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Thanks, Earl Grey for the clarification. That is the correct breath control sequence for the capstone meditation, FPHHCM, on Vol.4 Regards, Sifu Terry

Hello Songshou, You are not the first to have visions of Buddhist iconography while practicing Flying Phoenix Qigong even though you don't or didn't know anything about Kuan Yin and was not at the time actively involved in anything having to do with Kuan Yin. I recall that during the early months of the first year of this thread, two other subscribers posted accounts of the same thing. One said something akin to: "...strange, because I have no interest in Buddhism." Once in a while, I will visualize, visit, and commune with Buddhist, Taoist, and "other" deities during FP meditation, as it is so very conducive to channeling. My last significant channeling was last November, at the suggestion of my Tao Tan Pai classmate, and that was of George Washington, who I saw right up there with the Taoist pantheon. Prior to that was one significant visitation about two years ago by my late senior school brother (Da Sihing) and the most influential teacher I had in Taoist Elixir Method Kung Fu, Nei Kung and healing methods, who taught me from the other side how to reach my karmic enemies anywhere on this earthplane with a very simple gesture made during his signature kung fu form. But I have not had Buddhist entities "visit" me directly (on their own accord) or have Buddhist iconography appear to me in meditation for a very long time. I had a different experience of the blue light cultivated by the FP Qigong system early today. During my practice this morning (consisting of a 22-movement seated "Monk Serves Wine" Long Form (unpublished), then another unpublished 7-round MSW meditation with breathing 70 50 40 30 20 10, and then the Advanced MSW meditation on Volume 7 with breathing (80 70 50 30), then Wind Above the Clouds, Wind Through Treetops (2x), and the Vol.4 Long Form Standing meditation), I was sitting outdoors on the grass under a bright sun and the blue light started to fill my vision starting with the third repetition of that (80 70 50 30) seated meditations' choreography--from the bottom upward. It was interesting because the sun was shining on my eyelids what my eyes saw was a dark red-brown color. When the flourescent sky blue Flying PHoenix color manifested, it at first "clashed with the outer sunlight coming through my eyelids. It seemed as though the flourescent sky blue immediately turned into a dark teal and floated halfway up my "field of vision" with my eyes closed. But then on the next round of the meditation, the blue/dark teal filled my entire field of vision and I saw all blue with a bright reddish brown behind it. In all past meditation sessions when the blue light was "seen" internally, I was indoors without bright sunlight shining on my eyelids. And the blue light was seen as a very bright fluorescent sky blue--just like the display on a dashboard of a particular brand of european sports cars, as I had described in Year One of this thread. Good practicing to everyone. Sifu Terence Dunn P.S. Please remember: my next 22-hour immersive workshop in Flying Phoenix Qigong at Eastover Estate in Lenox, Mass. begins the evening of August 29: http://www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

Hello Songshou, Welcome to the Flying Phoenix Chi Kung thread and community. Glad to hear that you've drifted back into practice of FP Qigong. this system will always take hold in your life when its needed and when you are ready for its almost instantly integrative effects. the starter/instigator of this thread, "Fu_doggy", described the same relationship he had with FP Qigong. But now they are one! Next step is to re-learn the flash meditations, and to start learning the movings meds of Vol. 3 & 4. This order of learning is OK, but it's more important to learn the 3 key moving meditations of Volumes 3 and 4. Vol.4 Long form Standing Med. being the capstone exercise of the whole system. Still no problem with establishing the 5 Flash meditations on Vol.5 at any time. I learn from watching a video over and over (and taking some written notes) until it sinks in; I may watch a meditation a dozen times before my body wants to try it. So I can start that process of watching/learning even while my eyes-closed meditations are from Vol. 1 & 2. Some people who are visually dominant can see a form and then emulate. Or watch choreography over and over until it sinks in. The advantage of video is of course that you can view something ove rand over. In the not too distant past, several of my kung fu teachers would just show us a form one time--once--and that was it. I am doing ONLY Flying Phoenix. The few BFP meds and the couple SYG meds I was doing are on hold (I can work them back in later as needed.). Aside from that I just continue my long-established mantra and contemplation practice of Kuan Yin, P'u Hsien, Wen Shu, and the Healing Brothers Yao Wang and Yao Shang. Good to concentrate just on FP Qigong until you've gained solid proficiency in the system. Thank you for sharing the details of your other practices. I often use traditional mantras in Sankrit devoted to Kuan Yin. I started sensing the blue light--by that I mean a subtle inner seeing and feeling, nothing dramatic. The FP Blue Light will come when it comes. Normally when you someone around you least expects it. On September 12 I'll be 64. I consider that a special age because of the 64 Hexagrams! Happy month-before-your-64th "Before Completion" Birthday! Sifu Terence Dunn

As another reference, here is one more video clip from last week's 3-day immersive Flying Phoenix Qigong workshop at the Eastover Estate & Retreat in Lenox, MA: This is Day Two's evening class during which I teach the sequential movements of "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" (on Volume 3 of the DVD series). Day Three's afternoon class during which all the attendees are doing "Moonbeam" at super-slow speed with eyes closed was posted earlier above (Friday at 3:10 a.m.) Show me your "Moonbeams"! Sifu Terence Dunn P.S. THE NEXT EASTOVER WORKSHOP 22+ hours of sublime, transformative Flying Phoenix Meditation is: DECEMBER 1 - 3 http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn.html

GOOD QIGONG POSTURES -- are seen in more end-of-the-workshop photos of impromptu postures from "Wind Through Treetops", a moving Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Qi Meditation (taught on Volume 3 of the Chi Kung For Health DVD series). THE NEXT EASTOVER WORKSHOP 22+ hours of sublime, transformative Flying Phoenix Meditation is: DECEMBER 1 - 3 http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn.html Fee for the workshop is only $295.

End-of-workshop photo opp. with a terrific group of highly inspired and focused students (L to R): Ruth, Dan, Spencer, Haim, Tony, Sam, Corrine, Agnes and Greg! Over three days, they learned and memorized in mind-body 7 standing meditations and 11 seated "Monk Serves Wine" meditations of the Ehrmei Mountain Flying Phoenix Qigong system. Great job--very well done!! NEXT WORKSHOP IS OCTOBER 6, 7 & 8 www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

Hi Earl Grey, Yes, I will put all of the video clips on Youtube later today and then edit into the above postings, replacing the FB links. While I'm pretty insistent on good production values of everything I put on Youtube, these clips of last week's training at the workshop are valuable guides and reminders as to the speed of movement and calm comportment that all FP practitioners should try to emulate and surpass in order to get maximum benefits from the FP SYSTEM. Best, Sifu Terry Dunn

Lookout Everybody, here comes the "SLEEPER": This is footage of "Monk Serves Wine" seated meditation No.4, aka "The Sleeper" (taught on Volume 7 of the DVD series), here nicely performed by workshop student Spencer Lawrence during the Flying Phoenix Qigong Workshop this past weekend at Eastover Estate & Retreat in Lenox, MA. THE NEXT EASTOVER WORKSHOP 22+ hours of sublime, transformative Flying Phoenix Meditation is: DECEMBER 1 - 3 http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn.html www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html https://www.facebook.com/pg/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health-236579434951/posts/?ref=page_internal (Click this link and see the 4th posting from the top of FB page, stamped July 31 at 4:30 am) Sifu Terence Dunn www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hello all you serious FP Practitioners: This clip shows the two movements in the middle of the Flying Phoenix Qigong meditation known as "Moonbeam Splashes on Water", which we all know was all created in 1644 by Taoist Feng Tao Teh of Ehrmei Mountain. This video also shows the correct speed of practicing this moving meditation as per the oral teaching: "move at the speed of a shifting sand dune." This is the speed at which the entire "Moonbeam" exercise is to be done: So get busy! And I hope to hear/see questions and comments posted about your breakthrough experiences of "Moonbeam" soon! Sifu Terry Dunn http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn.html www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

This is video of an advanced Flying Phoenix Qi Meditation being practiced last weekend at my FP Qigong workshop at Eastover Estate & Retreat in Lenox, MA. This video shows the relaxed, calm, and ultra-slow speed of movement required to effect deepest absorption, mind-body integration, and tangible energization and rejuvenation--described by the oral teaching of "moving at the speed of a shifting sand dune." Apply this speed to your basic Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation in order to effect the Heavenly Healing of the Flying Phoenix!: Also viewable at: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health-236579434951/posts/?ref=page_internal Enjoy your practice at this speed of movement--but with this level of relaxation!! Sifu Terry Dunn http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn.html www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hello Everybody in the Flying Phoenix Qigong community and new arrivals!: I just got back Tuesday from a successful FP Qigong workshop in Lenox, MA at the Eastover Estate & Retreat and I will be catching up on responding to the past 2 weeks of postings that I haven't yet gotten to. But first I want to post this announcement that the next 3-day immersive FP Qigong workshop--also at Eastover Estate in Lenox, MA-- will be on October 6, 7 & 8. The training consists of 22-24 hours of FP Qigong training covering everything in Volumes 1 through 3 of the DVD series and some of the Long Form Standing in Vol.4 plus all kinds of warm-up and conditioning exercises that I have distilled from about 100 of such exercises. Plus plenty of question and answer time about everything Flying Phoenix. For starters, here is a video clip of the group last Saturday morning doing Bending the Bows at an excellent practice speed. One attendee, Spencer (in the red Napa Valley t-shirt) was doing BTB at a rate of one round every 5 minutes with very good form. Just excellent! Watch this clip carefully and practice to it if you wish to improve your practice of BTB: Also viewable at: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health-236579434951/posts/?ref=page_internal (Scroll down to post stamped July 31 at 8:04 am) More workshop video clips follow below for your reference in training. Sifu Terry Dunn http://www.eastover.com/workshop/flying-phoenix-qigong-with-master-terence-dunn.html www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

H abdahorn, As Earl Grey explained, for years (since 2004, actually), interested people around the world have had no problem receiving the Flying Phoenix Qigong instructional DVD's ordered from my website, www.taichimania.com. Thanks for your interest. Regards, Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

To the Flying Phoenix Qigong community: Just three days (!!!) until my 3-day, 20-hour immersive Flying Phoenix Qigong workshop at the beautiful Eastover Estate and Retreat in Lenox, MA. Eastover is an elegant Gilded Age mansion with 24 buildings placed on 600 acres in the beautiful Berkshires that was recently renovated into an affordable 5-star hotel and spa (with beautiful studios and training halls) that is uniquely focussed on Chinese holistic health practices by its visionary owner, Ying-xing Wang. A second 3-day workshop begins August 29. This is the registration page for these workshops at Eastover: www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html As you have already discovered for yourself through use of my Chi Kung For Health DVD series, every Flying Phoenix Qigong Meditation is synergistic with all the others. The energy cultivated by any combination of the Flying Phoenix exercises is tangible, cumulative, transformative, and lasting. And there is nothing like immersive practice of 7 to 8 hours per day times three days (approx. 22 hours) to deeply establish the sublimely rejuvenating Flying Phoenix healing blue energy reserve in one’s being. The tuition for either of the workshops is only $240--the same cost as a one-hour private lesson with yours truly, either online or in-person. So instead of getting one hour of instruction, one gets 20+ hours of guided training and expert corrections and learns all the material in Volumes 1 through 4 of my DVD series, including the capstone Flying Phoenix Long Form Standing Meditation as taught on Vol.4. Join others from all over the world in perfecting their Flying Phoenix Qigong practice during the high season in the Berkshires while enjoying Eastover's fine amenities and exploring the rich arts, music and cultural offerings of Lenox and Stockbridge--the home of James Taylor and Arlo Guthrie! Not to mention Tanglewood (summer home of the Boston Symphony) plus the historic Jacob's Pillow Dance venue. Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi Taoguy, Answer is simple and stated here many times before. But nor problem I don't mind restating it: does this mean that it doesn't matter what the conscious mind does? YES. ONCE YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE BREATH CONTROL SEQUENCE AND HAVE ASSUMED THE POSTURE AND/OR ARE DOING THE MOVEMENTS OF THE FP MEDITATION, YOUR CONSCIOUS MIND CAN BE ANYWHERE DOING ANYTHING...AND YOU WILL STILL GET THE SAME LEVEL OF HEALTH BENEFITS. Should I just do nothing? YOU SHOULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO! Try to enjoy your practice. Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

I had an absolute blast teaching 3 sessions of Flying Phoenix Qigong and one of Tai Chi Chuan at the Medical Qigong and Eastern Medicine Symposium at Eastover Estate & Retreat, Lenox, MA last 2 weeks ago June 27-30 Wed.--aka, "meetings with remarkable men (and women)" such as Master Li Junfeng, former coach of China's National Wushu Team for a decade and master of Ba Gua Zhang & Sheng Zhen Healing Qigong and other arts [in first photo in black shirt] (who also, btw, trained Donnie Yen when his mother, Master Bow Sim Mark, shipped him off to China in 1981, I recall) , the prolific Wushu Master Jianye Jiang (Yellow tshirt), Empty Vessel-- Journal of Contemporary Taoism editor Solala Towler, herbalist Jampa Stewart, women's qigong expert Daisy Lee, and intutive healer Dame Lee Wai Ching. My presentations of FP Qigong went super-sublime, as the Flying Phoenix fliew far, very far. A DEAL LIKE NO OTHER: Be sure to come to this gloriously beautiful retreat center in the Berkshires for my two upcoming three-day residential retreats, from July 27-30 and from August 29 to September 1 this year to advance your FP Qigong practice a quantum level. The workshop provides immersive, 8 hours of Flying Phoenix Meditation instruction per day times three days, which amounts to approximately 24 hours of FP Meditation practice. And all for the very affordable, rock-bottom tuition fee of $240 for the workshop. (My private lesson fee in-person and online for FP Qigong is now $240 per hour. [Very lucky are those online and in-person private students who started with me when my fee was 25% less and unchanged for some 15 years.] So for the same price of getting 1 hour of my private FP Qigong instruction, at these workshops you will receive 24 hours of training and invaluable form corrections, plus demonstrations of healing with the FP Energy. http://www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html Be there or be square in missing out on 24 hours of FP Qigong training, thereby remaining less-than-optimally infused--or uninfused--with the Flying Phoenix Healing Qi! Sifu Terence Dunn P.S. Photos below are of the wonderful Master Li Junfeng, former head coach of China's national Wushu Team in the 1970's and 80's and master of Bagua, Sheng Zhen Qigong and other arts; the very proflific Master Jianye Jiang based in Albany NY, Taoist author and editor of "The Empty Vessel, Journal of Contemporary Taoism" Solala Towler, and a group of other fellow presenters at the Medical Qigong Symposium at Eastover--herbalist/Tai Chi/Qigong teacher Jampa Stewart, Women's "Radiant Lotus Qigong" Instructor Daisy Lee, and energy healer Dame Wai Ching Li.

Hello SeekerOfHealing, I am based in Los Angeles but will be spending some time in Lenox, MA teaching workshops in FP Qigong as detailed in the above post. And I will be leading more workshops in the future. If you cannot attend a workshop or come to L.A. to train, I have also been teaching FP Qigong and the foundations of other healing and martial arts via private online tutorials using Skype and Facetime. Send PM to me if you are interested. My outside email address is [email protected] Thanks for your interest and inquiry. Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

To the Flying Phoenix Qigong Community: NOT TO BE MISSED! Only two weeks until the Flying Phoenix Celestial Healing Qigong workshop at the beautiful Eastover Estate and Retreat in Lenox, MA--from July 27 to 30. Eastover is a newly renovated 85-year old Gilded Age estate on 600 acres in the Berkshires, now dedicated to Chinese holistic health practices. This will be the first time I am teaching a residential Flying Phoenix Qigong retreat outside of California in 20 years! The last residential workshop was September 1997 at the Benedictine Center of St. Paul! (Reason known by those closest to me). What better way to enjoy the high season in the Berkshires than in deep immersive practice (8 hours per day for three days of Flying Phoenix Qigong!). Get all the form corrections that you can possibly absorb during this intensive and you will be well on your way to mastering the first level of Flying Phoenix Qigong. The tuition for these 3-day retreat providing a total of 24 hours of immersive FP Qigong training is only $240. (btw, that's how much one would pay for an online tutorial with me lasting 1 hour and 5 minutes!). REGISTER TODAY: http://www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

I want to take a break from answering questions and discussing Flying Phoenix Qigong practice and its effects for a second to recommend one of the best movies on human potential made in decades--if not ever made: "Use weapon." "Louise has weapon that breaks time." -- "Abbott", the heptapod alien I so thoroughly enjoyed Denis Villeneuve's beautiful film, "Arrival", during a flight out east two weeks ago to present at a medical Qigong symposium in Lenox, MA that as soon as i got back to town yesterday, I viewed a few of the Youtube reviews and explanations of this brilliantly crafted, non-linear story. Here is the best summary of the story that I found, imho, which happens to be one of the lesser-viewed reviews, ironically. (Warning--plenty of spoilers in this video. So don't view if you haven't seen this yet). I found the film most inspiring in so many ways. First as a teacher of several systems of Qigong and Chinese meditative arts, I know that "the weapon that Louise has that breaks time" is not science fiction at all but an intrinsic, fundamental human potential that can be activated and developed through yogic training. Also, as a life-long repetitive reader and student of Alfred J. Korzybsky's 2,000 page tome on general semantics, "Science and Sanity" (which is the study of language on physiology), I just ate the linguistic underpinnings of this story up: that the language we speak upholds the reality that we see and experience. After she learns from the aliens through their language how to time travel, the story's heroine, "Louise Banks" played by Amy Adams, exercises her free will to a most dramatic extent in a number of ways. There also were several key nuances of the story that I failed to pick up or think through--such as the huge, huge sacrifice that the alien heptapod "Abbott" decides to make in order to save Amy Adams' character and Jeremy Renner's character in order to complete the aliens' beneficent mission. Writer Eric Heisserer in this video explains how the aliens' lifespan is vast, spanning millenia and that the death of one of them is significant to an extreme. Anyway, imao, "Arrival" is the best sci-fi movie made in decades, which turns the genre on its ear and sublimally schools the viewer that all of humankind has the potential to fold time--time being a linguistic construct that keeps the species generally in ignor-ance of--and effectively blind to--the Infinite Event. While I teach Chinese alchemy such as FP Qigong and Tao Tan Pai Kung Fu, I am a spiritualist only on rare occasions--when I am contacted by spirits on supramundane planes. Thus in the last 20 years I have time-travelled only on rare occasions--when I practiced certain Tao Tan Pai, Ehrmeishan White Tiger and Flying Phoenix meditations or when there was an urgent necessity. But I remember that I frequently fell face-first onto the Akashic record during my early training years in Tao Tan Pai nei kung-- which were very exciting-- from the late 70's through the early 1980's) and also did lots of scrying--especially after my colleagues and I at the Taoist Sanctuary in Los Angeles made marvelous use of a "press-bench"-- after this rather mysterious piece of yogic furniture was delivered to our doorstep by a very, very psychic chiropractor and we figured out how to use it. In contrast to my very seldomly slipping into a time-folding mode these days--now only once in a blue moon: I have one full-time spiritualist friend who regularly folds time in his holy service work. Like day in and day out. Apart from my mentor in alchemy and all supramundane phenomena, I have an old Tai Chi student whose mother started out as a hobbyist in western hermetic philosophy and was naturally so good at reading tarot that her teacher at a class at the community college ultimately tapped her as her successor...which she refused at first because she she didn't want to have the responsibility of informing clients--and others designated by the Universe--exactly when their loved ones were to die. This, btw, is exactly one of the types of knowledge that Louise in "Arrival" had to learn how to use. But my friend's mother eventually overcame her fears of doing her Karma Yoga and just did it. Anyone else experience or sense the movie "Arrival" as a spiritual catalyst? Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello Cihan, Thank you for sharing your experiences of FP Qigong exercises and other non-FP Meditation under extreme conditions of heat and humidity. I just returned from a medical qigong symposium at the Eastover Estate & Retreat in western Massachusetts where the weather was warm and humid, and I felt similar cooling-drying out of one's internal environment such that one did not perspire as much. Because FP Qigong and the other Bok Fu Pai internal arts induce allostasis, that is why I believe the body adapts optimally and perfectly to environmental stressors such as heat and humidity, and during wintertime, severe cold and dryness. Another moving non FPCK med of the Doo Family literally builds up a different climate around which I never experienced before, quite amazing... The big--really big--and very rare Nei Kung system that GM Doo Wai also taught me (and two other classmates) called "10,000 Buddhas Ascend to Heaven" (10,000 Buddhas' Meditation for short)--consisting of 54 Meditations-- generates a different climate around oneself that is different from the FP Qigong blue aura/electric field. It is palpable and people feel it instantly the moment the practitioner enters a room. And they feel it without the practitioner having to consciously project or extend one's energy field using shen. Profound and remarkable. Happy Practicing! Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

H TaoGuy, If you can assume the full-lotus position, then by all means use it. Half-lotus lotus is sufficient and is the posture that GM Doo Wai taught my peers and myself to use as well as to his more students in the 1990's who helped him teach us. Good practicing. Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello Pitisukha, I'm very sorry to hear about your father's dire state of health and that he is under unbearable pain. This is my answer to your question: While I don't consider it an ideal setting for practicing FP Qigong, if you are already well-practiced in FP Qigong and if you are keeping a constant vigil over your father and cannot leave or do not want to leave his bedside and want to rejuvenate yourself during your vigil, then I think it is generally safe to practice FP Qigong. However, bear in mind that there is a general admonition in the Qigong world that one should not practice the art when one is emotionally distraught, upset, morose, or depressed. If you are clear, it is fine to use FP Qigong to help you keep vigil. But much depends on your long relationship with our father, (your karma with him), and if there is any unfinished business. Also, if one is a theist, it is customary to pray over the dying loved one. When I was at my father's bedside during his final hours, practicing Qigong was the farthest thing from my mind--and I had complete closure on every known issue with him. Again, I am very sorry to hear that your father is on the verge of passing. May he pass in peace. Sincerely, Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello LL, Good to wonder. I'm glad to answer your questions the best that I can. You said that the yogic, healing, martial, or spiritual practice can lead to enlightenment. Yes, any practice under a true teacher can lead to enlightenment. Is enlightenment different from immortality? Yes, very different, but with a little overlap. Michael Winn explains that the Kan & Li meditations he teaches through the Healing Tao can lead to immortality by integrating/harmonizing the shen so that they don`t separate in different directions after death. (Or at least this is my current understanding of what he`s said.) Can the Flying Phoenix meditations you teach do something similar? I don't believe that Mr. Winn is speaking from any type of experience in talking about "the shen splitting in different directions after death." His wording, if you are citing it correctly, doesn't make sense to me: Also, you wrote "integrating/harmonizing the shen"--as if shen needs to be "integrated." And then later you refer to shen in the plural: "so that they don't separate, etc." If you have correctly recited that passage from a Michael Winn talk or writing, I must say, quite candidly, that that sounds like totally confused gobblety gook to me. I am not acquainted with Michael Winn. But I happen to be pretty good and old friends with his brother, David, who was two years ahead of me at a small eastern college and one year ahead of me at the same Harvard graduate school. And I happen to be very good and old friends with David's wife, Julie Sullivan, who was my college classmate, and who, being a Chinese Studies major in college and fluent in Chinese with strong life-long interest in Chinese culture, has never had--to the best of my knowledge--flattering things to say about her brother-in-law's way of teaching or rendering Taoist arts. So to answer your question, Flying Phoenix Qigong most certainly does NOT have an effect similar to that which you described, because the effect that you described does not in my yogic experience or imagination, have any value in the evolution of one's eternal soul on either the earthly or heavenly planes. But FP Qigong, as attested to over the last 8.5 years of this thead by hundreds of people, will improve your health, t make you stronger and more functional in every way, transform your way of seeing and experiencing the world, by cleansing all the human doors of perception--internal and external doors, and give you an experiential foundation for understanding all yogas and meditative paths--and in rather short order, I must say. **See the recent post by "Cihan" on 6/11/2017 at 0:15 AM, which I just commented on (above). ** One very accessible Chinese semantic structure translated to English is Wilhelm's or Cleary's translations of "The Secret of the Golden Flower". The spirit of the physically deceased will rise as a shen or enlightened spirit, or it will sink and become earthbound or hellbound as a "guei", or negative ghost. If one's "shen is separating in different directions after death" that sounds like that persons' disembodied spirit is in trapped in Hell's Cuisinart and Satan has turned it on "High". I suggest reading "The Secret of the Golden Flower" to ground yourself in basic Taoist yogic and spiritual concepts terminology, so that when you do experience the supramundane, you won't be confused or lost because you're using a map that doesn't fit the territory. The Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung that I teach has a complete system of shen-gung within it. As does many other Nei Kung traditions, including Bok Fu Pai and 8 Sections of Energy Combined. But training one's shen-qi--or for that matter, one's qing-qi--does NOT mean automatic immortality. Nor does training in any practice or Yoga alone, not matter how authentic, guarantee the attainment of enlightenment and training alone certainly not guarantee immortality of the spirit. The later depends on one's karma and whether one has the strength to take spiritual guidance when it comes and make the necessary sacrifices to do one's karma-yoga (Works) to ultimately fulfill one's spiritual destiny. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Book of James 2:14-26 (KJV) Similarly, seeking vitality and longevity and "immortality" without Works is also dead. Which is why the great philosopher Mencius frowned upon the obsession with seeking immortality gone to incredible extremes, and wrote, and I have quoted him here often: "DO NOT SEEK IN YOUR VITALITY (EXERCISES) WHAT YOU DO NOT FIND IN YOUR HEART." Hint: for beginners, one easy way to start understanding what "Immortality" means--as cultivated in Taoism-- is by reading about the path, powers and works of the 8 Taoist Immortals or Saints. And btw, Lu Tung Pin (Lu Deng Bin in pinyin), the leader of the 8 Taoist Immortals in Chinese folklore and Taoist iconography, is the reputed founder of Tao Tan Pai tradition. What`s the best way to get started? If I decide to give this a try, I could see myself being able to devote an hour a day to begin with and going from there. Maybe buy the first two DVDs, basic standing and basic sitting? Or what would you suggest? If you are southern California: (A) Best way to get started is come to my classes that each both Tai Chi and FP Qigong. (B) Second best: buy the first 3 DVDs. Most everybody starts FP Qigong by doing both the standing (Vol.1) and seated (Vol.2) meditations. Then practice hard and post questions to this community to get good guidance. All Best Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello Cihan, Thank you for chiming in with your good information and clarification of the "complete breaths between the percentage exhalations." I love your term "Password" for each FP Meditation's specific breath-control sequence. If you don't mind, I will be using that occasionally from now on! And thank you for your foreshadowing and helpful warning about practicing other Bok Fu Pai Meditations demonstrated by GM Doo Wai on Youtube and other DVD programs. As I've stated several times in this thread, the FP Qigong is the "health safety net" of the Bok Fu Pai system and the very first thing that GM Doo Wai was taught as a child. As most practitioiners have discovered after doing Vols. 1 and 2, this art is very safe and almost foolproof, so that one can practice it and get good results without having a Qigong master standing over you as you practice. Cihan, the following is a very helpful heads-up for all who want to practice other Bok Fu Pai meds, but I advise everyoe who wish to do so to first complete the first level of the Flying Phoenix system (on Vols. 1 through 5, and ideally Vol. 7 as well). Then one will be fully established in FP Qigong and cultivated enough so that you should be able to weather any stray or accidental energy effects gotten from practicing from the Youtube demonstration programs--with no disrespect whatsoever to my teacher. Effects and feels of FPCK is extremely gentle, and with all respect, GMDW does not show much charisma while demonstrating other forms on Youtube and also Dvds. This is a fool's barrier. Of the ones I practice ,there is a nine mudra static meditation called "pushing ging", and also two moving meds in the expensive "energy" Dvd, which flood you with an additional WoW! factor and literally dazzling inner light. You are on your own on these meds and there is no another Sifu Terry, and if someone -out there- do not clip most of their psychic effects after a few practices like it happened to me, you might feel really alone on uncharted waters without enough experience and mental configuration of prior exercising. Thanks again. Best. Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hi Phil48, It's OK to do reverse breathing while doing FP Qigong if your body naturally snaps into doing that. As long as the breathing is naturally and not forced in any way, go ahead and do it. btw, just to make sure we ae speaking the same language, please describe the "reverse breathing" that you are doing and, also, if you care to, how you learned or developed it. Thanks. Sifu Terry Dunn