the letter M, the third part, from "measure" or from being the end. Whoever knows this measures everything and reaches the end. The fourth is without a letter, the incommunicable, the end of evolution, good, non-dual. Thus AUM is the soul. Whoever knows this enters by one's soul into the soul; this one knows this. Copyright 1996, 2002 by Sanderson Beck

as for effort...if a hand does not reach out, what helping hand can take it?

Neti neti, I'm not sure of parts your word usage and meaning, anyway I'd try to interpret (which may not be what you meant) by saying that "experience" is recorded in memory yet memory is unable to circumscribe the Self? Which means that the Self does not know Itself through memory but through Itself, thus It follows that that Self can not be found in memory, but is a constant regardless of an apparent or relative waker, dreamer or sleeper somewhere in memory.

indeed, made me think about talking about the weather at various critical moments

Agreed that that is a pretty strong picture. And surely most will agree that there is a two way street so to speak going on, which is indicated to some by Solomon's six pointed star. But I also differ on the idea that an empirical human self becomes the spiritual or higher self in the process implied...being that I see the human self as becoming a refined vehicle or matrix for an already existent spiritual self to manifest through.