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windows ten likes to delete text on its own... anyway there is the saying, "resist not evil" which has lots of inner meaning but should not be given without certain cautions or just idealistically.

okay so I made a mistake, not so okay when I repeat the same mistake, or with obvious variations of it 10-20 times in the sense of thinking dharma can be put aside as if karma wasn't backing it up...

Mankind's reason and logic alone or without Spirit can deliver one into forms of hell such as the "Vanity of vanities"...

...yet we don't want a dichotomy do we? I'd say the matrix (or manifest from A-Z) of or for "God" are important as functional vessels for "God", thus not to be dismissed as just illusions... for where is there illusion in Shakti connected to God unless in the eyes of the beholder?

be the programmer not the program...for the mind is a lot like a computer although much more complex

Atman, for all else is apparent (meaning a changeable appearance) and relative.

Please get off it TI, you could go whole hog Buddhist and enjoy that particular raft, thus quit quoting or trying to understand, interpret, correlate or compare Vedic related masters and their spiritual teachings or their orders to where and how you think they fall short when it comes to your present hodge-podge.

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Not bad MH, and an important point!

I thought there might be an esoteric analogy in there (the original cut & paste) somewhere but maybe not...hehe ...that is unless someone wants to create one?

Ok and good for you ! We all need some "Eureka" type inspiration's considering there are also concerns and karmas of daily life to deal with which can wear us down at times. (from a human stand point) thanks for posting, see you around, Bob

sooner or later (so to speak) and always at the turning of the cosmic cycle...

Juliank, As you probably know Karma yoga is always good as part of what we do as regular guys or gals and as part of a spiritual foundation.... one may blast off or bliss out (so to speak) with certain forms of yoga and mantra but with out a guru's guidance such a blast may be premature and uncontrolled. (as implied by some posters here) I'd say Pure devotion of spiritual emotion is the most powerful fuel but needs some balance with hard won wisdom, knowledge and mature being-ness, that various spiritual orders, schools and related teachers help with!

because it is not in or of the mind...

if the potential for Jesus to fail was not present then his great spiritual tests were fake, which btw I don't think they were.

all desires are really veils upon the one truest desire of Self-realization/freedom

MH, Are you going to add a bunch of macho tattoos to go with the bald? (hehehe)

It's said most spiritual progress can be made during times like these of great strife and conflict, that may be true but I'm getting kind of tired after learning how to "duck and cover" in the late 50's (during grade school) for potential atomic warfare, and after that everything else from A-Z comig down the pike... how about you? a moments peace to you all amidst it all

something about many 'eastern' renunciates) : many do not live in a 'western' town or city as a householder (obviously) with a spouse and children to support, a job to work 60 hrs. a week, etc.. along with all the other related responsibilities of same! They are a renunciate living a simple life in a simple place with other renunciates and have major support from other people to do so. Thus us western householders who live light years away from being renunciates can not really adopt all of such teachings or live as they do since we have our householder dharma to fulfill... (mentioned since we so often mention the teachings of renunciates)

is a mis-perception and or mis-conception in my book, being that ultimately there is only the total reality of all things and no-thing per a full and complete perception

I don't know about that but at some point ego dies, or the energy that was passing through it or was being used is finally cut off .

neutrinos and such pass through the earth and we don't even know it (except by very high tech) yet no damage is done like you are speaking of... (Brian would know a whole lot more along these lines - hehe)

pretty tough to keep an eye on our own ego's without expert help that can see through them... in the meantime I'd say ego should act like a noble sergeant as best it can and try to keep all the various unhealthy parts of itself in order, for a relatively healthy and functional ego in the world has its place

a transmutation MH which I'd say is not that far off from how the physical can change frequency and pass through objects in a so called non-normal way...btw non-physical frequencies (depending on one's definition) are effecting the physical all the time in subtle ways, for instance on the common level of x-rays or gamma rays if we want to up the power

Orion, for a Buddhist sounding statement I'd say that was not Right speech, as in acting like a sarcastic A-hole. Remember there is the Buddha's teaching on the subject, as in "Wonder of Wonders"