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gosh, you know, sean... I hate to say it because for some reason we have been at odds since firstt interaction.. but that is a load of bullshit. spirituality is one thing. culture is another. If one pollutes the other, I see corruption. true spiritualism TRANSCENDS culture. What did jesus say about tradition? what does the taoist canon the 'tao te ching' have to say about such things as tradition? what do you think lao tzu would say about 'culture'? I have always had a real deep appreciation for eastern spirituality.. It is so great.. but for eastern culture *outside* of their spiritual practice? ewww. (especially the japanese....heh)... I may not be the most humble, but I am certainly not proud. As for this 'false sense of entitlement' you are hooked on.. I don't understand how you come to this conclusion? I personally have never demanded anyone to be my teacher or anything. (or perhaps you refer to the fact that people abhor the tendency to keep things secret? Not only to keep things secret.. but to hide such things under the guise of our 'well-being'...? you cannot deny that this can be easily percieved as nothing but.. despicable elitism?) Don't be offended by my rash postings, sean. A wizard should now better than that.
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wow that's super cool! I wonder what the book is like...? Is it like 'secret of the golden flower'? you know I heard the chinese execute more people than the rest of the world combined.. that they derive confessions from torture... It was suggested by sky news that they do this for organs.. to fuel their booming organ market. A defense attorney that spoke with the british press was taken a couple weeks later, and never heard from again. china seems pretty fucked =\ where are all the enlightened dudes...? Not enough of them =(
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Lets Bat It Around Again-what Is Enlightenment
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OMG LMAO @ LOZEN Those creepy old men are the worst, huh?? I bet he was like 80 and used a walker! Did he stick his tongue out inbetween words LOL! I think I would like to do that when I am too old, too! That and shit my pants in public, 'oops, sorry, that was me. I shit my pants' I just watched office space =) that movie is cool. The guy is 'hypnotized'.. told to melt away all of his worry, concern, inhibitions, anxiety whatever... and before the hypnotist can manage to bring him back to 'normal'.. he dies. So the dude stops showing up to work.wears flip-flops when he does come in... I used to think this was enlightenment. Now.. I just think it is zen. I am also reminded of the father in 'american beauty'... and, of course, tyler durden from 'fight club'... All great practitioners of what (I) call zen... ...but enlightenment is so much more. BUDDHA was enlightened. not the kevin spacey's character in american beauty. -
oh-- super! packing chi into my dan tien is a consistantly fruitful practice, (at least, more so than many, many other techniques I have experimented with...) thanks for asking =) You know what a trip is? Yesterday I took a slightly warm bath. I was doing the packing in the bath.. and I began to get a little cold. So I emptied out the bath, filled the tub with hot water, and began the packing once again. It seemed like a very powerful practice. I am thinking that perhaps such hot water is very dense with yang chi, and that perhaps I was absorbing much more than I might otherwise. Which reminds me... Another practice I enjoy is letting very, very hot water strike my testicles/sack from the shower head. (ewwww!!!) Butnot only is it incredibly pleasurable, but I will feel energy whooshing up my body in a most pleasant manner when I do it. scratching can emphasize this feeling. Perhaps we underestimate the influence of bathing? (water?)
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whoooooaaaaaaa tao garden is the sshhhhiiittttttt http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...=qi+gong+master I have GOT to make my way down there sometime in the next few years !
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wow this is all really good advice !!!
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I can't just take his word for it. why would this fuck me up? I'll have to continue until I am convinced otherwise. Also, I think what you ask is excessive. I really stressed the fuck out today-- but right now, I feel pretty healed and recovered. It would be crazy of me to stop practicing for a WHOLE two days. that's a long time... what you are suggesting I do is change the whole of my practice altogether. I am right now aiming first and foremost at energetic evolution... Yes, success comes with peace of mind.. but... peace of mind is not the sole purpose of the practice.
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oooh that's super cool happy birthday dude!
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the 'me' is the ego... the persona... it is the 'david findley' I am recognized as every day. I prefer the more western approach when it comes to psychology, and the study of the self.. because I feel that it is more explanatory than the whole buddhist 'oh the 'me' doesn't even exist, its illusory.' thing... you know? cat...yeah I do =) I guess to be sure though, I will explain what I do. I inhale qi through my nose, down the central channel, into my dan tien. once the chi reaches my dan tien and I have inhaled to comfortable capacity, I pause in breath and with my mind I imagine 'condensing and solidfying' the chi in its place. I usually emphasize this with a slight contraction of the abdominal muscles. I usually continue this 'solidification' with the exhale. (or skip the pause all together and do all of the solidification during the exhale.) I may also inhale qi in a line directly into my dan tien perpendicular to abdomen. I may inhale it as far back as the acupuncture point on the spine behind the dan tien, (which may often cause the energy of the dan tien to go into the spine.) If I am really feeling it, I may do both. Is this about right? do you have any suggestions?
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I wrote this great post in my personal blog.. I wanted to share it on this forum because I think it is so great =)lol... I included it in this one, because I feel that I have been makingan awful lot of stupid threads lately =) wow .. a big break through for me... A few things have been happening in the past few days. basically, my world goes to shit, I get anxious, panicked.. and it all happens at once. I also believe it happens in cycles, or periodically. I believe that, (KNOW, in some circumstances,) that I unconciously CREATE shitty situations for myself. And it happens all at once, and accumulates and accumulates. Imagine an angry person who starts breaking shit. This is really only making him angrier, because he's breaking his shit! Like fuel to the fire. This kind of dysfunctional behavior seems to driven by the unconcious. WHY, I am not sure. according to the producers of 'what the bleep do we know?,' we're addicted to these emotions. (or rather, addicted to the chemical responses TO these emotions...) HOW I got this way is probably a pretty simple answer... Being subject to a terrible boss for an extended period of time. Is it possible that I have become addicted to the stress panic and anxiety that they constantly subject me to for all that time? The next question is the most important.. How do I stop my unconscious self from doing this to me? I have alway sort of 'known' how powerful and driving the unconcious can be... But know that I have experienced and recognized it for myself in my day-to-day living, it is truly diabolical in proportion!! I ALSO believe that mind-chatter, or excessive thought-noise (or whatever,) is the cloak under which the unconcious hides under !! What does this mean? this means I need to stop the constant mind-chatter, and cultivate a cyclic 'calm and relaxed' emotion. This will probably be best done by daily reading of the tao te ching, because this is how I did it in the past. Gosh. what a great post. I think I'll put it in taoist discussion forum, afterall..
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I have been concentrating on alot of breathing lately... and I often find myself wanting to take deeper breaths but can't, because my body/lungs won't expand anymore (and I am already breathing so deeply...) Does anybody else experience this? Can this be associated to mean anything, (good or bad?) It is really unpleasant to have this desire to breathe deeper, and you can't.
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thanks guys =) I really appreciate the help =)
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here is another cool forum... they're all over the place!
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what is yin chi and how can I culivate it?
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hey guys check this forum out.. (it's MO PAI SUPER COOL HUH?!) I found it searching for a way to score the ring of fire documentary ... (which I found, but only in VHS.. VHS? wtf is THAT? ) oh wait here is th elink: http://www.wongkiewkit.com/forum/archive/i....php/t-289.html here is a SUPER COOL post: Do you by chance have a copy of some of the posts at the Wenwukuan forum? How long was the forum up and can you remember anything else Kostas cited from the Mo-Pai text? Were there any other interesting facts or revelations that were discussed there but have not been mentioned in the books or at CK?< Mostly it was re-itteration of points mentioned in the book but other thing of interest that did come up including the following information. Some i took as notes, others i cut and pasted and have put these here so others may have a better understanding of why the mo-pai may be making the choices they are + references to other practitioners and risks. Direct information from the site i have put in quotation marks. 1.alcohol, coffee and cigaretts do not affect training... anything goes so long as it does not damage your nervous system, enjoy. 2.The 'Light Body' ability that occurs naturally as a part of nei kung training had been achieved by a friend of kostas named Lee, who is a Korean martial arts master and demos it routinely. I think he is the one mentioned in the book so his nei kung is from a school other than John's. He is a low level but he he can break 4 by 4's while maintaining his 'light body'. He was able to do this as he grasped the secret of light body well before he would of developed it naturally in the mo pai system. 3.The levels are not set in concrete for abilities, they are merely a guide and it is different for everyone. This is why they are so selective and careful in their training. Also different people will develope different abilities though some are universal. 4.Striking a person with your yang qi has the same affect whether you have yin (to project) or not, the only difference is the strength of your yang. Even making love is dangerious at level 2. 5."A health-related program like Chen tai chi can keep you alert and well. Wu style might even be better at that than Chen, if the late Mae Yue Liang and the still ornery Wang Peisheng are any example. But MoPai neikung is not health oriented." *I am not sure if it was in the book or forum but it was mentioned this training can lead to an earlier death as you are altering your energy from health uses to martial power so you have less sustaining your body. This is why you should not train too hard. 6.Mo-pai nei kung is very similear to Tibetan gTummo yoga "The best book I have seen written from the Tibetan standpoint is Clear Light of Bliss. You can find it on Amazon. Many practitioners of Tibetan Yoga have written to me saying: "hey, what you describe is exactly like the completion stages in XYZ." Duh. Human beings have two arms and two legs. Go figure." 7.60% of the people attempting level 3 have died "The people who have died or been injured have suffered from strokes, heart attacks, and kidney failure" 8."It's not a problem at all, in fact it is desired, to combine meditation with kinetic training. This is the reason that we recommend a practice such as tai-chi with a qualified teacher to all who have an interest in neikung. I would say that you are very much on the right track. What we have seen in practice is that people who follow such regimes will normally, in the course of five years, reach about 70% of Level One, which is wonderful." >>I've met a young man who could reach level 2 for only 3 years of training 9."One of the foremost living masters of neikung in China is a woman, Yang Meijun. She is the head of a Kunlun Qi gong and martial arts school, best known for her instruction of the Wild Goose style, which is part of the body of knowledge she possesses." 10."The main concepts in the MoPai are universality (do onto others), universal justice (not revenge - I have been awed by how my master lets karma take its course without interceding, and have tried to follow his example), submission to the Will of Heaven, freedom from material possessions (Liao Sijo literally did not have a pot to piss in, when he could have had anything and everything he wanted)." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hubert19th January 2005, 02:52 PM Thanks for sharing, mopai, that is some fascinating information. I have just bought "The Magus of Java", and I am looking forward to reading it. It is strange how less than a year ago I would have dismissed it as rubbish without even trying, whereas know, after all I have experienced with Sifu and Shaolin Wahnam, I don't have a single doubt that it is all true... I am not sure if it was in the book or forum but it was mentioned this training can lead to an earlier death as you are altering your energy from health uses to martial power so you have less sustaining your body. This is why you should not train too hard. I remember Jeffrey quoting a similar discussion he had with Sifu. Not sure which thread it was, but it was about why some Taijiquan master would die early, which could seem paradoxal.
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OMG you know I used to have access to this site from my workplace... then after a short-while the big red army firewall came up! you think this has to do with my dirty mouth?? jeez...! Maybe I'll go back and edit/ delete my old posts, see if I can't get access from work again...
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oh gosh whats a proxy =(
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OooOh.. thanks, man... I added that to my shopping cart... I hope it haves male sexual cultivation tips in it, as well, though O_O (it didn't say... and the emphasis on 'womens solo practice' on the cover leads me to believe it probably doesn't...) yeah, has anyone read it??
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WHAT? I believe in sincerity. I believe that masking your opinions with such things as tact is a thing reserved for people who are either afraid or want something. --And at least I am notasking other people to censor themselves O_O That's terrible...
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denty sounds like a big bitch in his reply to winn. (hehehe...) I would still take this trip though, if I had 5000 euro...
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AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAAHA WHAT A FUCKING DRAMA OMG LOL I think Winn is on it... AND, he speaks for himself, in a genuine manner.
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I can't dismiss what he is saying simply because is sounds fantastic. Yes, I thuroughly accept the possibility that he is just some dude fucking with us... Having an open-mind, though, is the wise thing to do.
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gosh... is no one concious of their triple heater? ...what about any of the meridians?
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hmm, that is a good point to make, christoph... But I don't think that in my case it is the oxygen consumption, as much as it is the desire to stretch my lungs... if that makes sense... thanks thaddeus-- definately helps, not 100% but definately worth being grateful for.
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I've consulted those free and instant on-line I ching's dozens of times. Does anyonethink there is a difference between throwing yarrow sticks yourself, or clicking a button? I mean.. It's all apparantly random, right?