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speaking of masters, some that are renunciates, like monks, nuns, hermits, etc. besides them not being of the world many of them are just barely in it per their practices. Yet the lives of householders and various tattva's are often labeled as illusion, illusion that they are practicing escaping from even though same supports them... comments?

Indeed, and that which is revealed needs no qualifications, additions or subtractions for it is the same.

the power of Grace is not a power controlled by or forcible by mind or mental abilities.

mind does not move or decide for the power of Grace, and the TTC quote is not in context with that.

for Grace yoga to work it makes the choice...

hey Jeff, why so many assumptions? The story could have multiple interpretations or levels of meaning since limited information is given in it.

White Bird by beautiful day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScFBqyAN8Bw

nice story Dwai, btw. master A is able to benefit any being regardless of their "qualifications".

"the ego is very important... until one no longer needs it." and which one is that?

Still waters, if that is the case then why are you naming names positions and certain schools as authorities? (then throwing some of them or the idea of them out with the bathwater - but also going with, "it was important to stay within the consistent context of Pantanjali."?

try that word (not the tone as was noted) with your Grandmother, Mum, Aunt, wife or daughter and see how well it goes over, then get back with us if they haven't knocked your block off.

ok man, I think anyone who may have had trouble with that word and not your tone appreciate it...

realized MH has not posted in like 3 weeks, are you ok out there?

umm, as guys here we could probably call each other dickheads or worse and it would not be that big a deal for most guys, on the other hand I'd suggest you edit out the 'c' word from your post which is probably a big deal for many folks, "neo" whatever or not.

directed at an apparent us

you can say what 'x' is (spiritually) only for yourself, thus no one else without probably tripping them and yourself up. Have you studied the Tao Teh Ching? It addresses some of the issues you are apparently struggling with. (in what could also be called universal dharmic ways)

it's not assuming to help other people with their Dharma that I meant, it's one's own dharma's in relation to universal dharma's - if we do that right then all this self-torment about what to do or not to do shakes out the way it should via those laws. What you are posting sounds very contradictory in part, I suggest dropping all thoughts of glory or anxiety in helping people, for the spirit does that as needed and correctly, not us, although at times through us. With that being what it is, and being said, don't start assuming things about all the dubious new age channeling talk for then you might start walking around saying to yourself people are being awakened because your light body is channeling - which is just more of missing the point and an another level of ego trap.

sounds like lots of big questions and concepts, in the meantime Dharma's well done will sort all things (karma's) out, how else could one find some peace?

since there is only one of us all the talk of multiple and great beings is still related to various realms, with the 3rd eye having vision of those various beings and realms... granted the heaven realm is great but at the end of day (and of realms) it is not enough, for only the Self is.

if Venus attracts Mars to much we are going to get hit with a lot of asteroids

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everything is perfect according to karma, but less karma makes for an improvement.

I cut part of a tree down in my backyard about a month ago, I tied one end of a rope onto a big limb and the other end to my neighbors 3/4 ton truck parked at about triple the distance that the limb could possibly fall, he was was supposed to keep tension on the rope by gradually backing up his truck as I then cut into the limb from up on a ladder...well he kind of lost his attention or something and didn't keep much tension on the rope to help direct the limbs fall away from my shed as I was cutting. I had calculated the worse case scenario for a poor limb fall which then took place, resulting in a minor side swipe to my shed which incurred no damage...anyway even the best and safest laid plans are only as good as the actors involved. (professional or rookie, which reminds me of a story about a runaway cement truck headed towards a neighbors house but I'll save that for another day)