ShaktiMama

A thought came to my mind about this thread. All the warnings but I have yet to meet someone in a cultivation class who has the internal development or the discipline to develop psychic powers that will make them dangerous to people. The worst I have seen happen is they either try to manipulate women sexually to get laid or they end up working on a psychic line or they start teaching seminars. . Having someone develop powers on that level and go all Darth Vader on someone's butt won't be found on this forum although they do exist out in the real world. So I would suggest just as you would want to improve your ability to lift greater weights or to be a better speaker just practice. Or you could just take KAP and it will evolve naturally. Hey, you are sharing real secrets here: "* I might add that for those who are more theurgically inclined, you can begin every practice session with a short mental dedication to Franz Bardon, thanking him for sharing his knowledge with people like us and asking him nicely to help guide you in the practice you are about to begin. Then thank him again afterwards when you are finished." Well said: "I can assure you that there is no lack of methods out there and publically available. It is just that the real and usefultraining methods are downright boring and make absolutely no promises about achieving anything special. Being disease-free and having nice and flexible joints doesn't sound as sexy as being able to move stuff with your mind; it's just different packaging, that's all! " Dress it up in a Darth Maul robe and have an appropriately black and darkly somber website and you will have a lot of acolytes wearing guyliner beating down your door to learn.

He is the real deal. I studied with two of his students and one of them, Sifu Dr. Bernard Shannon, is the head of the International Institute of Medical Qigong that Jerry started. I completed his first year medical qigong program which was fairly rigorous and his medical qigong textbooks that he wrote are what we used. I am also friends with one of his other students, Dr. Gideon Enz, who does the major editing for Jerry's books. Gideon is also a Shaivite yogi so we have a special kundalini bond. I have never met Jerry. He does have some unpleasant personality quirks I have heard but that doesn't diminish the tremendous amount of understanding and knowledge he has researched and placed in the public's hands. Anyone who doubts the existence of chi just needs to get volume 1 of Jerry's medical qigong textbook series and the biblio alone will keep you reading for hours. Gideon's site: http://www.gideonenz.com/ Jerry's school now run by Bernard http://www.medicalqigong.org/

Let me give you an easy exercise to play with your friends. It will work better if you have some rudimentary chi sensing ability. It works with the heart chakra which is easier for people to start with. Take two people and stand them about ten feet from and facing each other. Have one person close their eyes. The other person thinks warm, loving thoughts and images and sees them flowing out of their chest towards the person with their eyes closed. If and when the other person feels something different...they are to walk towards you. When they don't, they should stop. Stop thinking warm loving thoughts or cross your arm over your chest to symbolically shield your heart. They should stop or hesitate for a bit. Notice the expression on their faces and their subtle body movements during these exercises. They may deny that they are experiencing anything but their body language will show otherwise. So open up your heart area again and see if the start walking towards you. I can get students to follow me all over the room with their eyes closed even if they are more than 20 feet away. It is nice to play with someone who has really well developed sensing abilities so they can give good feedback and so you don't discredit your feelings or think you are crazy. good luck

just takes time. here's a vid of Santi pushing and pulling people with chi which is some of the stuff we did and taught in London. I have also seen Santi toss people around the room and couple of his students toss a person quite a few feet without touching them. I know how they do it. Santi taught me. I just have to practice now. We also teach that in KAP 3. All the stuff is very simple to learn. The good stuff is. You just have to practice.

These are normal processes that arise in kundalini development. Beginners begin to show right away when they start to practice but it takes awhile to develop some mastery. In the upper levels of shen gong it will also develop into skillful mastery. Some have disagreed with me but these are normal human talents which have been conditioned or unlearned out of us to some degree. Some are born with these abilities and are even able to retain into adulthood. It is interesting to talk to these people because for them it is so normal to them they are surprised to find out that not everyone can do this. My abilities tend to be most evident with those I am most intimate whether it be lovers, friends, or close students. Calling them psychic powers is like calling the ability to tie your shoe or whistle a psychic power. It's just something that takes practice or you can start working on opening your kundalini and they will become more self evident as all physical abilities including strength, intellect, etc become more enhanced with kundalini development. i have no interest in developing them further. What I have is enough for me. A small example. When I was teaching KAP with Santi last week in London I had gone back to my hotel room and fallen deep asleep. Santi and I were to leave at 0900 in the am to catch the bus to go to downtown London to teach on Sunday. As I was laying in bed starting to awaken, Santi's face was right in my face smiling at me. Then the phone rang immediately when I was looking at his face and it was Santi saying, "Come on wake up! It's 9 o'clock! I am in the lobby." I told him what had just happened. He laughed but he said he wasn't trying to do that but it did happen. oh and we were 15 minutes late getting to the seminar which is about how long it took me to get dressed and get down to the lobby. Both Santi and I can move people with our mind and our chi. Does that count? And in that weekend we were able to teach a few others the rudimentaries to do the same thing. This is awesome, excellent advice: - meditation and focusing intent - maintaining a healthy energy flow in the body - getting the nervous system and muscles to learn to relax - basic physical practices such as stretching or yoga asanas coupled with breathing excercises to teach you to feel your body - training you to recognize and control your emotions and natural impulses We teach this in KAP but you can pick this up in any good system.

A woman is not a sperm/chi/jing/shen or orgasm receptacle passively waiting to be roped in beyond her control in some porn fantasy. Yes, there are women who might want to do that with you but then again the spasm and spurt philosophy of relationships (whether based on body fluids or energy) will never be deeply satisfying or rewarding for most. I suggest you find an emotional mature and thoughtfully aware male to mentor you in how to relate to women. You also need to learn more about energetic anatomy. Looking for help on an internet forum...well, you wont get anything worthwhile. We attract people into our lives based on our own deep subconscious programs. If you think you are a loser you will attract losers. If you know you are a god you will attract goddesses. Being a nice and good hearted person is one of the most potent aphrodisiacs out there. Have the qualities of the heart that you wish to find in others and they will find you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkqfa-kaRFM

I don't know if people be circuitous and obtuse because they think it is like "guru talk" and gives the impression of being a spiritual, lofty thinker or it is just sloppy thinking of the mask but I see a lot of it here on da bums. one of my mentors, a hard ass Navy captain, told me, "if ya can't explain it to a 3 year old, don't bother." yes...the grass is always greener...if not then there would be no spiritual tourism....the market would collapse....ssssshhhh...please don't tell anyone for the dilettante is what keeps the guru business alive.

Sometimes I wonder, Kameel. Do people really think they have to dissect or search for hidden meaning in our words? "You say the grass is green, Susan, but really is that what you truly meant for you lost me on that last little bit of description which makes me doubt you in what you just said. I say you should examine your motivations for your observations of green grass for they may be some secret meaning or insight into your psyche of which you may not be truly aware. This reveals to me you are lacking in development or even have a character deficit of which I should warn you and others about but that is OK that you do for it is your own truth but i don't think it is true enough and there is nothing wrong with that for we all have our own truths although some truths are better than other truths and I will be helpful and point this out to you so you can fix your thinking so you don't miss the mark of your own point you were making and be correct in your version of your truth." (Short version of exchange.) Subjective truth is so sticky, is it not? So then I just speak from my own experiences. Is it true? Who knows but it is what happened to me. of course, I could be all wrong about all of this. People just need to experience it for themselves and not depend on me for their expectations of what kundalini is or does. Stop talking about it and just do it.

You take great liberties in interpreting the meaning of my words other than truly: Seeing the entire universe which dwells in each individual? How could that transform relationships on this planet if many saw each other in this way? I am describing a way of seeing through eyes transformed by love not a way to change people into someone just like myself or to say or think their present form is less desirable. Unless I misunderstand that is what you are trying to say that you think I am saying. Language is so imprecise here. Kundalini sharpens one's capacity of self awareness and their place in the cosmos and with others in different ways. One hears what one formerly saw. One sees what one formerly touched. ******** There is some kiss we want with our whole lives, the touch of Spirit on the body. Seawater begs the pearl to break its shell. And the lily, how passionately it needs some wild Darling! At night, I open the window and ask the moon to come and press its face into mine. Breathe into me. Close the language-door, and open the love-window. The moon won't use the door, only the window. sufi mystic - jelaluddin rumi - 13th century to repeat: To me, I can quiet myself and drop the veil between myself and All That Is and experience nothing but scintillating ecstatic visions of clear, blinding light. Then it's chop wood, carry water. Once one knows who one is in relation to All That Is, death is not feared and all beings are to be honored and loved. Love Self, Honor Self. If I misundersand your interpretation of my words, i look for clarity.

I only share what it so for me. For many years what I see is not the way other people see themselves. They have difficulty seeing the perfection that is so apparent to me when I look into their eyes. When I touch people with my hands I see beautiful and intricate designs of light. Seeing the entire universe which dwells in each individual? How could that transform relationships on this planet if many saw each other in this way? namaste

Indeed...kundalini rising is not just for masters, nor does it ever end. Like the peeling of an onion it continues over the years. I hope it never ends. Always new things to explore and discover about myself and the Universe I live in. I think enlightenment is over rated, but that is my opinion. To me, I can quiet myself and drop the veil between myself and All That Is and experience nothing but scintillating ecstatic visions of clear, blinding light. Then it's chop wood, carry water. Once one knows who one is in relation to All That Is, death is not feared and all beings are to be honored and loved. Love Self, Honor Self. What is important to me is that Kundalini increases my capacity to be of service to this planet and to those that live on it in many different ways. Santi and I are nothing. It is our openness to Source, to be an open vessel or conduit, the bone flute in which the energy of Source flows which matters to us. If people could only look through our eyes and see what we see..how extraordinarily beautiful all beings in this Universe are they would fall to their knees and weep in the joy of the discovery of it.

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Da Bums are going to do whatever they want. I am not their babysitter and they can take responsibility for their own actions. You cant control what people will do with information. If they want to be stupid or wise about it that is their decision not mine to make for them. chemotherapy kills cancers too and can kill the patient also. Makes them sick for days and they go bald. It is a horrible way to get better. Chemotherapy and radiation does not claim to cure cancer either. No one can truly say definatively that it does but traditional cancer therapy is a billion dollar business. $10k for one shot? Yes...and more. No doctor will claim they can cure or heal anyone. They will say they don't really know for sure. I know because I have sat in the room with a patient while the doctor explains treatment to them. One doesn't have to believe claims. One can go and investigate claims for themselves. I know weight loss can cure diabetes. It happens over and over with diabetics who loose significant portions of weight. But you will never see a medical professional claim that because there will always be some anomaly that will prevent this from being proven across the board. If it doesnt happen then there is a lawsuit. For a few it doesn't cure diabetes. This just means we don't know everyting that there is to know about something. How could we? No one has all the answers but that doesn't mean we should not investigate and try. The body only stores a natural current that we are born with. Enough to power the heart. The rest comes from an internal cultivation practice. Most people don't know how to do that. Even healers have a hard time generating that. How many healers can touch you with their fingers and it feels like they are pushing red hot rods of steel through your body? I have only met a couple in my lifetime. Pak is one of them. You don't develop that ability overnight. If electricity is bad for the body why then cultivate to store it? Can energy be bad for the organs and be something that healers naturally have? Yes there are studies about exercise but how many people exercise on their own? How many pay for someone to exercise them? Overall, one example does not erase the enormous profit motive there is in medicine to create problems and treatments for the public. Do we really need medicine for shyness? No, there are studies out there. Just got to look for the research.

you a cute, funny guy...it was a pleasure to meet you... we loved teasing you! those "hail mary" looks are fun to see... or the WTF looks as you call them. i want you to know that what you saw is not difficult to do and Santi and I are more than happy to teach what we know. Too bad we didn't have more time because we could teach for a month non stop and still not give you all that we want. didnt you just love when santi moved someone off center and tossed him to the ground by just using his mind? dont have to be a martial artist to do that as I was demonstrating it to others too. i love the fact that a roomful of strangers become brothers and sisters to each other very quickly. there were lifetime friendships made in that room. I have some great friends in that room who were once first my students. I look forward to having more great friends come out of that class.

it may only be worthless as a study which does not destory the efficacy of the treatment. It historically takes the FDA sometimes 25 years to approve some processes unless there is money available to push it through. It takes a while f or science to catch up. People can die in the meantime. Yes, there are charlatans and frauds who will abuse this fear but it doesn't mean that alternative processes should not be used. It's about being an educated consumer. People/health professionals still believe cholesterol is bad and dont want you to eat eggs and meat. Be empowered and check things out. Also caveat emptor. I remember 25 years ago when it was thought that high dosages of vitamins were dangerous things that only health freaks did. So many people die in hospitals under medical care. We medical professionals know this and say among ourselves, "we got to get this guy out of the hospital before we kill him." Studies prove it and yet we still admit and treat people there. Nobel prizes are often politically and economically motivated. What motivation is there to study a healing treatment that costs pennies? What motivation is there to study something that will destroy the medical economy and all the industry associated with it if it is proven to work? There is a place for traditional allopathic medical care and holistic alternative care. The process is about integrating them to get the best of both.

shaman techniques are always a bit extreme and can be gross. But I have seen extreme brutality first hand in modern medicine as a nurse. This seems tame. first time i have seen a shaman utilize technology like this for healing. If you live in the UK, Santi could probably arrange an intro where you could see Pak and discuss. He is contantly healing people from morning to night and travels all over. This is not the only thing he does. There are a full spectrum of healing processes besides this one that are part of the session. 25 quid for a couple of hours with him is so reasonable. Speaking of gross, Santi and I were working on removing cancer placed by a curse this past weekend. As we worked, our patient began to start to throw up (dry) and belch. This is typical in an excorcism but it is gross. He eventually did throw up when he got home. He looked so much better when he got off our table. Not finished with the process with him for we still have more work to be doing but, god willing, he will be freed.

check the link i posted. there may be others to google.

Santi is the expert on this with more experience and so he may contribute. This using current out of the wall is an extreme version of alternative healing modality called zapping which uses a zapper. There we are talking about 12-18 volts from a commercial zapper. http://www.copperhealth.com/zapper.htm Pak is a powerful Indonesian Shaman Healer who treated us. He told Santi and I on this visit that the more current one can handle running through their body the less spiritual blocks or resistance is present in the body. Also zapping with current destroys pathologies like cancer in the body. http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lzapper.htm Spiritual uses are for opening up the chakras and cleaning out the energy channels. I feel empty but energized after a treatment. Like someone has swept my energy body clean. I can tell you once you get over the "shock" factor of feeling the initial shock of the current as it enters the body it is not that unpleasant unless you have illness or blocks in your body then Pak will lower the current. It can be quite painful otherwise. I have felt the painful parts when he uses metal instruments to deliver a direct focused current. It is like being touched with a burning match. And yes...it feels and sounds like a buzzing shock. It hums inside the body. When the current runs through the hand the hand contracts into a spasm. You can see the muscles of the arm bunch up under the current. When he touched my neck on the right my head would bend to the right and vice versa. It feels like getting a treatment at the chiropractor where they use much lower currents on muscles. Also it feels similiar to having current applied to acupuncture needles but of much lesser intensity. Personally, when I have those kind of appointments I have the practitioner dial the settings way up because I like the way it feels. With Pak, I am about at the limit of what I can tolerate which is quite a bit. When Pak places his finger tips on my temples the current that runs between his fingertips makes me see light flashes behind closed eyes. It's hard to keep the eyes open when the current is running. Do not do this by yourself on your own without proper training. You will f**k yourself up big time. A certain level of mastery is required to handle and treat people with this kind of current. This is not a do it yourself project. I would never do this on my own by myself. You could kill yourself and others.

Any internal cultivation practice means keep your tongue up to connect the governor and conception vessel. Otherwise you can develop chi head or chi sickness. Place the tongue tip behind the teeth where the gums meet on the upper palate. Sometimes the energy will hit the jade pillow with a hammering blow so good to keep it from collecting in the head. When my energy is running strong, like right now because lately I have been teaching heavily, doing much healing work and giving transmissions, the end point for the conception vessel will start bubbling my saliva in the floor of my mouth. The tongue will get an electrical current in it, feels like touching your tongue to the end of the battery, and my upper palate will "zing" with energy. It feels like I have an ultrasonic toothbrush vibrating against my oral tissues and teeth. If I don't keep my tongue up I will start to space out or "Shen out". Then a headache or some muscle cramping may start. Keeping the tongue up will connect the two points and keep the energy circulating. Some practitioners have been actually known to get bald spots from the heat of the energy if it is not circulated. It can also misalign your cervical vertabrae. Back up of energy will feel like tension on either side of the pillow. Energy can't move through tension. To force it to do so causes problems. So acupunture and massage are also good. I have no SFQ experience but I am a KAP instructor (which is a process of developing the Greater Kan and Li of Nei Shen Gung Fu) and that is safety principle number one for circulating and cultivating energy.

Qigong is a wonderful thing to take before taking KAP. It cleans out all the energetic channels. This way the process of KAP will go quicker because you will have some basic clearing done. Internal cultivation practices like Qigong, tai chi, yoga, reiki, etc., are excellent preparation. I love to work with people who do have an internal cultivaton practice. They "switch on" fast. Where before there may have been a fuel like gasoline running through the channels...now they have will nuclear fusion. Getting trained in KAP is like getting off a bicycle and getting into a Ferrari. It's not for everyone although everyone has the capacity to do so. It comes down to personal preference.

Yep...he did. And he did it one more time after the seminar was over to about ten of us at once. He plugged the plates into the wall in the conference room, put his foot on it and the other maybe under Santi's foot. He had ten of us hold hands, did not close the circle and went around giving us the juice from the wall. Fascinating to watch and experience. Much to discuss but sometimes it is good to have a mystery in our lives. We don't know all the answers about life or of what the human organism is capable. I saw many amazing things come to pass in the seminar room that weekend. The most wonderful was to see such smiles of happiness and peace as people connected for the first time to what some call the Source and also to each other. The mind is a useful tool but like any tool it has it's limits. It can only know what it knows. Sometimes there must be experience to increase the capacity for knowledge. Coming with the mind of a child, with no expectations and no judgments is a wonderful way to enlarge the world to an even bigger place of fun, creativity and wonder.

Me too...well not quite 15 but my eyes are so clear this morning. If you have never had someone use direct current right out of the wall and flow it into you body...you oughta try it. Pak had two metal plates. One was plugged into the wall socket and Pak put his knee on it. He put the other plate under Santi's foot and while we were sitting together he made us hold hands. In the UK they use DC rather than AC like we use in the States. Pak is able to modulate the current through his own body so we would not get the full impact but Santi and I can both take a very large high current which Pak's indicates we have very little spiritual blocks in our bodies. He said other people usually start screaming. He did other cool stuff too. I would have sworn he was piercing my body with iron nails some times while he was massaging but it is just his iron finger chi. Had me yelping sometimes in pain. Fascinating. I feel great this morning. Energy is really flowing. If you get to London look Pak up and go.

heheh...I was driving Dr. Morris to the airport and his fricking deshi was late. Just as an aside it was the one and only Jeff Primack. Always fricking late with the stupidest excuses...jeez....even when I would call him the night before and tell him get there early cause of the traffic. I was driving like 60 on speed limit of 45 mph down the boulevard and I was in FLOW, timing with the stop lights. So cool. Jeff was like, " Cool,how are are you doing that?" from the back seat with his then girlfriend to be his first wife. Shut up and hold on. I am a woman with a mission. Get the boss to the airport! Missed the plane. Whooo weeeee...Jeff caught some major hell from Glenn at the airport. The only one of two people I ever saw Glenn get angry and yell at was Primack.