ShaktiMama

he said he wanted to meet someone of high spiritual attainment. he answered his own statement.

Personally, I think enlightenment is a cultural myth.

Transmission is a word that the public can understand. There is transmission and then there is transmission, of course. I only fry with consent They know it's coming and they want it bad! They keep coming back and asking for more cause it is such a big help in their personal practice. LOL We love our students very much. Shaktipat is an old school term. As for long distance that is descriptive enough for people to wrap their mind around. For people like Santi and me, the extraordinary is ordinary, common place. It is natural. Not a big deal. We don't think twice that people might think we sit on the Jedi Council when they hear us talk or interact with us. But, of course, then there is the other contingent who think we are so totally full of shit because it doesnt fit in their paradigm of reality. Eh...*shrug*...students come when they are ready. We are happy to train those who come. Kundalini Awakening is meant to create a natural human being who is in a spontaneous dance with ALL THAT IS. Our bodies are designed for this process to happen. Our bodies like when it happens. It is our entrenched belief systems about what is so that hates the kundalini awakening. He would be the first to admit he is. Santi loves and honors women and the Divine Feminine. He sits at the feet of Shakti waiting for her direction. He will be the first to tell you he belongs to Her.

so why couldn't you say this up front first instead of 18 pages of being a butt later: "Edit: and Mama, the visualizing sitting kind of MCO is not just weak but dangerous, it's a hard style because it is forced. One person from half way across the country came to see me because she had been seriously damaged by doing it, and I've heard of others. I couldn't help her, and I think the damage was permanent, she will never be able to meditate. My teacher, who is a great healer, will not attempt to help such people. There are many ways to do the MCO with movement and that is what I recommend as it is safe. Safety is paramount, particularly for powerful systems, as you must know." We don't force in KAP. KAP is filled with safety measures. Glenn was big on safety since he got himself seriously fried in the beginning. Santi and I talk about how it easy it is to dig stuff up on the internet and cobble together a practice. The problem is doing it out of sequence or something left out (which much of cultivation is oral tradition so that is very common) or in the wrong position or whatever and people do damage to themselves. What else is missing is transmission from the teachers and their protection besides the usual physical act of teaching. Qigong can mess people up. *raises hand* Can make people really sick. *raises hand* I have been there. Who studies the jing, chi, shen and alchemical aspects of internal cultivation before they teach? Not many. People think it is harmless like they think yoga is just exercise. Not if you study medical qiogong. I was telling Santi that in my study of medical qigong I saw so many combat application I couldn't believe what I was reading in the text books.

KAP combines practices....so you may be doing chi sets with MCO with sufi prayers with Secret Smile. KAP people know how to multitask. Santi can speak more on it. He's the Director of the program.

not much chia in KAP if there ever was and I used to teach the old version with Glenn. There is definitely very little if at all in the new but I don't keep current with Chia so I can't be sure. Sant'is system very much leans to the shamanic side. I like it and he's got serious juice, big chi beast. Gets you in touch with Source quickly. No 30 years of servitude in some guru's cave tending bean sprouts and following the rice bowl with the KAP system. I can't even conceive of Santi teaching Chia. There is literally no room for it. KAP is filled with so many other things. Why waste time teaching something you can get from the bookstore? Where is the value in that? I would rather learn at another level. Don't other people? Chia's system never felt "right" in the body to me . I could feel no heart, no love. Some people like that kind of practice. I don't so I don't use his stuff. I'm all for using what works...regardless of the system. I didn't come out of any system at all. Only started looking at chi gong in 2006 because I met Jin Fa in Vancouver and it was, felt shamanic. Another chi beast and so were many of his students. Jin Fa was also kind and funny and so were his students. When the energy runs i do spontaneous chi gong forms and yogic asanas. When say chi beast I am talking like my wuji gigong teacher, Master Duan in China. Jeez, scary strong chi transmission and wei chi field. Spent a couple of weeks with him in Beijing. There is a video of him up on you tube, a PBS documentary. Santi has got some serious chii but I have touched in with some of Santi's teachers and they are some chi monsters. Not only are their chi fields massive but wooo...their shen is incredible. We are not talking chinese or yogic either...more like Sufi and Muslim, stuff that goes back to the cradle of civilization, Mesopotamia. Amazing, there is massive power and spiritual understanding in those lineages. Have I got a lot more to learn now! (How unaware of me not recognize there is treasure there. Those traditions are ancient.) Fortunately, Santi has generously intro'd me to a couple of his masters for which I owe much giri. It will be another couple of decades before those traditions get out and start becoming well known. Like how the oriental arts were in the 60s when they came to America's shores. Santi catches a lot of energetic attack from other teachers of those traditions because he wants to share with the foreigners. Those traditions are intro'd in the upper kap levels. I don't care whose system is older and better just show me and let me decide. Talk is cheap. I am pretty basic...I go where the juice (spiritual power) is greatest and that's where I camp out and learn. In my 19 years of being on this crazy path it is this year Santi has intro'd to me some of the most amazing traditions that are nuclear powered. Nothing much makes me sit up and take notice anymore because I have been around for awhile. This does. The secret smile is not the inner smile. The MCO is not a chia mco. I always thought the Chia one was under developed and for people who have weak chi. But of course, if you are just starting to train that makes sense but KAP uses an enhanced one. But is unwise to compare MCOs in different systems since there are infinite number moving in the body and in exchange with the local environment and the Universe. Sure you can talk about the different main ones but there are SO many others. I speak from experience not from being taught this. Most if not all people cant carry high voltage in their channels without practice. Santi and I have our practice differences. We compare and experiment but we rarely disagree. All paths lead to Rome. Some are shorter, some are cheaper, some more expensive, some wind in and out in the desert for decades. So many to choose from. In the 70s' someone said, "life is like a cafeteria, take what you need and don't spit on the rest." Whom am I to judge? People get the teacher they deserve. yeah...and I made an inappropriate joke...ah well...i am not saint...just human...please don't put me on a pedastal... i could edit that out but i won't...so you know i do really stupid things too sometimes...like we all do just wanted to add...being a critical care nurse for over 20 years I am accustomed to gallows and inappropriate humor but I forget how really offensive it can be to people who are not used to watching people die or suffer on a daily basis. My apologies.

like i said...are you all 12?...jeebus... yep...i can see it now...all going out for a beer afterwards, yes? Slapping each other on the back...good game! but it is what it is.... i need to get back to real life.... If we break over 8 thousand hits on the KAP thread...I am not complaining. i havent even been a member for 4 full days yet.

ya...and yo mama says it's all fun and games till someone gets their eye poked out, yes? So mama says don't come crying to mama, little boys, when your nose gets bloodied. I don't care what side you are on.And consider games with energy are about who is the better vampire. The greater the uproar the bigger the meal. Warning: Totally politically incorrect humor. If you are PC don't read: Fighting on the internet is like winning the Special Olympics. You are still a retard.

Riddle me this... chi gung, shen gung, wife gung, nei gung children gung, buddhist, daoist, yogic whatever. If one practices diligently with a good system, ONE IS CHANGED for the better. One can't help it. Virtue will spontaneously begin to show it self. If people who call themselves advanced practitioners, even teachers, behave with vindictive, deceitful, vengeful, shallow actions might we expect you to examine the veracity of your practice? Might we question the lineage for the tree is known by its fruits? Right practice brings forth right action. One's true character shows when pressure is on. People act in opposition to right action because of fear which is pathological chi. Simple enough to fix. People respond to others based on love or fear. Fear is primal under all the negative emotions. We are born with that capacity to fear. As adults we intellectualize and call it other names but it is still at the root fear. Fear of loss of face, insecurity etc. It's not a moral question. It's an organic question about a dysfunction in the body. Fix it if you can or get help. It is interesting to note that if we practice and one of the basic 5 elements is emphasized in our cultivation over the others there will be imbalance in the flow...there is compromise. (There are other variables to consider but that is most basic.) One may counter "i am being a warrior....defending myself and teachers. I use what is necessary to do so." Ummm...this is the internet not the killing fields. Have a little perspective. I always speak to my own self first for this too applies to me. I know nothing and speak from my own experiences. Much love Susan

My response would be why wouldn't someone be open to be read that way? What do I have to hide? I am not ashamed of my Shadow. Is it something for protection against evil gui? or evil intent? My protection skills are pretty good. TCM culture doesn't share a lot particularly if the practitioner received training during or post early Maoist regime. Some chinese practitioners are absolutely terrified of the word chi. The culture doesn't share a lot because they don't know or they don't care to know IMO. Also the ones who do know...if you aren't humble, forget it. If you want to read some of the good books to get some info that will be helpful on what you seem to be looking for, get Dr. Jerry Alan Johnson's text books for medical gigong. I use them like recipe books. He has his distractors and, puleeeze, people do not take me to task on it. I really don't care. I only use what works anyway. I spent over 200 hours doing his first level medical qigong practitioner training including clinical time and table work so I don't care to hear it. This community is small and inbred. I probably have heard all the negative stuff already. So from a Daoist Medical qigong/TCM viewpoint he can help you put the pieces together. He is a good gateway and his research has been valuable to me. Johnson teaches how to run orbits for people if the client's is weak or dysfunctional. It's all about intent. Yes, Glenn is a chi beast. I wrote that the first time and then made it past tense. I will say this...when your cultivation skills and sensing skills are good enough you won't need to take pulses.

o.m.g I am lmao here. love the pic.

Never give up, Lino. Some problems never do go away Lino, but the intensity can be lessened. After teaching for a long time with Glenn I was extremely exhausted. I would fall down or walk into walls because I was so weak. I walked like a drunk person sometimes. Fatigue was so great I would fall into bed at about 6 and not get up till 9 am the next day and then have to lay down for a nap again later. I went to a couple of excellent doctors of acupuncture. One was native chinese, PhD in herbs and a university level instructor in TCM in his native China. The other was one of the premier practitioners and instructors in Canada who runs a great school in Nelson, BC. Both diagnosed me with severe chi and blood deficiency. Both, I am sure, saved my life and kept me alive for a long time. Life improved but not enough. Still tired all the time in spite of the acupuncture, the herbs, the qigong (which if I did more than a few minutes it made me very ill because I purged good chi with the bad because I was so weak.I could not hold the chi in my body that I cultivated. But Shakti....it is never affected by body physiology. It was as strong as always.) A few times I could have walked out of my body because it was not strong enough to hold my essence. One day because of a new job I got health insurance. Went in for a physical and discovered I was so severely anemic I could have died. Maybe I would have without those weekly acupuncture treatments I had been getting for a year. After a few iron infusions and now daily mega doses of iron, a year later I am so much better. Do to an instrinsic, mechanical problem I will have to take huge doses of iron for the rest of my life. I can now do qigong without turning green and yellow for months and feel like I am going to die. I have also lost the majority of my extreme bitchiness and sadness which, hello, are byproducts of blood and chi deficiency and also anemia. I have lost also my sensitivity to cold and feel warm inside again. Yay! My hands and feet run hot again! You and I are not the same, I know, Lino. Santi has told me you have suffered and I can pick it up on your posts on the KAP student forum. Not all our problems can be eradicated out of our lives but we can lessen the effect they have. If you only do one practice in KAP that would be the Secret Smile. It truly is miraculous for the effect it has on people for the so little effort it takes to do. Keep going, Lino. Never give up. We are here for you, little brother. We can't fix you but we sure can hold you up. Love and blessings to you.

STEPHEN! How in the heck are you? Last time we talked you were sweating your way thru acupuncture school in Boulder. You were so kind to show me those Capoeira moves and let Glenn drive that sweet little car of yours. Thanks for the kindness shown. Glenn really liked you. Me too. You have such clean, shining energy. Pure like a diamond. I bet you are outstanding in your practice. Love and blessings to you! Don't be a stranger.

well said guys... I particularly like the frosting analogy. Mind if I use it? Sexual tourist...aint that the truth? I was teaching at neo tantric conference a few years ago with Dr. Morris..what a mistake that was. One group rented a hummer and drove in from LA. I couldn't even begin to talk to them about Ardhanarishvara. I was telling a group of senior students last night, "I eat, drink, and shit God." Passionately loving Shiva with every breath I take, Susan

Santi and I will be teaching in central London, UK, next month. We do a free introductory evening. We will be talking about the process and will be giving Shaktipat if you want to come by for a hello. The location has just been confirmed by our guy on the ground there. We will be at a University for three days and two nights. http://www.kundaliniawakening.com/london-january-2010.html Come and meet us, shake our hands or give us a hug and see for yourselves what the fuss is all about. If you do decide to stay for the class that starts for the weekend the price is very reasonable. In fact it is less cost than the US fee. If you have taken KAP 1 already with Santi or Tao there is a significant reduction for a retake. It's only $99 US. That price is for online grads too. Santi and I donate 10% of the receipts to a reputable children's charity. We have been able to donate a signficant amount in the last 6 months. I hope you will come by and meet us. We would love to meet you. We have people from Germany to Brazil coming besides from London area. We have so much fun and you become lifelong friends with a caring and supportive tribe.

She didnt' know what specifically we were doing. She just knew where were changing the circulation in the orbits not which ones. I just felt for the chong mai and ran the flow in the opposite direction. Some day, if we ever meet, I will let you take my pulses and then I will reverse flow different orbits. But it is simple enough to do on your own. It's all about intention and sensing which is something that Glenn and I taught. The extraordinary vessels or strange flows are fascinating. Some of my contemporaries have suggested to me that these are the vessels that actually have to do with kundalini awakening. I learned to feel the chong mai by sitting next to Dr. Morris. His ran like a freaking bulldozer, total power on. It's resonance entrained with mine and all of sudden mine felt like this power dozer too. Glenn was an absolute chi beast.

I speak as someone who taught and traveled with Dr. Glenn Morris for 3 years. He sought me out for my expertise in knowledge and understanding in kundalini phenomenon and in kundalini development. He then had me start teaching and giving Shaktipat and Chi transmission with him I know that Glenn loved and adored Santi like a son. He talked quite frequently about Santi and how proud he was of him and his abilities. (I did not meet Santi in person till this year.) Do people know that Santi is responsible for creating half of the program that Glenn and I taught? Glenn was Santi's best friend, mentor and father. Who better to be appointed by Glenn to be Director of the KAP program? Do people know that Santi has since revamped and created a more powerful iteration of the old program? You wont' hear it from Santi. It IS better than the old program because I taught the old program. Now I teach the new program with him. Now I give Shaktipat with Santi and chi transmissions and do healing work with him just like I did with Glenn. Santi told me he first came to this forum because people were trashing Glenn, not unlike how they trash Santi now. Not to promote his programs. I remember earlier reading in this thread there were complaints of no time spent on development of virtues. An experiential understanding of virtues will reveal that virtue can arise as spontaneous response from internal chi development and the tonification of the 5 yin organs. If your liver is filled with stagnant chi a person expresses anger and resentment. Do your qigong practices and soon the liver will clear and a person will naturally begin to become and express more and more gentleness. If the spleen is damp a person is filled with worry and suspicion. Daily practice will tonify the spleen so the virtue of trust starts to manifest spontaneously and the mind begins to quiet The negative emotion associated with the kidneys are fear. Do your practices and tonify the kidneys so fear begins to dissipate and the quality of wisdom begins to naturally manifest. The negative attribute associated with the lungs is grief. The positive virtue is integrity. The negative attribute associated with the heart is hysteria. The positive virtue is order. Specific internal cultivation practices all help people manifest naturally these positive virtues which are present in a normal state of healthy chi in the person. You can practice gentleness and compassion mindfulness meditations and read books all you want but if your liver is tight and turbid with stagnant chi the practitioner is going to have a long and difficult time of it until the pathological chi is eliminated and replace by healthy chi. It is is fascinating. If you know about these things you can read people's responses and know which of the yin organs is out of balance. Therefore, what I know is the qigong and other internal cultivation practices in KAP do help move stagnant and turbid chi. Qi gong by itself changes people. Virtues will begin to express themselves spontaneously. If people aren't changed by it for the better then something is amiss. Either the training is crappy, the teacher is crappy, or the student is crappy. Which is it? If the training and the teacher is crappy shame on them and they should take personal responsibility and fix it. If the student is crappy shame on the student, take personal responsibility and fix it. Hopefully, the teacher you train with has a heaping portion of these virtues. I still need work and I teach the stuff. But I take responsibility and continue to work on transforming these negative attributes to positive virtues by continuing to train ( a little) and self reflection ( a lot for I still have some dampness in my spleen

I get the migraine aura but with no Migraine...especially the zig zagging round circle thingy

here's my fan girl choice

you wanted a visual of kundalini...this it moving through the body from earth to heaven...transforming as it goes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvXASWDMtBM

Yes...practicing KAP style will eventually bring spontaneous expressions of virtue. love, Susan