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Well such material has a place but its also often projecting (and to whatever degree distracting) way, way out there about advanced steps when its not really needed until its needed. Do you remember karate kid - "wipe on wipe off"?

Chegg, Until there is a need to know there is no need to know, besides really knowing carries a heavy price which is a lot more than we often know the cost will be!

"...but anyone can gain muscles no matter their mental state..." By Charles but it does matter or make a difference since "what is against Tao will soon cease to be* " *TTC 30

There are also many demons out there who have various powers, thus powers of the mind are not the most important or sure measure of fake or true spirituality.

"Do I hear a little ghost-ship would do battle with my global oceanic wonder? My laughter is so very terrible, cheri— it looks like an armada of puffy indifferent clouds, which are vastly outnumbered by whitecaps lapping above the abyss …on to the vaulted horizon. But where are you, hmmmmmm?" By Deci Your squawking makes your hawking obvious... grow up.

I see the saying of "no time" as having some possible problems... not unlike the problems I see with the Buddhist saying of "no-self". thus one might ask is there ever an eternal moment that exists without Mystery?

I'm far more impressed with his kind demeanor than with all his energy abilities put together which are a mistake to make a public display of.

A true and false saying: "you are what you think" True per the thinking mind, or the mental realm. False per Spritual reality, which is not 'mind' or of the mental realm. Do you have other true and false sayings to share?

you could give the universal mind the benefit of the doubt until you converse with it...

You have a long standing pattern where it matters not what anyone says, including even well practiced and studied Buddhists - which is why I would assume that none of them are wasting any more time along these lines in trying to converse with you.

I would think that whole paragraph would make common sense to most any Buddhist from any school...(just in case is there anyone else here that wants to refute that or agree with it?) Besides and remember it is also from a link that you gave as an authority or source.

Since you like quotes so much this is an excerpt from the one you gave a link for: Expedient means Main article: Upaya "Expedient means (Skt. upāya) is found in the Lotus Sutra, one of the earliest dated Mahāyāna sūtras, and is accepted in all Mahāyāna schools of thought. It is any effective method that aids awakening. It does not necessarily mean that some particular method is "untrue" but is simply any means or stratagem that is conducive to spiritual growth and leads beings to awakening and nirvana. Expedient means could thus be certain motivational words for a particular listener or even the noble eightfold path itself. Basic Buddhism (what Mahāyāna would term śravakayāna or pratyekabuddhayāna) is an expedient method for helping people begin the noble Buddhist path and advance quite far. But the path is not wholly traversed, according to some Mahāyāna schools, until the practitioner has striven for and attained Buddhahood for the liberation of all other sentient beings from suffering."

"'Keep in mind' that our mind is the universal mind and not the space in our brain responsible for the action I have just described. We do not 'own' the mind, nor does the mind own us" by 4bsolute I would put that differently, for instance: the "universal mind" includes apparent individual minds, yet even universal mind is still mind stuff, thus not the mystery to said mind that Spirit is.

Found while browsing the internet: This is handy way to instantly blank your screen like we could in the old days with dos utilities, and it already exists within Win 7 if you set it up. " There's a really easy and simple way to do this: Create a new shortcut on your desktop. Browse to scrnsave.scr in C:\Windows\System32, click OK, click Next, name the shortcut as you wish, click OK. Now you have a shortcut to run Blank Screen screensaver on your desktop. Double click it to instantly blank the screen, move mouse or press a key to return to desktop. Screen stays blanked as long as nothing happens, and it does not disable your normal screen saver. You can use the same method to launch any screensaver (.scr) file. by Kari" note: you have to go pretty far into the C:\windows\system32 folder to find the file.

You are welcome Zhe.

Sadly and strangely I don't think you get "it" very well...

Since it seems that no one is getting through to you (about the related principals of the 8 FP) one could take it that what several Buddhists are simply pointing out is like rocket science in your case.

"...Time is the measure of motion. If we represent time by a line, then the only line which will satisfy all the demands of time will be a spiral. A spiral is a " three dimensional line ", so to speak, that is, a line which requires three coordinates for its construction and designation. The three-dimensionality of time is completely analogous to the three dimensionality of space. We do not measure space by cubes; we measure it linearly in different directions, and we do exactly the same with time, although in time we can measure only two coordinates out of three, namely the duration and the velocity; the direction of time for us is not a quantity but an absolute condition. Another difference is that in regard to space we realize that we are dealing with a three-dimensional continuum, whereas in regard to time we do not realize it. But, as has been said already, if we attempt to unite the three coordinates of time into one whole, we shall obtain a spiral. This explains at once why the " fourth coordinate " is insufficient to describe time. Although it is admitted to be a curved line, its curvature remains undefined. Only three coordinates, or the " three-dimensional line ", that is, the spiral, give an adequate description of time. The three-dimensionality of time explains many phenomena which have hitherto remained incomprehensible, and makes unnecessary most of the elaborate hypotheses and suppositions which have been indispensable in the attempts to squeeze the universe into the boundaries of a three or even four-dimensional continuum. This also explains the failure of relativism to give a comprehensible form to its explanations. Excessive complexity in any construction is always the result of something having been omitted or wrongly taken at the outset. The cause of the complexity in this case lies in the above-mentioned impossibility of squeezing the universe into the boundaries of a three-dimensional or four-dimensional continuum. If we try to regard three-dimensional space as two-dimensional and to explain all physical phenomena as occurring on a surface, several further " principles of relativity " will be required. The three dimensions of time can be regarded as the continuation of the dimensions of space, i.e. as the " fourth ", the " fifth " and the " sixth" dimensions of space. A " six-dimensional" space is undoubtedly a " Euclidean continuum ", but of properties and forms totally incomprehensible to us. The six-dimensional form of a body is inconceivable for us, and if we were able to apprehend it with our senses we should undoubtedly see and feel it as three-dimensional. Three-dimensionality is a function of our senses. Time is the boundary of our senses. Six-dimensional space is reality, the world as it is. This reality we perceive only through the slit of our senses, touch and vision, and define as three-dimensional space, ascribing to it Euclidean properties. Every six-dimensional body becomes for us a three-dimensional body existing in time, and the properties of the fifth and the sixth dimensions remain for us imperceptible. Six dimensions constitute a " period ", beyond which there can be nothing except the repetition of the same period on a different scale. The period of dimensions is limited at one end by the point, and at the other end by infinity of space multiplied by infinity of time, which in ancient symbolism was represented by two intersecting triangles, or a six-pointed star...." From: "A New Model of the Universe" around page 433 in the pdf form

Alwayson, There is a certain amount of common sense concerning Buddhism and Buddhist doctrines regardless of all the profound books you read and people you quote. (and like to argue about) I'd say that many of the Buddhist principles are not rocket science even to those of us who are not Buddhists. (of this or that school)

Anyway back to the "burning" type of quote from OP, it sounded to me like he was coming from a mis-view of Buddhist teachings (which I'm not qualified to go into except to point to general and publically available doctrine) thus I'll leave off my foray here and defer to the practicing and well rounded Buddhists to address his quote directly (if you will?) besides addressing it only through some debate or comparisons in doctrine...

This doesn't exactly fit but..."Arizona has dry heat, its not bad". (besides you can fry your eggs on the sidewalk, unless you're a vegan then its beans)

Some interesting material Chegg, but why remove references?

I believe there is a tie in with the ancient swastika symbol, which by the way can have either a right or left hand turning depiction just as spirals can have a left or right hand turning depiction. (but I'm very rusty on symbol studies)

"It is no different." agreed, and or in the sense that there is no way that it could be.

"Now" and the "One" includes the apparent past and the apparent future, or all time and all space. (or shall we say the "whole works"?)