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Hello vivejki108, It is very safe to learn and practice the FP Qigong system as taught on the 6 volumes of the Chi Kung For Health dvd series. If it were not safe, I would never have published the dvd's in 2003 or the videos on VHS back in 1994! So far, no ill-effects, injuries or anything of the sort reported--not just on this thread of 4.5 years, but throughout my 23 years of teaching FP Qigong in Los Angeles and in workshops at various times across the country. Also, if you read my postings in the first couple of years of this thread, you will find my discussion of how very safe, self-contained, and almost fool-proof the FP Qigong system is. Bottom-line: it really takes special talent to screw-up these exercises to cause oneself harm! Of course, guidance (form correction, primarily) from an instructor like myself will accelerate one's progress and development in this art. And towards that end, I have been giving private online tutorials on FP Qigong via Skype and FaceTime for about a year now, with very good results, as per the on lie students' postings. (Please ontact me through PM if you are interested in online lessons.) Thanks for your question and providing the opportunity to reiterate this safety quality about the Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation (Fei Feng Sunn Gung) system. Regards, Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Thamosh, No, the Flying Phoenix Qigong is not dependent on nor sensitive to the positions of the sun (to the extent that I was taught the system by GM Doo Wai). Although the one basic standing meditation in the Volume One DVD, "Monk Gazing At the Moon" naturally suggests that its practice can be done in view of the moon. Sifu Garry Hearfield has inherited several internal systems from our teach GM Doo Wai that are practiced in sync with the positions of the sun and the moon--when one has reached their advanced levels. The blue FP Healing Energy that is visible at some point in one's practice and which also shows up on digital or analog video and film when an advanced practitioner is practicing, has demonstrably profound healing and rejuvenating effects. To generate this healing energy, the practitioner has to have positive, constructive, healing intent rooted in compassion and love of life and humanity. It is that inner predilection that wards off "negative entities"--not necessarily the color of energy. The best way to answer this question is to find out for yourself by practicing the FP Qigong diligently for just a few months! Best, Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hello Fudomyosti, Good work in working up to the point where you are now memorizing Wind Above the Clouds and Wind Through the Treetops. Both are important pillars of the FP Qigong system. Note that the beginning FP Meditations involve a few stationary exercises and that the more advanced FP Meditations (seen in Vols. 3, 4, 5) are all moving meditations. So delving into the moving meditations is sort of a minor benchmark. The buzzing around your C7 that you experience lasting for 30 minutes after your practice is a good sign of healing. As stated throughout the thread to beginners, the FP Qigong system adds absolutely no stress or "negative energy" to the human process--unless one is (1) doing the FP Meditations in a very incorrect manner physically (getting the breathing sequences wrong, doing the movements or postures grossly wrong, and/or mis-matching the breath-control sequences with the various sets of movements) or is (2) doing the FP Qigong with an unhealthy and destructive attitude, mindset, or intent--where one is mentally deranged, in other words. Assuming that none of the above apply to you, I wouldn't be alarmed at the energetic "buzzing" sensation as long as long as it isn't painful. Suggestions: take note of how you feel after the cessation of the prolonged buzzing. Note whether the buzzing occurs each time you practice FP and whether the "buzzing" dampens and decreases in duration and amplitude. (It should also be easy to focus more awareness on this sensation when you practice and afterwards. ) As a side note, for those having practiced FP for a while, are there any "backlashes" of sorts that come up when you start? Old injuries re-occuring or things of the like? My answer: The Flying Phoenix Qigong system activates the body's self-healing process by putting all the organ systems of the body under the regulation of the subconscious mind. This healing process is so gentle and sublime, that no painful "backlash" or dramatic release of deep, time-bound pain typically occurs. (I'm talking about the type of pain that one might experience from getting "deep-tissue" massage work such as Rolfing from some good like Ida Rolf (The originals are always the greatest and most reliable), or other "screaming cures" that have their place in the spectrum of legitimate healing methods.) • Old injuries should will not be exacerbated by practicing FP Qigong unless you have major joint injuries (ankles, knees, hips) that haven't fully healed, making the basic standing FP Exercises of Vols 1-3 very difficult, stressful and painful. In which case, don't do them and consult your physician. Keep us posted on your progress. Best, Sifu Terry Dunn www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hello Aurelian, I'm very glad to hear that you've recently experienced the effects of "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" to be highly energizing and powerful enough to supplant the practice of all previous FP Meditations in Volumes 1 and 2. From noting your past postings on the thread, the videos of your practice you posted, and the questions that posted and when you posted them, it is easy for me to explain that you are feeling dramatic effects from your practice of "Moonbeam" because you have diligently, thoroughly and correctly practiced everything in Vols. 1 and 2 leading up to "Moonbeam"--and performed those with movements at very good slow speeds. (I have one student in L.A. who's been with me for 6+ years now, who is so slow and smooth in his FP practice, that he did the FP system as a beginner better than I did when I was a beginner in '91.) Thus you have a full and fluid (I won't say "solid" because that connotes "stiff") foundation of energy and sound posture and body mechanics to feel the additional effects of "Moonbeam". Every FP Practitioner who works through Volumes 1 to 4 experiences and verifies the fact that the Long Form Standing Meditation of Vol.4 (referred to "Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation" by GM Doo Wai) can subsume the practice of all the FP Qigong meditations in Volumes 1 through 3. Practice of the Vol.4 Standing Meditation ensures good health and strong immunity, and lays the ground for further yogic and spiritual development. But you are the first person on this thread spanning 4.5 years to recognize that "Moonbeam" can also supplant the practice of the Volume One basic standing meditations! So congrats on your good practice! **However, note this distinction: "Moonbeam" can subsume the practice of all the Volume One basic standing FP Meditations. But it cannot supplant or replace the Volume 2 seated "Monk Serves Wine" Meditations. Those basic MSW Meditations refine very specific energy pathways in the upper body and activate brain centers in a more refined process than basic Standing Meds on Vols 1 and 3. Their yogic effects cannot be replaced by "Moonbeam". You are feeling as if they can be subsumed by "Moonbeam" because the the total energy increase generated in your body by "Moonbeam" is so dramatic compared to the more subtle energy cultivation and deeper states of absorption mediated by the MSW Meditations. If you give the 3 MSW meditations on Vol.2 a rest for about 2 months, as you continue to practice "Moonbeam" and the other FP standing Meditations, and then start practicing the Vol.2 MSW meditations again, you will verify what I am saying here. Thanks very much for administering the weekly Friday 12 noon or 1pm PST Flying Phoenix worldwide practice! Best, Sifu Terry www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Hello Aurilien, Sorry I couldn't make practice session last week or yesterday. (I don't know if there was one on 25th. ) I had to work all day both days and couldn't take a break during the practice times. I will make a suggestion for the content of next week's Friday FP practice. But thus far, your agendas thus far have been fine, especially for newcomers. Good work and leadership! Best, Sifu Terry

Hello Cihan, Thanks for your nice post about mental visions occurring before jhanic states (deeper absorption). That is a regular and most pleasant feature of the FP Chi Kung Meditations. And they are unusual because they can happen very soon after one starts practicing the FP system, as you have experienced. My sense is that different FP Meditations will bring on the "Nimittas" for different people. But because, as I have said all along, the effects of each and every FP Chi Kung exercise are cumulative, with persevering practice, one will inevitably reach a point of advanced practice where the practice of any one of the "basic level" of the FP Meditations (those taught in my DVD series) will induce the Nimittas and impart very pleasant, brain-activated, altered states of consciousness I recall that in Year One of the thread, within the first few months after Fu-doggy started it, a subscriber who had just started practicing the FP with the DVDs commented something to the extent of: "Enjoying the FP practice...everything that a great Qigong should be." And I believe he also related how he experienced mental images of Buddhist iconography, which was interesting to him and perplexed him, because he had no interest whatsoever in Buddhism (that he was aware of)! I also explained how while training under GM Doo Wai in the early 1990's, we students not only communicated psychically by sending mental images to one another (at a distance of about 12 miles) but the GM taught us how to do this by having us conduct a controlled experiment that led to each person verifying their remote "reception" of a classmate's mental projection. And I posted in detail that in the same evening following this exercise, while sleeping, I experienced dreams in a way that I had never experienced before--and discovered the next morning that I had exchanged or switched "dream modalities" with my classmate Jeff Roth. (see the Year One post) All these psychical events are in the same "ballpark" or "genre" as the nimittas that you described--only with practice we developed some volitional control over them. High level masters like GM Doo Wai and and the late Share K. Lew had extensive control over their psychic projections. For they could project mental images, thoughts, auditory experiences, and moving mental images (live action scenarios just like a film or video clip) to a person and "plant them" in their mind or nervous system--most easily through the dream state, but also during a persons' waking state. I became acquainted with a variety of each master's very real hocus pocus during my apprenticeships under them. At any rate, enjoy the nimittas! Sifu Terry Dunn

This morning I was short on time so I decided to do a few rounds of Bending the Bows because that was one of the basic standing FP Meditations that I had not done much of in recent months. Once I started, my body liked it so much that it just kept on going...I did a set of 18 repetitions at varying speeds, taking a total of about 25 minutes to complete. At about repetition no. 10, I felt the same total-body energy immersion and also the relatively intense activation of certain brain centers that I always feel when I practice any single FP exercise or combination of FP meditations for about 15 minutes. As I and other FP practitioners have posted in the first 2 years of the thread, these basic FP Standing meditations (and the seated Monk Serves Wine meditations) are not "basic" at all once you've established the complete system in your life. Carry on, you wayward monks! Sifu Terry Dunn P.S. I call you experienced FP practitioners out there "monks" of some unspecified variety and thus far unnamed modern sect because once you've felt the distinctive FP Healing Energy from these Qigong meditations, you are duly initiated--as you have directly experienced a high level of integration of mind and body, the tangible cultivation of the FP Healing Energy, the sublime healing and rejuvenating effects of that energy, and the beginnings of (what is called in western alchemy) the "firing" or the process of purification-of-the-spirit, described in Sanskrit as jhanic states (or deep levels of absorption)--what Prof. Fred Underwood called "the physical component of bliss" and the beginning stages of "touching Nirvana with the body." Thereby (and obviously), a PATH to spiritual development is open to you. Once you have experienced the Mindful-Bodyful, Blissful, All-In-One-Healing states imparted by the FP Qigong and realize that those healthful and profound states are repeatable, refinable, and augmentable by regular practice, you can either expand those states with continuing practice and study, and grow into doing service Work to help humanity by channeling the FP Healing Energy into healing and teaching activities in your life, or you can abandon the practice, ignore those higher states of consciousness, or even defile them within your body. How you walk the PATH (as in Castaneda's "Path with Heart") or whether you walk it at all is totally up to you, your predilection (if one has one), one's karma, and sometimes the hand of Destiny. Of course, a warrior's path with heart is defined as that path on which every step you take makes you stronger. And if one has a warrior's spirit (not necessarily having martial skill or aptitude--for the weapons of war are not carnal), there really is no choice.

Hello Fudomyosti, Welcome to the FP Chi Kung thread. Glad you're feeling definite energy effects (however vague) with your 3+ months of practice. The FP Chi Kung's energy effects will become clearer more pronounced and detailed in terms of parts of the body affected. I can't recall when we had an email exchange. But I look forward to being reminded. Best, Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi Julian, You're welcome. It's totally up to you how much time you commit to practicing the FP Meditations. Just remember the energizing and healing effects are cumulative with all the exercises in the system. As long as you get to cover all of them and practice enough to establish them so as to know each one's specific effects, you'll derive maximum benefit from the FP Qigong System. Yes, non-practitioners can see the visible blue FP healing energy at various times. But not all people and not under all circumstances. From my experience, others are most likely to see the blue aura around a practitioner during his/her FP practice or in the hours following it. When one has mastered the FPCK system like GMDoo Wai, one will see the blue aura anytime the person practices an FP Meditation or does healing work. For beginners, whether others see the FP Energy depends on your level of energy cultivation and awareness, and what you are doing. I've described at various points in the thread that friends have not only seen the FP energy as a blue aura around me, but also experienced a spontaneous transfer of the FP energy from my body to their body accompanied by them literally seeing the blue FP energy within one of their psychic centers (e.g., the third eye). But such occasions, I believe, are unpredictable. They just happen with certain people. Good practicing! Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi Julian, I understand your question. Answer: It depends if you have the time to do all four--or all three--each day. If you have time, sub out one of the first 3 meditations you've been doing with the No.4 Med. If you have the additional time, just add No.4 and then No.5 without substituting out any of the first 3. You can also shorten the time that you practice each of the first 3 since you've been doing them for a good requisite duration in order to add the fourth meditation. Great that you are seeing the blue light. That is an excellent effect for a beginner. Yes, when one first perceives it, the FP Healing Energy is a bright, light, almost flourescent blue. I cannot speak for anyone else, but based on seeing my own aura during FP practice over the years and based on how friends and loved ones saw it on me, and according to how I saw it in GM Doo Wai's aura on a regular basis when I was training with him, the light blue energy darkens or rather deepens gradually over years of practice. As I said early on in the thread, the brightness of the blue is like that of the blue seen in of some the icons on some car dashboards at night. And that light can be seen to transfer to others in a flash during acts of healing and other compassionate actions. That is the fun and "magickal" part of working with the FP Energy. And yes, what you are seeing is most definitely the FP healing energy. There is no other Yoga that I know of or have heard of that cultivates this color of visible energy. And for that matter, not too many Yogas--at least taught here commercially in the U.S.--create a visible anything. That bright blue is seen in a lot of Tibetan art and in some Chinese and Indian spiritual artworks, right? Good job. You're doing great, Julian! Keep us posted of your progress! Best, Sifu Terry Dunn

This is a belated post: Last Saturday, after teaching my regular public Tai Chi class, I practiced the following sequence of meditations at the same location--and attained a level of allostasis accompanied by an altered state of consciousness of mental quiescence and oneness-of-energy-being that I had never attained before: 1. Tao Tan Pai 5 Dragons meditation (40 min.) 2. Red Lotus Flying Phoenix seated meditation No.1 3. the 22-movement Flying Phoenix seated meditation (the longest of the Monk Serves Wine series) 4. Monk Serves Wine No.2 (50 40 30 10) full set of 7 repetitions (Vol.2). 5. An advanced and unpublished Monk Serves Wine seated meditation with breathing sequence 70 50 40 30 20 10 (7 reps) 6. Another advanced and unpublished MSW seated meditation with breathing sequence 50 60 80 10, which begins with a massaging of the abdomen with the palms, alternating left and right four times. This is to encourage and motivate all practitioners who have been doing the system for 2 years or longer to cover all the Flying Phoenix Qigong materials in "Level One" as taught on the DVD series--by letting all know that there is much, much more beyond what I teach in the DVD series--and to discourage all from limiting themselves to their "favorite" exercises. For with persevering practice, all the FP Qigong exercises become favorites. In other words, let's get on with!!! I'm still waiting to read about and then see--either in person or through online Skype/Facetime sessions--practitioners reporting the progressive effects and benefits of "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" and the Standing Long Form Meditation of Volume 4 ("FPHHCM"). Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi Thamosh, My responses to your statements and questions are below in blue: as soon as he grabbed it I heard the wind from it even from small movements. Yes, that the type of sound made by his weapons work--made by even small or tiny movements--is a sign of a kung fu master. If you practice punching from a good distance at a lit candle for enough years--which is a training exercise I favor and strongly advocate, and have practiced myself for 40 yrs, btw-- you will know that the sound of the "wind" made by a kung fu master's chuan fa (i.e., hands) is not the wind. It is the chi. He told me part of it is to keep up the tradition, for physical exercise, and that weapons gives us a chance to further express and refine the li and ging. That is true in all traditional kung fu systems. And especially in the "internal schools". In Tai Chi Chuan, sword practice is said to cause the chi to permeate the bone marrow with profound transformative effects. So from your reply on the 8 sections combined I can tell that it would lead to high level refinement of the li and ging of the practitioner. As stated in Year One of this thread when I described "8 Sections Combined" to Sifu Hearfield, this art consists of 8 very elaborate internal kung fu forms and a complete body of preparatory exercises and 5 neikung exercises. Each of the 8 Sections cultivates a different type of jing, or ging. The first and the seventh Sections cultivate the Li as well. the rest in my opinion, cultivate a martial chi. My question about the FP weapons was to see if you teach FP not only as a medical qigong but also as a martial art. I only teaching the FP Chi Kung as a pure healing art. I am still practicing the Advanced FP Meditations as a martial art. When I feel I have mastered it sufficiently, or when GM Doo Wai, Chinese physical culture, or the Universe acknowledges that I have attained mastery, I may start teaching the FP martial art. But the FP Healing Art is incredibly advanced and sophisticated--even though I refer to it as a "basic level" relative to all other Qigong systems that have the name, "Flying Phoenix." Being such a gong fu enthusiast I was wondering if there was a FP fist and what it would look like. "The FP fist" or FP martiala art starts with 9 Advanced standing FP Meditations. The energy generated from this level of FP training builds upon the basic level of the healng Qigong exercises (in Volumes 1-5, and 7), but it is a completely different flavor of energy that definitely martial in nature and function. Sifu Hearfield and I, when we first saw the Advanced FP Meditations, we both agreed that it was a "spiritual martial art" or "san da" system. As I said many times on this thread, the FP Healing energy cultivated by the "basic level" as taught on my Chi Kung For Health dvd series, is a pure healing energy-light, sublime, penetrating, tangible, with a visible light-but-deep-blue (<<--almost like this) color, and that spontaneously targets disease, illness and energy weakness on its own--that cannot be used for martil art. Sorry for all the questions im just trying to get a handle on this. No problem, I don't mind describing the major difference between the "basic level" of FP Qigong which cultivates a complete and purely healing energy, and the Advanced FP Qigong system that is a spiritual martial art. Im going thru my own legal battle as well as I built a dot.com and got the company profitable and then was removed from the project. Sorry to hear about this. I hope you had a good contract in place when this happened and that you have legal recourse. If you do have recourse, I hope you can get a very good lawyer. Regards, Sifu Terry Dunn

Hello Thamosh, Here are answers to your questions: 1.) No, I am not presently accepting indoor students. Not that I don’t want to but--because my present business obligations are so extremely time-consuming that I cannot teach more than I am presently teaching—at least for the next year. But down the road, the answer is "yes." 2.) 10,000 Buddhas Meditation is a high-level set of Qigong or health and martial power. There are 54 Meditations. Most of them moving mediations and most of them are standing. I do not teach this art to beginners--but only to my advanced students. 3.) I described 8 Sections of Energy Combined in the thread to Sifu Hearfield. It is a rare and legendary martial art that cultivates and delivers a martial energy that can be conducted through natural fibers such as wood and cloth. It is the skill that the director of the movie, "Once Upon A Time in China, Part 2" alluded to through some of Jet Li's scenes in which his character duels or fights with Donnie Yen's character. 4.) The FP Heavenly Healing Qigong system the way I was taught it does not have weapons. But within the White Tiger Kung Fu system, there are weapons forms that incorporate the name "Flying Phoenix". Sifu Hearfield knows an FP Sword set. 5.) No, no further news or developments re the 690 Meds. Tao Stillness has a copy, I recall, but I have not seen it. Having not seen it, I cannot tell if it's the same material that Sifu Hearfield showed me, which we both agreed was something purposely ginned up by GMDW to misdirect and we suspect “punish” some especially wayward student. Thanks for your inquiry. Sifu Terry Dunn

Good regimen, Aurelien. Thank you. See you all in the Phoenix's flight path later today!! Sifu Terry

Reminder to all FP practitioners: Worldwide group practice is later today, Friday, at 12 noon PST. organized by "oreocookie". Many thanks, Aurelien! Also I just now caught up on my backlog of unanswered PM's, almost all interested in private online tutorials on FPCK and also Tao Tan Pai neigung and kung fu. My apologies for my late replies, but I am thrilled to be able to teach you through Skype and Facetime. A wonderful facilitation of our art by technology. Anyone interested in online tutorials in FP Qigong for starters, please contact me by PM here (I promise to check my inbox ore frequently), or contact me at [email protected] and put "FPCK online session" or something thereabouts on the Subject line. Tomorrow after the 12PM 1-hour session, I will be working with "Mellow Marques". Looking forward to it. All Best, Sifu Terry P.S. And this is the order of practice, nicely laid out by Aurelien: Friday the 21th March at 12-13 PST there will be another group session, we're going to stick to the same sequence of meditations: 1. Bending the bows 70 50 40 30 10 (15 min) 2. Monk holding the peach 90 50 40 20 10 (15 min) 3. Sitting warm up (5 60 80 40 30) (5 min) 4. MSW1 (90 50 40 30 10)

Hi mYthMaker, Thanks for directing Cat to find me on FB. As per my posting, my website for the Chi Kung For Health dvd series is back online now. Also please visit my FB product page, with lots of my favorite postings on Chinese internal arts, https://www.facebook.com/pages/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health/236579434951?ref=br_tf --and my new (but not too populated) Ancient Qigong page: https://www.facebook.com/ancientqigong?ref=br_tf Best, Sifu Terry

Hi Charlie, I'm glad to hear that you just now got the hit of the FP Energy from the set of 5 short meditations on Volume 5. Each person "groks" the Volume 5 meditations at their own appointed time--depending on how much of the "basic" FP Meditations (Vols 1-4) they have practiced and how well they've been established. That's why I classified them as advanced--they require the preceding exercises in the dvd series as a foundation. But they are most elegant in that their energy effects are, as you described, "intense and satisfying"! Yes, and Yee-hah. Otherwise, most people feel zilch from them. Now there are some persons who are naturally fluid and sensitive in terms of their internal energy. I had one young Tai Chi student in 2002-2003 who had not done much of the basic level of the FP system...and I just happen to have inserted the Vol.5 Meds. in the middle of the Yang Tai Chi practice to see everyone's reaction. When we resumed the Yang Long Form and the class did the transition near the start of Part 2 of the Yang Long Form: Grasp the Birds Tail to Fist Under Elbow, I saw the kids' energy light up and his eyes widen in surprise and profound bliss. That was the outcome of this particular teacher's constructive, mildly mischievous, and joyful experiment. Charlie, since you have deep Tai Chi background, try interspersing the Vol.5 Meds. in your Tai Chi form practice. You might find it fun and enjoyable. And btw, they are 90 second meditations. You can stretch them out to 2-3 min. but I just double-checked a few of them: you can do each one in 90 seconds (including the breathing sequence) and still get maximum energizing (and other, hee hee ) effects. Enjoy-Enjoy this marvelous practice. Not too much is out there that is this easy, self-contained, safe, almost fool-proof, and yet is this powerful and sublimely healing. (FP Practitioners out there who have gotten through Vols 1 to 5 or 1 to 7: please chime in and give your assessment/critique...let me know if you agree or not. ) Best, Sifu Terry

Hi Cat, Sorry about that...my website was down for most of today for minor renovation. It's now back up and running normal. Go to: http://taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html Thanks for your interest in Flying Phoenix. Best, Sifu Terry Dunn

Hi Sihing Garry, Always good to see your greetings and postings. All is well with practicing and teaching. Thanks for posting your excellent performance of Sunn Yee Gong's "White Tiger Heavenly Healing Methods" to compare and contrast it with FP Qigong. Your meditation is quite complex relative to most of the FP system and is comparable to the capstone Advanced Long Form Standing Med. of FPCK (on Volume 4 of DVD series). Will fill you through back channel on business doings. All Best, Sihing Terry

Aurelien, You're welcome. As I said, you are doing very well. Just continue with this level of diligence and your progress will continue nicely and you don't have to worry about accelerating your progress. That will happen with the way that you're practicing at present. But, again, make sure that your posture and movements are balanced and symmetrical. That type of self-correction I don't think will be any problem for you. Yes, I'm fully equipped to give online FP tutorials via Skype or Facetime. Let me know whenever you want to do one. Best, Sifu Terry

"Intensive Chi Kung practitioner" does not understand at all what I said and what I meant:Not to be argumentative, but I must make a distinction here to inform FPCK subscribers how deep the secrets of Qigong are and how secretly they are kept. "Intensive Chi Kung practitioner" does not understand that "stance was obvious a Zhan Zhuang position" does not mean anything to me because within any Wuchi or Zhan Zhuan position there are nuances as to how one evenly weights (stands on) each foot, the degree to which the knees are bent, and the degree to which he INNER THIGH MUSCLES are contracted or relaxed relative to movement of the upper body which are motivated by movement of the lower and upper ribs--and not in unison, BTW!!! --Not to mention what is done or not done with the toes. That is only the tip of the iceberg of what is NOT SEEN. As I think I stated in Year One of this thread, the secret of footwork (not just the "type"of stance) is hidden by traditional Chinese martial arts garb: baggy trousers with overhanging long jackets. Why do you think masters continue to wear such ancient styles to this day? If there wasn't a function to them, they would be wearing Prada, Gucci, and Paul Smith. Similarly, "sunken chi to the lower tan tien" is not anything close to what I meant or mean by "breathing method." Sunken chi to the lower tan tien can be said to be normal to more than 300 styles of Kung Fu and Qigong. What I said is not seen IS NOT SEEN nor intuited unless one is a high-level master on the level of GM Doo Wai, the GM Share K. Lew (who could tell whether a man did northern or southern kung fu just by watching him take a few steps), Sifu Garry Hearfield's late YKM master, my LHBF teacher, or the senior students of Prof. Cheng Man-Ching--all of them grandmasters in their 80's or older,such as my friend, the great GM William C.C. Chen. I just wanted to reiterate here that secrets in Chinese internal arts are kept very well within each of the traditions. And if one wrongly thinks that they understand what is being hidden, then one will never know what to look for in their teacher nor what questions to ask. Sifu Terry Dunn

To all FP meditators doing the Fiday group practice worldwide: Sorry I missed today's practice: I had to some vehicle repairs to tend to. I should be able to participate in future sessions. Sifu Terry

Aurelian, My comments on your MSW #1 practice on the posted video: A. Speed is excellent...slow enough; movements are even and smooth. B. Posture is OK. Relaxation OK. C. Correction #1: As you noticed and posted: You start with your torso turned to your right slightly so that your arms and hands are not symmetrically even with your centerline, but slightly skewed to your right. D. Correction #2: When you extend the arms and bring the palms forward with fingers pointing upward, your left palm is lower than your right. E. Then near the end, when you bring your arms downward from overhead, you straighten out your torso and finish with your torso squared to the front (correct). F. Correction #3: bend your wrists more so they both evenly face outward as you raise the arms and as you lower them part way until they turn to face inward the upward in the final position at the tan tien. G Correction #4: As you also described: your hands with outfacing palms are not even until you bring them down. None of these form flaws are serious. They're simply peccadilloes that can be easily corrected. The easiest way to correct them is to do them in front of the mirror and set a timer to ring you to open your eyes every 10 or 15 seconds or so as you do the MSW Meditation. Or simply do the entire meditation round with eyes open (without doing the breathing) until you train yourself to do the movements symmetrically as per my observations above. Very well done given how long you have doing FPCK, Aurelian! Sifu Terry Dunn P.S. BTW, practitioners get the same quality of corrections and much more during online private FP tutorials that I give via Skype or Facetime. Feel free to contact me here thru members' messaging or at [email protected] for details and to schedule. www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

Interesting Qigong. I've seen just one other Wudang Hunyuan Qigong exercise before. Except for the vigorous fisting, the movements are contained in many qigong systems (including Abvanced FP)-- but it's the order, continuity and focus which makes each system unique--plus, most importantly of all, what's NOT seen: stance/footwork and breathing method!!!

Aurelian, Nice job on organizing the FP Meditation! And nice choice of starting meditations. I can tell from your choice of the meds. that you've been practicing them quite thoroughly. I was late for the session because of a meeting that e Ran late thie AM but I joined the session at 12:30 PST. Next time, I would be good to get the geographical location of each participant and put that on a list. Will explain later. Good practicing!! Sifu Terry Dunn