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meaning many come to this site and read about (or give out) a certain percentage of "dog and pony show" tricks or methods for getting this or that super-duper experience or power... which imo is ass backwards to what true spiritual methods are really about. I'd say "God", Tao, or whatever term one might insert doesn't give a damm about our pursuit of powers or tricks, what Spirit cares about is what (motive) is in our hearts.

the fun or apparently fun context isn't the drift I meant - obviously

right, ida and pingala flow

is that a Buddhist throwing the Buddha out with the bath water? "it's a strange strange world we live in master jack"

if that is the case then you won't know if the historic Buddha was a pretender or not until the game is over, in the meantime you are guessing based on your bias.

that may be so but harping is not a science or an art except in twisted form.... and if the historic Buddha was really a Buddha then he would have had to give up any forms of forced of harping, aka "right speech". btw is love another one of those "aggregates" or is it eternal like "God", btw #2 if no Goddess then no Buddha.

and there is that one that says, "he who digs a ditch shall fall into it" (or something close to that)

harping on delusions = another form of delusions non-dualism is so tough to really attain, although fairly easy as just another intellectual concept

a lot of Hawaii is "paradise lost" (a super bummer) but there is still a lot to appreciate there, btw the cost of living there is very high unless you are have a support and barter system to some degree with the locals,

and in Hawaii (surrounded on all sides by ocean) it would wise to be on the good side of the shark god

in various forms of evolution or change some of the thoughts and or conditions are like one door opening and another closing, thus one can not or seldom can go all the way back to a state that was before... and if at some point an unfortunate door opens one may fall to a state lower than a (simpler) before. (with such a law also applying across the spectrum of human affairs)

a no man's land is not enlightenment

I'd say for awhile...

ego no matter how powerful or clever can not free itself from itself, although in one way or another it reaches the point where it knows that of itself is not enough to truly satisfy or give meaning beyond doubts - like when Solomon spoke of the, "Vanity of vanities", thus a threshold is reached and that which was veiled by ego reaches out for help which is answered by help reaching through the veil to it.

you can reach a threshold (or work) but you cant' pass it without it helping you do so (or grace)

try not to live next to an airport runway, or get a switch implanted in your brain to connect and disconnect the nerves from your ears... Om

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"Behold, I make all things new" Jesus

when a person is sinking anything that floats is a possible help, us beggars can't be to picky

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wise and time tested dharma or universal laws point to us helping each other in various ways (without a lot of trappings attached although some form of workable identity is our vehicle to do so) Thus if we are helping and relating to people at least to a certain and healthy degree then we are following an important part of dharma instead of falling for the, "I'm suffering and alone" nihilistic mind-set absorbed in it's own anti-dharmic losses. It's undeniable that we are all in a big boat together (along with personal boats to) kept afloat through ongoing work and purpose - where there is not much time or energy for being stuck in sinking doubts, non-motivation, depression, or an "every dog for himself rat race" that ends in futility, etc. if all our boats, which are worth living for and fighting for through correct dharma's are to be sailed to inner and outer freedom and purpose based on the truth of Spirit, Tao or similar meaning terms. Besides the platitudes of philosophy and for instance - lots of kids need "us" just as we needed us when we were kids...thus there is unlimited opportunity just in the realm of helping kids in various ways. So we do something...

Mr. G. via Mr. O. had quite a bit to say about the moon, and it was not romantic or happy camper stuff.

yea, and we have the Tao and The One duality yet they are connected

MH, I imagine the 7 hells (as a nice round number) are heaven-like to the demons that dominate there, so there is the difference you are asking about...which is opposite to the 7 upper "chakras" or heaven-like realms in comparison that so many here hammer on.