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Hi LightShadowDao, There is certainly nothing wrong with using a blindfold when doing any of the FP Qigong meditations--except for, of course, "Monk Gazing At Moon," which is the only exercise in the entire system that is done with the eyes open. I think that using a blindfold would be helpful especially if you are in an environment that has bright lighting that you cannot control. I have never used a blindfold as I usually do my own practice either outdoors or in low light conditions indoors. I also teach my classes in studios with medium-light to low-light conditions. I like to lead practice in the seated Monk Serves Wine Meditations in a room lit only by a white candle on the floor, with practitioners sitting in a circle around it. Thanks for raising the issue. Sifu Terry Dunn P.S. For my on-going students in my classes and workshops and my private students, I teach an ancillary but very powerful method to cleanse the mind and the eyes. www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

This is a mercury retrograde updating: Three weeks ago, I taught an evening FP Qigong class in which we did the following: A. 35 min. Warm-up and preparation: 1. the first section of "Silk Weaver's Exercise" (unrelated to Silk-reeling energy practice of Chen Tai Chi) 2. First 7 exercises of Ching Dynasty Imperial Guard exercises. (15 min.) 3. 3 Warm-ups of my Tai Chi For Health DVD (which were emphasized by my first Taoi Chi teacher, the late GM Abraham Liu, who passed away last April at age 102): (a) Wave Hands Like Clouds in bow stance; (b) Lifting Hands/Play Guitar 90 degree transitions; (c) Snake Creeps Down alternation. B. FP Standing Meditations -- in this order (1 hour): 1. Wind Above the Clouds 2. Bending the Bows 3. Wind Through Treetops 4. Moonbeam Splashes on Water (2 rounds) 5. Monk Holding Peach 6. Monk Holding Pearl C. FP Seated Meditations (Monk Serves Wine): 1. 60 70 40 5 (vol.7) 2. 50 40 30 10 (2nd MSW on Vol.2) 3. 50 20 10 "The Sleeper" (first MSW on Vol.7) Mercury Retrograde is a perfect time to review and perfect and advance your Flying Phoenix Qigong practice. Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hi Earl Grey, Thank you for your excellent response to Blue Phoenix's recapitulation of my past explanation about FP Qigong being virtually impervious to being abused or misused and my recapitulation of GM Doo Wai's explanation that FP Qigong works best for virtuous people. I. FP Qigong is impervious to being misused because: (A) the energy it cultivates as all practitioners have experienced after a couple of 45 min. practice sessions or less is a sublime and purely healing energy, which cannot be used for martial art. The FP Healing Energy doesn't want to move and won't be moved in martial fashion with destructive intent. One has to "switch gears" psychically and alchemically to do martial arts after any substantial FP Qigong practice session. (B) it's practice is foolproof and fail-safe. The postures and movements of the FP Meditations are so simple and elegant that, as i've said in the past, you really have to try and and you really have to have to be BENT and with a special brand of karmic stupidity to screwup FP Qigong practice (by not following traditional instructions or intentionally switching or bastardizating the primary breath-control sequences). (C) Evil people, or let's call them the non-virtuous, are not interested in cleansing on a cellular level and attaining a holy, spiritual, self-healing, and spontaneously healing consciousness with respect to others. They are engaged in harming other people. FP Qigong is so pure that it will not tolerate their hypocrisy while trying to heal themselves while they continue to have malicious, destructive or predatory intent upon others. Thus the alchemy fundamental to FP Qigong is a spiritual alchemy; it comes from a divine source. II. Thus, the inverse of BPhoenix's recapitulation is a more encompassing: Flying Phoenix Qigong will not work for evil people--especially die-hard evil ones. Nor will it have much benefit--if any atll-- for the stupid, ignorant, dishonest, corrupt, hate-filled, immoral, and spiritually blind. (As I've stated in past postings, stupid people don't need to meditate because to them, everything is cathartic. This might sound cynical to some; but it is simply my advice for teachers to abide by Miyamoto Mushashi's last precept: "Do nothing which of no use.") ==> IMPORTANT CORRECTION OF YOUR QUOTE ATTRIBUTION, EARL GREY: This statement, "Cosmic Love is totally ruthless and highly indifferent" was NOT uttered by GM Doo Wai. It's author is Arthur Janov, founder of Primal Therapy and it is a favorite expression of great psychotherapists, which I believe it has not been published in print. ON TOP of all his consummate prowess in all the high-level Bok Fu Pai internal martial arts that he revealed to us, plus Eight Sections of Energy Combined, plus DM arts with mechanisms and deadly effects one cannot even imagine, plus a couple of esoteric energy arts that I'm certain he had never taught to anyone, what GM Doo Wai emphasized to us all regularly throughout or training years was: "Healing (others) is the most important thing." Thanks for both your posts, BlueP and Earl Grey! (Mercury Retrograde is affecting the planet (stations on March 5)--so for the next 3 weeks, it is wise and most appropriate to review and refine all that you already know and are practicing. No new concoctions of any sort; certainly no experimentation with FP Qigong! Best to all, Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hi Awarenessrules, Great Daobums screenname. Sorry to take so very long to reply with answers to your post...I was in NYC last week studying Tai Chi immersively with my teacher, GM William C.C. Chen, and crossed a threshold where doing the Tai Chi solo form has profound Qigong benefits unique to Tai Chi Chuan and very different from FP Qigong's effects. And great that you've been practicing FP Qigong off and on for 2-3 years and have experienced good results. 'Better than having done anything less! Many FP practitioners have posted on this thread that they have practiced off and on, or taken a long break of up to one or two years, and when they come back to FP practice to find that they ramp up to even more benefits than ever before. As long as you get back to regular practice and let the system work for you, that's all that matters. Positive results are inevitable. First of all, before I try to answer your questions, for the daobums audience, here are 2 basic definitions one needs to understand about the lymph fluid , lymph nodes, and the function of the lymphatic system: Lymph is a clear fluid that travels through your body's arteries, circulates through your tissues to cleanse them and keep them firm, and then drains away through the lymphatic system. Lymph nodes are the filters along the lymphatic system. Their job is to filter out and trap bacteria, viruses, cancer cells, and other unwanted substances, and to make sure they are safely eliminated from the body. This is clear and succinct explanation of how the lymphatic system works--in relation to the circulatory system in women: "The arteries are like a two-lane highway bringing nutrients, oxygen and fluid to the breast. The vein is a one-lane highway taking away the used blood, and the lymphatic channels are the other one-lane highway draining away the lymph fluid. Two lanes in together, but two separate lanes out." -- Marisa Weiss, M.D., chief medical officer, Breastcancer.org Here are my very limited answers to your questions: My question is does the lymph node removal has any long term side effects according to tcm? I cannot answer that question without seeing you in person and reading/testing your energy. And even then I would be hard-pressed to give an opinion about the side effects of the removal of 2 lymph nodes. First of all, you should know what the lymphatic system does as a most vital part of your immune system--. Removal of lymph nodes affects the circulation of lymph--fluid that carries white blood cells and carries away toxins of all kinds. But I don't know if removing 2 lymph nodes in that part of the body necessarily affects the energy body in any significant way. Even if I were to sense or see an energy imbalance in the area of excision, that may not necessarily have been caused by the removal. [If you were to suffer severe damage to the spleen, the most vital organ of the lymph system, then there might be be severe and permanent damage to the lymphatic system and the vital immune system.] Will it permanently effect my lymph system and meridians at the site of excision? You are conflating the lymphatic system with the meridian map that's foundational to acupuncture theory and practice. As I've posted many times in this thread, the meridian map used in Acupuncture and TCM is only one map of human health. It is not the only map or explanation of how the human body functions and how health can be maintained. Flying Phoenix Qigong--along with all the Bok Fu Pai internal energy arts--do NOT rely on the meridian map or the TCM view of the energy body or of human health. The quality and the optimal time to practice FP Qigong depends solely on the position of the sun. You have combined two very different questions into one. So I will answer each one separately: (1) Will it permanently effect my lymph system? I am not a western physician so I cannot give you an answer. (2) Will it permanently effect the meridians at the site of excision? I don't know if removal of 2 lymph nodes would affect the meridians in the area of excision. I cannot give you an answer because i am not a doctor of TCM and I don't use meridian theory in my Qigong practice, my teaching of FP Qigong nor in my energy healing treatments. I advise that you consult the surgeon who did your operation and also separately consult a thoroughly trained and experienced doctor of TCM. Ideal would be finding both skillsets in one doctor. But that's a very tall order; such a combination of such very different skillsets would be very rare and not likely to exist in one person in the west. The lymph nodes transport fluid throughout body and there are 600 total in body. So when the lymph reaches the groin area where I had lymph nodes removed, what would happen since there is no way to move forward at the excision site? Again, I could not say how the body would react after the removal of 2 lymph nodes in that area for any specific person. Normally with lymph node removal, there is swelling and pain in the area of excision that is only temporary. You should consult a highly qualified and experienced surgeon to find out the long-term effects of lymph node removal. Whats tcm view about node removal? I have no idea what TCM would view lymph node removal in general or how. I imageine that it would vary from one TCM doctor to the next. And each would have to see you in person in order to diagnose any kind of permanent damage or ill side-effects caused by your surgery--or determine if there was any type of "energy blockage." Would it create a permanent energy blockage? Without seeing you in person, and thus basing my answer only on the info that you've posted, I would say, in general, "NO", not a permanent one--unless you had an energy blockage in that area to begin with. Would it effect my Qigong practice? Only you can find that out for yourself by practicing. I am asking you because I read in previous threads that you were once shot, so you might have lymph node or tissue removed from your body so you can answer it from your personal experience and how qigong helped with energy blockage due to injury? I find your term "energy blockage" to be too general and grossly vague and thus to me is virtually meaningless unless I see it in person. You are also using the term "injury" in too gross a way when you associate "energy blockage" with "injury." Injury does not necessary cause energy blockage. Severe traumatic injury probably would block energy. But to try and answer your question about how I used to Qigong during the healing phase after the gunshot incident in 1986, the thought or concept of "removing energy blockage" never crossed my mind. I did not practice Qigong during my recovery to remove any energy blockage. I practiced Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung as well as Tai Chi (the very second I got out of the intensive care ward) to make all my organs and orbs strong and in perfect harmony with one another and to activate the self-healing faculties of the body. The only "energy blockage" resulting from physical trauma like a gunshot wound that one could be certain of--would be if the subject were shot dead. Then there would be definite "energy blockage." The shooting incident I had in 1986 did not affect my lymphatic system. On Oct. 8, 1986, I was shot in the back with a .38 pistol by a psychotic serial killer who had killed 10 people in the previous 31 days in Los Angeles. (He died two hours after he attacked me according to the LAPD detectives and LA County Coroner and the LA times. The one bullet that hit me (one of 3) went from one end of the liver to the other. But because the liver is the 2nd most vascular organ in the body, one recovers very quickly from a physically damaged liver (as opposed to a chemically damaged one). I had no infections after the gunshot wound and no problems with my lymphatic system during or after my recovery from that injury. Thus I cannot answer your question(s) because I've never experienced lymph node removal. I hope you find out through practice of an effective qigong system like FPCK if there are any long-term side-effects of your surgery. Good luck in your recovery, and I hope you don't have to undergo any further removal of lymph nodes. Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hurray, Astral Butterfly! Congratulations on your break-through and self-initiation into the joys of Flying Phoenix Healing Qi through regular practice. This art is indeed so elegant and effective as a completely self-contained and stand-alone discipline that it can work fine and to its fullest potential "straight out of the DVD box"--i.e., without any particular master supervising you. I am thrilled that you have experienced the fact that there is NO INTERMEDIARY at work in FP Qigong practice. FP Qigong is not like the Catholic church! there is just you, the FP Art, and the Ever-Conscious Universe that your practice opens up. Peace and Health, Sifu Terry www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hello BluePhoenix113, I'm glad you've discovered the reality that the Flying Phoenix Healing Chi is cultivated by practice in a cumulative manner and indeed gets "stored up." Throughout the years of this thread, I've described how the effects of FP Qigong practice are cumulative and that a tangible reserve of FP Healing Qi is stored in a "reserve." Constant regular practice--and not even grueling at all, for FP Qigong is so sublime---will cultivate a super-abundance of the FP HEaling Qi. Once this super-abundance develops, you will be the source of spontaneous healing of others. And others will LOVE you profoundly. That dynamicism of the FP Healing Qi is why FP Qigong is a spiritual art. Sifu Terry Dunn P.S. Also, sorry to take so long to respond. I'm just now catching up on posts from start of the new year. www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hi Charlie, Sorry to take so long to reply to your post. I've had a hectic past 2 months immediately following Christmas holidays. Answer: I don't think that FP Qiogng or any type of Qigong can directly prevent a detached retina event because there are so many possible /variable factors that would cause detachment. All I know from my teaching experience is that FP Qigong (and also Tao Tan Pai Qigong, which I also teach [since 1983]) will improve and clarify vision by reversing overall bodily fatique by whatever spiritual "cleansing" or purification one might derive from the practice, which depends solely upon the karma and predilection of the practitioner. Sorry I can't be of more help. One expert diagnostician you might want to consult to see what remedies might help your condition is my friend Eric Isen in La Jolla, CA. You may recall Eric is an Ayurvedic monk who has been working full-time as a medical clairvoyant for decades and remotely read the effects of each individual FP Qigong Meditation for and on "Tao Stillness" about 4-5 years ago and then "Tao Stillness" very kindly and generously shared those readings with me and the thread. So if you want a good second opinion, let me know by PM or email and I will give you his contact info. Best, Sifu Terry www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR TO THE FLYING PHOENIX QIGONG COMMUNITY! I am glad to back after a relative absence from the thread over the past 5-6 weeks due to extensive travel over the Christmas holidays, a harsh winter here in the Berkshires, and lots of work on 4 book projects including the FP Qigong book, which has been a work-in-progress since about the third year of this thread. (It's coming along.) I will do my best to respond to the backlog of postings that were addressed to me specificially. In the meantime, here is a little New Year's gift: a video of my demonstration of "Moonbeam Splashes On Water," which all serious FP practitioners should be doing after certainly after year of practicing all the FP Meditations on Volumes 1 and 2, and "Wind Through Treetops", the meditation leading up to "Moonbeam" on Volume 3. I was inspired to perform "Moonbeam" and to record it on a beautiful December morning at Eastover Estate with the eastern hills behind me. My very slow speed of practice in this video is appropriate and essential for deriving optimal health benefits from this and all FP moving meditations: So enjoy...and then get busy with your practice! Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi Charlie, Sorry to hear about your second detached retainal event. I have a specific subset of FPCK meds--seated ones--that might help. No guarantees at this time, of course. You can PM me anytime about it or email me. Best, Sifu Terry

Hi Stillwater, No problem. For Wind Above the Clouds, you do one breath control sequence (50, 40 , 30) for one round of the movements. Then you take 3 deep breathes to come out. If you want to do another round of this moving meditation, you take another 3 deep breathes and do the breath control sequence again (one time) before you start the movements. Enjoy. Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello to the FP Qigong Community: It is 3 weeks 3 days until my next 22-hour immersive workshop in Flying Phoenix Qigong at Eastover Estate in beautiful Lenox, MA. This was recently scheduled by Eastover due to the nice attendance we had for the last one in mid-September. This one will be my last FP Qigong workshop on the east coast for this year. http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn-2.html • The 3-day 22-hour course qualifies is recognized as a CORE course by NCCAOM and earns 21 PDA's for students enrolled in a NCCOAM-accredited college. See you there along with my "Old Guard"--New York and New England students who have attended every Eastover workshop since I started teaching there in June of 2017! As part of the 22 hours of Flying Phoenix Qigong training, you will get to compare and contrast the remarkable FP Qigong energy with that of other internal systems that I preserve. For I will also teach as 20-30 minute warm-up to each session samples from various other internal arts that It preserve: Tao Tan Pai Basic 31 Meditations, Qing Dynasty Imperial Guard Exercises (that I learned from Master George Xu in the late 80's), a set of essential Yang style Tai Chi Qigong Exercises, the powerful Ehrmei Mountain 10,000 Buddhas Meditations, plus a module on how to apply the FP Qigong Healing Qi. Thank you all for your enthusiastic participation and diligent practice. See you there. Sifu Terry P.S. Eastover serves great organic food, offers very nice accommodations for all budgets, and has miles and miles of hiking trails throughout its 600 acres. It is one of the top holistic resorts in the Berkshires. And the nearby town of Lenox is filled with great shops, art galleries and restaurants.

Hi Stillwater, If you experience in mediation and other Qigong styles, you can focus our breathing at the tan tien and do diaphragmatic breathing or we call "natal" breathing pattern (how all human infants are born breathing). But don't "force" yourself to breathe low. Just breath naturally as you do the priming breathing control sequence at the start of each FP Meditation. Then breath naturally for the rest of the mediation until you take the 3 breathes to count yourself out and end the meditation. Also on Wind Above The Clouds.... am I correct that you do the % breathing before every cycle of the exercise? So, 3 deep breaths, % breathing, hands up, cover eyes, down.... bend right, left, right again... rise up. Sequence ends. Breathe 3 deep breaths. Breathe three deep again, do the % breathing... etc? On Wind Above the Clouds: No No No No No! You only do the breath control sequence one time before you begin the sequence of movements--while in the horse stance forearms horizontal pointing forward with palms facing upward (elbows by the lower ribs)--in the "Monk Begging For Rice" posture. While you're doing the pre-choreographed movments, you breathing naturally. This is the same for all the other Standing FP Qigong meditations: "Bending the Bows," "Moonbeam Splashes on Water," and the Long Form Standing Capstone Meditation the name of which is also the name of the entire system: "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation." Enjoy your exploration of FP Qigong. Best, Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi SriChi, Yes, I am quite behind schedule with producing downloading and streaming versions of the Chi Kung for Health dvd series teaching FP Qigong--due to massive interfereces from a major lawsuit that I was fored to file against a Hollywood film studio back in 2010. But the worst of that crusade for justice is now over and I will be catching up with downloadable APPS through Itunes and GooglePlay plus a destination website that will offer more advanced instruction (than what is already seen on the 6-volume DVD series) that will also include brand new, never before published FP Meditations. But this is not going to happen for at least one year. I am restricted by both budget, my very active traveling (to teach) schedule, and other even more pressing work obligations. So for now, new FP Qigong afficionados will have to bite the bullet and purchase a DVD player. There are very decent ones available online that cost only $23 to $26: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_5_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=dvd+player+usb+3.0&sprefix=DVD+player+usb%2Caps%2C160&crid=3LEUWSYPAYGMJ Best, Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello BenBeastMode, I'm glad got some good relief from practicing FP Qigong and that the 'hanging from a thread attached to crown of the head " postural instruction snapped you into a tangible healing mode with the first seated meditation. Use that visualization in every meditation, especially the standing ones (moving and non-moving meds). it is a universal postural device used in Tai Chi as well. Unfortunately when I noticed it my mind started trying to reject it and it left. I woke up feeling not that good again, and my head has been congested most of the day again, burning eyes. Though not as bad as a few days ago. Next time, when you feel the healing effects, don't reject it. Embrace it and enjoy it. Embrace it by continuing to practice more and more. Do 40 minutes a day minimum until you are daily saturated with that healing experience. Sifu Terence Dunn

To all FP Qigong practitioners thinking about attending the upcoming workshop at Eastover Estate: This is what the training looks like from last summer's workshops, as seen on page 174 of this thread: Bending the Bows: The 2 middle movements in "Moonbeam Splashes on Walter" (as taught on Volume 3): And this is one of a few powerful Bok fu Pai Meditations that I also add to the workshop program, to give everyone a taste of a different Ehrmei Mountain Qigong system that cultivates a different energy from the Flying Phoenix Healing Energy. Hope to see you in Eastover! Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Exactly 2 weeks until my next 22-hour immersive workshop in Flying Phoenix Qigong at Eastover Estate in beautiful Lenox, MA. This will be my last FP Qigong workshop on the east coast for this year...so as they say, "Get IT while the Gettin's good!" http://www.eastover.com/…/master-terence-dunns-flying-phoen… • The 3-day 22-hour course qualifies is recognized as a CORE course by NCCAOM and earns each student 21 credits. See you there along with my "Old Guard"--New York and New England students who have attended every Eastover workshop since I started teaching there in June of 2017! There weather is gorgeous during this high season in the Berkshires...so on Sunday afternoon, Sept. 16, after the last workshop session ends at noon, I have arranged for an optional paddle board or canoe outing at either Laurel Lake or Stockbridge Bowl--led by one of the top outdoor recreational leaders in the Berkshires, who is also one of my most dedicated students. Yes, we will be doing the Long Form Standing Meditation with eyes closed standing on paddle boards in the middle of the lake. One of my new hurdles I've established to qualifify FP Qigong instructors!!! As if 22 hours of FP Qigong training isn't enough: Eastover serves great organic food, offers very nice accommodations for all budgets, and his miles and miles of hiking trails throughout its 600 acres. It is one of the top holistic resorts in the Berkshires, Workshop content and registration info is here: http://www.eastover.com/workshop/master-terence-dunns-flying-phoenix-qigong-iii.html

Earl Grey, Thanks for the sharing your advice on Chinese martial arts decorum. I'm not a big stickler for the title "Sifu" when I'm dealing face-to-face with students in my classes and workshops--even though "Sifu" is the proper title for a senior instructor or master instructor. In fact, since I started teaching kung-fu and Tai Chi in 1983, every in-person student just calls me by my name But in this new day and age of online forums, where faces and forms are not seen, observing this minimum in decorum is reasonable. Thanks for putting out the reminder. Best, Sifu Terry

Hello BenBeastmode: Welcome to the FPCK discussion. The email address for my company, Interarts Productions (Zen-Bear, Inc.) is [email protected] There is a strange glitch in my website's interface with Paypal where sometimes--not all the time--the Paypal purchase receipt sent to an online customer shows a very old email address, "[email protected]"--or something like that, which has been defunct since the late 90's(!). Anyway, if you use this [email protected] address, you will get a response from my assistant or from me personally. Thanks for your interest in the FPCK training and the dvds. Regards, Sifu Terry

My first Flying Phoenix Qigong workshop ever in New York City is this coming Saturday, August 11 from 10am to 5pm at the New York Open Center at 30th and Madison. Come one, come all! You've read about FP Qigong's many profound and interesting health benefits for 9 years on this lively thread of committed FPCK practitioners. Long-term practitioners with experience in meditation and other qigong systems now know that here is meditation and there is meditation; there is Qigong and there is Qigong. Then there is Flying Phoenix Celestial Healing Chi Meditations. Registration info is here: https://www.opencenter.org/flying-phoenix-qigong Thank you everybody for your support of Flying Phoenix Celestial Healing Chi Meditations of Ehrmeishan! Sifu Terry Dunn

Notice to FP Qigong practitioners: In trying to maintain an accurate and updated list of Grandmaster Doo Wai's authorized instructors of Bok Fu Pai arts, on August 1, I confirmed by Skype with Grandmaster Doo Wai that the following are authorized by him to teach Bok Fu Pai Kung Fu arts: Sifu Tom Rizzo Sifu Joel Rizzo Sifu Nick Goener Sifu Dennis Wood Sifu Garry Hearfield and yours truly, Sifu Terence Dunn P.S. The audio recording will be posted shortly.

This is a copy/re-post of what I just posted on a thread asking about Sifu's Tom and Joel Rizzo and Sifu Dan LaRochelle. It emphasizes a point that must be made about understanding where one is in ANY meditative practice--as well as FP Qigong practice--and what one should expect from a preserver of a Chinese internal art, what one must understand about the study of these arts within the Chinese martial art oral tradition, and the limited role that media instruction (such as contained in DVDs) can play in one's practice of these arts: A. If you had reached a very high level in any internal art, then you would certainly experience that bliss ceases intoxicating you after enough karmic purity is reached. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Thank you, Virtue, for citing and punctuating this universal truth about every yogic/spiritual tradition created by humans: bliss and rapture are experienced in the "lower jhanas" or levels of concentration/absorption/one-pointedness--which the Buddha defined and described in the Visuddhimagga (His map of higher states of consciousness--best translated for the West by Daniel Goleman) as the four "material jhanas". If one is to progress beyond the lower four material jhanas to the higher FORMLESS jhanas, one MUST become so PURIFIED such that bliss and rapture are known, felt, and regarded as obstacles, impediments, and GROSS DISTRACTIONS to deeper absorption/Higher Consciousness. If bliss and rapture are not dispensed with, then the subject will never attain the Fourth Jhana. NEVER. And as many have undoubedly noticed on the FPCK thread starting around page 190 (early July 2018), that thread was recently invaded and polluted (as it has in the past) by trollers trying to insidiously divert FPCK subscribers to scam-sites such as "ausar.org" and "ironpalm.com", which sell illegally obtained videos of 6th-generation Grandmaster Doo Wai of the Bok Fu Pai tradition demonstrating some advanced BFP practices. So blatant is the trolling and so phony, deceptive, and potentially grand-larcenous are these websites, ausar.org and also "ironpalm.com" that ALL the moderators of Daobums are vigilant to instantly ban any account that they determine through (their sophisticated IP analyses) to have any overlap with these 2 scam-sites. One particular scam-site, ausar.org, btw, fatuously conflates and merges GM Doo Wai's Bok Fu Pai energy arts with the also stolen name, "Kriya Yoga", which is the sacred Yoga of the great Yogi, Parahamsa Yogananda. That GM Doo Wai could have taught any person in the Kriya Yoga/Yogananda tradition--other than Swami Yogananda himself when he was alive--and commissioned or instructed such a non-existent person to "enlighten" the world with Bok Fu Pai energy arts is and impossibility, absolute bunkum, obvious horseshit, and should be a huge red flag for any person with basic knowledge of yogic traditions and a modicum of common sense. Both "ausar" and what the moderators call "sock-puppets" (avatars donned by these scammers and fraudsters) have been banned from Daobums. All this is to say that this particular con-artist, "ausar", and all like him, promise "bliss and enlightenment" through purchase of their $10,000+ -priced stolen videos of GM Doo Wai (see Youtube condemnation and disavowal), and a few inexperienced naive and gullible beginners in meditation have actually fallen for this ridiculous con and been fleeced of big money (multiple thousands)...when they should have known fundamentally that: bliss and rapture ARE NOT THE ENDS of meditation and spiritual practice, when Bliss and Enlightenment are absolutely INCOMPATIBLE with one another because bliss is only an OBSTACLE TO ENLIGHTENMENT. Grok this basic fact of yogic cultivation and spiritual growth, and one will not fall victim to costly scams such as those foisted by "ausar.org". •••> Once again, this Youtube video posted by Grandmaster Doo Wai in 2007, explains in most clear and vehement terms that the videos showing him demonstrating advanced Bok Fu Pai meditations were STOLEN from him by an outlaw student, whom he condemns and disavows, and thus one can only conclude that such practices were never intended by GM Doo Wai to be released for public consumption. Back to your very thoughtful and relevant point, Virtue: And as I've stated on several occasions on the FPCK thread when the posted question warranted this answer: FP Qigong is a supremely powerful meditative vehicle that streaks one through the first two jhanas and if one practices correctly and is free of perverse views about oneself, can bring one straight to the threshold of the third jhana--of which there are of eight, according to the Buddha. FP Qigong and Sunn Yi Gong practice can provide almost instant "access to concentration." "Access", depending on one's intelligence level--and ability to concentrate and focus the mind--and depending only upon that, is what some meditators spend years trying to attain and never attain. "Access", the first gateway to the 8 Jhanic absorptions are not even entered upon my millions of meditators if they are not practicing correctly. B. The demonstration speed is for the sake of learning. If he moved slower, it would be bad for establishing muscle memory. Maybe I recall this wrong, but Sifu Terry has also stated that the FP energy can move advanced practitioners a bit faster and still impart same effects. Thank you, Virtue, for pointing out what should be obvious point on many levels. (1) My instructional videos teaching Flying Phoenix Qigong, which first made in 1994, are programmed at a speed where any beginner can follow easily. If I did it at actual training speed (of which all my students practice at, btw, as seen in the videos on page 174 of the FPCK thread--even beginners) it would take 50 minutes to go through the capstone meditation of the FP system called "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation". Putting such a demonstration on a DVD program would make for an unpopular and impossible to use product. A beginner/novice in Qigong would ever watch 50 minutes of "Movement at the speed of a shifting sand dune" let alone have the neuro-muscular coordination to practice at that speed. (2) My demonstration of advanced FP QIGONG meditaitons at the "speed of a shifting sand dune" is reserved only for my in-person students-- and then only to initiate and advance to further levels. To demand or expect that I put such practice on any publicly available product or medium is either a naive and unrealistic expectation based ignorance of how Qigong is properly taught by any master, or else is the most impudent and disrespectful of demands that is based on an extremely supercilious sense of entitlement and false pride about one's yogic level. (3) *If one has read the FPCK thead over the past 2 years, one will see that numerous FP Qigong practitioners throughout the world--including my in-class students in Los Angles since 1996) are posting reports of their practice of the Vol.4 Capstone Meditaiton ("Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation") at proper slow speeds upwards of 40 minutes....and in fact are having informal "contests" as to who can do the Vol.4 Meditation the slowest--i.e., over the longest duration of time. (4) Finally, to believe that I personally do not have complete mastery of the FP Qigong system because I haven't posted my highest level demonstration of this art on videos available to the public, reveals a gross and churlish blindness and outright stupidity underneath the arrogance because of the simple fact that the PROOF of mastery of this particular Medical Qigong system is only partially indicated by how one practices the FP Meditation system. THE PROOF OF MASTERY IS IN POWER OF ONE'S HEALINGS. And towards that revelation, I let my healing work speak for itself. (5) I have been told by not only my Bok Fu Pai classmate Sifu Garry Hearfield, but by masters of other Kung Fu and Tai Chi arts that the record formed on this FPCK thread by my 9 years of my answering virtually every question posted about FP training --plus plenty of relevant anecdotal side-trips into how the other Qigong/Nei Kung art that I preserve works (Tao Tan Pai Kung Fu) in contrast to FP Qigong and how the two of them can be brilliantly used together with stellar effects--has demonstrated my thorough knowledge of both arts. The FPCK thread --has had more than 700,000+ views and some 4,600 postings, and is still going strong. Many Daobums subscribers over the years have expressed to me in PM's and posted on the thread that they have found this discussion to be a invaluable guide--and a veritable bible--for FP Qigong training. But there are also a few who have shown by their comments that they don't have either the patience or the grade-school level to read this thread, nor recognize and understand its wealth of esoteric yogic knowledge formed by all its contributors (not must me--but, e.g., Eric Isen's reflections on FP Meditations brought in by Tao Stillness) but amazingly expect advanced practices and knowledge to be made available to them when-- (A) they have not mastered the absolute basic postural fundamentals of Bok Fu Pai kung fu or FP Qigong or any of its sister arts in Bok Fu Pai tradition such that their nervous systems are not ready for what they're asking for; (B) I can tell that--with regard to FP Practitioners in this ninth year--they have not yet developed proficiency in the second longest moving meditation, "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" (90 60 50 20) as taught on Volume 3. (C) those same fair-weather FP Qigong practitioners refuse to accept the truth about this art that I have CLEARLY EXPLAINED starting 9 years ago at the behest of GM Doo Wai: that the FP Qigong system as presented in my Chi Kung For Health DVD series is COMPLETE and self-contained and will enable any practitioner who masters the Vol.4 Long Form Standing Meditation to cultivate and then channel extraordinary and indeed supernatural healing powers to the benefit of those he cares for. (D) The aeons-old tradition in the Chinese martial arts is to: NEVER SHOW TOO PLAINLY. But I have shown the "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation" System more clearly and plainly--as well as in its entirety--perhaps more than any other preserver of a geniune Qigong system and was authorized to do so by GM Doo Wai because it is PURELY A HEALING QIGONG...and the energy and consciousness/structural sensitivity that it cultivates cannot be used to fuel martial art activity or destructive purposes. And for those who blindly dismiss Flying Phoenix Celesital Healing Chi Meditaitons as merely a beginning level practice (some of whom no doubt are the same trolls trying to sell "more advanced" teachings on videos that they acquired by theft), and just to to let them know and to let the world know what's what and what does what, I will in the near future post a 1992 video of Grandmaster Doo Wai clearly stating on camera that just ONE of the Flying Phoenix Qigong Meditations--let alone the entire FPCK System (that I was about to put onto videos back then)-- is enough to empower one to bring back to life small dead creatures. This means, for those who can't put 2 and 2 together to make 4, that one FP Qigong exercise--if practiced properly-- just one FP Meditation--is enough to "bring back" a human being from the brink of death. BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT ONE CAN NEVER ATTAIN SUCH YOGIC EMPOWERMENT MERELY FROM PRACTICING FROM A STOLEN DVD--OR FROM 30 DVD's. And any person that believes that spiritual growth and enlightenment--or healing powers-- can be gotten from just paying money for a media product, and practicing to that product, is grossly misinformed and frightfully deluded. Daobum "Maybe" made this obvious point a few days ago most cogently, "MONEY CAN NEVER BE THE GATEKEEPER TO ENLIGHTENMENT". The final transmission completing any student's apprenticeship of a Chinese internal energy art with a Master is always done in person. For the truth is transmitted MIND TO MIND, without any words, sometimes with a symbol...but never in writing or the absurdity of a moving picture. "The wrong person with right information (the true art) Will still come to no good end. But the the right person with even the wrong (incomplete) art Will succeed and make it work for him." Sifu Terence Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

A. If you had reached a very high level in any internal art, then you would certainly experience that bliss ceases intoxicating you after enough karmic purity is reached. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Thank you, Virtue, for citing and punctuating this universal truth about every yogic/spiritual tradition created by humans: bliss and rapture are experienced in the "lower jhanas" or levels of concentration/absorption/one-pointedness--which the Buddha defined and described in the Visuddhimagga (His map of higher states of consciousness--best translated for the West by Daniel Goleman) as the four "material jhanas". If one is to progress beyond the lower four material jhanas to the higher FORMLESS jhanas, one MUST become so PURIFIED such that bliss and rapture are known, felt, and regarded as obstacles, impediments, and GROSS DISTRACTIONS to deeper absorption/Higher Consciousness. If bliss and rapture are not dispensed with, then the subject will never attain the Fourth Jhana. NEVER. And as many have undoubedly noticed on the FPCK thread starting around page 190 (early July 2018), that thread was recently invaded and polluted (as it has in the past) by trollers trying to insidiously divert FPCK subscribers to scam-sites such as "ausar.org" and "ironpalm.com", which sell illegally obtained videos of 6th-generation Grandmaster Doo Wai of the Bok Fu Pai tradition demonstrating some advanced BFP practices. So blatant is the trolling and so phony, deceptive, and potentially grand-larcenous are these websites, ausar.org and also "ironpalm.com" that ALL the moderators of Daobums are vigilant to instantly ban any account that they determine through (their sophisticated IP analyses) to have any overlap with these 2 scam-sites. One particular scam-site, ausar.org, btw, fatuously conflates and merges GM Doo Wai's Bok Fu Pai energy arts with the also stolen name, "Kriya Yoga", which is the sacred Yoga of the great Yogi, Parahamsa Yogananda. That GM Doo Wai could have taught any person in the Kriya Yoga/Yogananda tradition--other than Swami Yogananda himself when he was alive--and commissioned or instructed such a non-existent person to "enlighten" the world with Bok Fu Pai energy arts is and impossibility, absolute bunkum, obvious horseshit, and should be a huge red flag for any person with basic knowledge of yogic traditions and a modicum of common sense. Both "ausar" and what the moderators call "sock-puppets" (avatars donned by these scammers and fraudsters) have been banned from Daobums. All this is to say that this particular con-artist, "ausar", and all like him, promise "bliss and enlightenment" through purchase of their $10,000+ -priced stolen videos of GM Doo Wai (see Youtube condemnation and disavowal), and a few inexperienced naive and gullible beginners in meditation have actually fallen for this ridiculous con and been fleeced of big money (multiple thousands)...when they should have known fundamentally that: bliss and rapture ARE NOT THE ENDS of meditation and spiritual practice, when Bliss and Enlightenment are absolutely INCOMPATIBLE with one another because bliss is only an OBSTACLE TO ENLIGHTENMENT. Grok this basic fact of yogic cultivation, and one will not fall victim to scams such as those foisted by "ausar.org" and "ironpalm.com" •••> This Youtube video posted by Grandmaster Doo Wai in 2007, explains in most clear and vehement terms that the videos showing him demonstrating advanced Bok Fu Pai meditations were STOLEN from him by an outlaw student, whom he condemns and disavows, and thus such practices were never meant to be released nor authorized for public consumption. Therefore, buyer beware! Back to your very thoughtful and relevant point, Virtue: And as I've stated on several occasions on the FPCK thread when the posted question warranted this answer: FP Qigong is a supremely powerful meditative vehicle that streaks one through the first two jhanas and if one practices correctly and is free of perverse views about oneself, can bring one straight to the threshold of the third jhana--of which there are of eight, according to the Buddha. FP Qigong and Sunn Yi Gong practice can provide almost instant "access to concentration." "Access", depending on one's intelligence level--and ability to concentrate and focus the mind--and depending only upon that, is what some meditators spend years trying to attain and never attain. "Access", the first gateway to the 8 Jhanic absorptions are not even entered upon my millions of meditators if they are not practicing correctly. B. The demonstration speed is for the sake of learning. If he moved slower, it would be bad for establishing muscle memory. Maybe I recall this wrong, but Sifu Terry has also stated that the FP energy can move advanced practitioners a bit faster and still impart same effects. Thank you, Virtue, for pointing out what should be obvious point on many levels. (1) My instructional videos teaching Flying Phoenix Qigong, which first made in 1994, are programmed at a speed where any beginner can follow easily. If I did it at actual training speed (of which all my students practice at, btw, as seen in the videos on page 174 of the FPCK thread--even beginners) it would take 50 minutes to go through the capstone meditation of the FP system called "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation". Not only would such a demonstration make for a bad video product, but beginner/novice would ever watch 50 minutes of "Movement at the speed of a shifting sand dune" let alone have the neuro-muscularl coordination to practice at that speed. (2) My demonstration of advanced FP QIGONG meditations at the "speed of a shifting sand dune" is reserved only for my in-person students-- and then only to initiate and advance to further levels. To demand or expect that I put such practice on any publicly available product or medium is either a naive and unrealistic expectation based ignorance of how Qigong is properly taught by any master, or else, is the most impudent and disrespectful of demands based on an extremely supercilious sense of entitlement and false pride about one's yogic level--that completely disregards Chinese martial decorum...because all Qigong is traditionally transmitted from one generation to the next through the same system of safeguards and exacting standards (3) ** If one has read the FPCK thead over the past 2 years, one will see that numerous FP Qigong practitioners throughout the world--including my in-class students in Los Angles since 1996) are posting reports of their practice of the Vol.4 Capstone Meditaiton ("Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation") at proper slow speeds upwards of 40 minutes (ridingtheox is one such pracitioner that comes to mind). (4) Finally, to believe that I personally do not have complete mastery of the FP Qigong system because I haven't posted my highest level demonstration of this art on videos available to the public, while ignoring the 9 years of my answering every question posted on the FPCK thread about FP training--now with more than 700,000+ views and some 5,600 postings, and still continuing--indicates an extremely low and limited level of cognition in anyone who believes that. The aeons-old tradition in the Chinese martial arts is to: NEVER SHOW TOO PLAINLY. But I have shown the "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation" System more clearly and plainly and in its entirety--by disclosing its esoteric breath-control formulas. And I was only able to do so because Flying Phoenix Qigong is PURELY a HEALING QIGONG. ITS ENERGY CANNOT BE MISUSED OR PERVERTED FOR MARTIAL OR DESTRUCTIVE PURPOSES. And for those who view it as merely a beginning level practice, just to let them know and to let the world know what's what and what does what, I will in the near future post a 1992 video of Grandmaster Doo Wai clearly stating on camera that just ONE of the Flying Phoenix Qigong Meditations--let alone the entire FPCK System (that I was about to put onto videos back then)-- is enough to empower one to "bring back" (to life) lower order creatures. This means, for those who can't put 2 and 2 together to make 4, that one FP Qigong exercise--if practiced properly and mastered--is enough to heal oneself and to activate another person's natural self-healing faculties to cure many forms of injuries and chronic diseases, and, depending on the injury or affliction, is enough to bring back a human being from the brink of death. "JUST ONE of the Flying Phoenix sequence will allow you to "bring them back". JUST ONE of them will do it. Combine them all together and you'll do even more amazing things." – Grandmaster Doo Wai, 1992 in Los Angeles BUT THE FACT IS THAT ONE CAN NEVER ATTAIN SUCH YOGIC EMPOWERMENT AND HEALING ABILITY JUST FROM PRACTICING FROM A STOLEN DVD--OR FROM 30 DVD's. And any person that believes that spiritual growth and enlightenment can be gotten from just paying money for a media product, and practicing to that product, is grossly misinformed and frightfully deluded. The final transmission completing any student's apprenticeship of a Chinese internal energy art with a Master is always done in person. For the truth is transmitted MIND TO MIND, without any words, sometimes with a symbol...but never in writing nor through the absurdity of a moving picture. "The wrong person with right information (the true art) Will still come to no good end. But the the right person with even the wrong (incomplete) art Will succeed and make it work for him." Sifu Terence Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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