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True what you say about being 'healed'. I think that the whole families perspective and well being, and understanding shifted due to the trip they undertook. And it integrated them as a unit, therefore as individuals all of them started to function better. The shaman did say about sign of the boy becoming shaman. What I find interesting that in many societies what we call 'illness'here is not considered illness in those societies. Could be that or maybe he saw something in future if his psychic abilities are working.

Went on Wim Hof s website http://www.innerfire.nl/en-home and emailed him about the program he is teaching. He said there will be one in spring in Europe. At that time I will still be away or just come back to Europe , so it is not going to happen. I am courious how his programs are formed and what exactly is he teaching? Anyone has expirience? Wim definetly looks toasty, check his running on the snow vids out. Being able to keep warm without heating is my long term project as I think it must be so freeing and would be great to travel light when going to nature , not having so many needs and worries for the body to stay healthy. Also to go whenever I want and forget about coldness obstacles.

Thanks for replies ! I am happy to read that the practise does keep you warm and toasty from you lot and to read feedback on the practise. In case anyone remebers anything else they want to share , I am all ears.. I will try that technique Susan.

Oh cool link Adam! I am aware that tummo is not a practise for generating heat in colder climate. I have just been honest about my intention of research for now, which are keeping warm primarily ,any spiritual benefits are welcome too. I already hold breath and concentrate on navel in 'cold situations'and yes it does help ,however not to extent Id like it too. So I am looking around a bit, prepared to expiriment if my research moves me enough.. Thanks for sharing .

Hi CowTao , Have you done tummo yourself? If yes did you learn it from the place you reccomended the link for? Yes I will try to approach this with the eyes wide open, not to worry. I am fully aware that certain practises may not work without proper guidiance, and could be dangerous. I wouldnt want to waste my time on doing something I am not sure that I want to do and doing it half right. As much as I dont like an oppresive guru disciple relationship , I do enjoy learning from different teachers, people, friends etc..and have no problem in assuming a role of a student (however, not easily convinced and ever questioning one). Thanks for the books reccomendations. I think I have read 6 yogas of Naropa long time ago and am going to look them up again this week ,maybe even tonite .

Mal, cool to hear your feedback about warming up on the motorbike! How this guy does it , I dont know?I get cold just by looking at him. It is interesting what he says .Body is incredible and has amazing ability to adopt . He remind me of my nutty DJ neighbour from about 6 years ago who used to walk around without shoes for years in the middle of a large city. This guy did it becouse he didnt like people checking him out by the clothes he wears(in this case shoes which are the real statment in some subcultures).

I just came back home after reading this an hour ago People meditating on the streets(square that is) of London http://positivenews.org.uk/2011/wellbeing/spirit/5148/flash-mob-meditations-london-awaken-public-interest/ group meditations world wide ,people gathering together regardless of religious beliefs http://www.medmob.org/ Heartwarming to see! Beutiful statment:

Hi , we had a thread few days ago about it by mewtwo. You have probably missed it. Here: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/20753-real-levitating-buddhist-monk/

'So you think this "There was a synergy created between the mind and heart to have claim. The same can be done with the pure awareness to again develop a synergy yet free from the illusion of the perpetuated self. " should be said differetly?' You know I am sitting here trying to figure this one out. But its just not happening bro. Maybe I am extra thick today or something, I dont know. 'Illusion of perpetuated self' is confusing me.. Awarness is a good zone to be plugged into and when that happens everything is smooth with the big smile on your face.

That was a nice share zanshin. I have enjoyed reading it.

It is pleasure. Yes I understand , but still feel (at least to the level of current understanding which is of course subject to change)that everything is real and unreal too. And it is helpful to acknowledege individual ,as a personal self and act accordingly especially in situations like crossing the road for example. More so I would say this is a great becouse we are having a human expirienece and relating is such an important factor and it is done through individual,it is life sustaining .Instead of looking for absolute , an ultimate which is common phenomena among seekers in general , it is much more helpful to utilize what we are used to and born with here on earth. Nourish our relationships with everything. That alone has potential to reveal depths of our being.

Well, I hope you took their advice and improved your skill tiger. You are also right it comes after many judgments based on logic,being rational. Or as it is with a lot of the women by relating to situations and ideas, being relational. Relting is a very powerful tool which has become very rusty in recent time and it shows very clearly in the world affairs today.

There was some scientific stuff I didnt quite get I guess Ill have to reread it. 'As long as the awareness remains bound in an illusion perceiving itself as something separate...' I would stop here as this gives a good opportunity to point out a view on something that doesent quite flow. Awarness can not be bound . Perciving myself as seperate is also very real on some level, it is not an illusion. And needs to be adressed accordingly. This is only half a sentence highlited but it means a huge amount - the whole perpective really and has a power to change life. And grow hair back on the bold patches too and make the nails stronger.haha I am talking rubbish now, my quirky sense of humor. *Back to normal* 'The true nature of awareness is before any thought, let alone, knowing can take place.' Awraness is . What matters is what I plug into , what zones am I taking nourishment from and if it is healthy or not. This could be such a broad spectrum of emotinal/mental constructions, some extremly powerful and dominating. That was unexpectdely impersonal take on love Informer. ' So with out further delay, may your love reign free in an unbound pure awareness that is now. Indefinitely. Inevitably.' And may you love for the loves sake.

mewtwo, I too love going on the you tube sometimes and find all sorts of things. Yes that was obviously fake. Hello Marblehead! And you didnt seem to go deep enough . Faith based on logic and expirience is wise. But faith based on intuition is wisdom. Logic is great , but it is still a tool . Intuition is like switched on state of being(according to me, wouldnt be suprised if anyone has different ideas).

Taomeow, How interesting. Thanks for mentioning. I have just googeled the book you have mentioned and will order it. It looks as if it could be one of those books I could really enjoy reading.

Let me fill in this questionare than. Courious what others will say too. What about you Informer?

Oh good ! I have this ability of 'making someones morning' at least once in ten years. I am glad.

Well have a good second hand concept dusting session! Dusting has a potential to be a very relaxing thing to do. Yes Rishis although I havent met one yet and therefore they could , but also could not be existing. I do completley believe that this knowledge is possible though. IMO this occurs with many common practicioners too on smaller level .When indentifcation with individual has weakend enough ,person starts indentifying with universal recgonising himself/herself in everything due to nature of interconecctedness. S/he automatically becomes a transformer of immediate surrounding . The way I understand myself and meditate and balance myself out knowing stuff about me and what to do , in the same way it is possible to know stuff about universal issues and meditate and balance them as they are our issues part of our larger me , no separation.

Yeah incredible. What about Devraha Baba ,in India they are saying he was about 400 years old not 200. One thing I know for sure is that all people I spoke to about him and some of them are spiritual teachers themselves would go to him for learning and inspiration. Just putting it out there. Some links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devraha_Baba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xy6LW_Sijw&feature=related

My thoughts too.

I agree with this. Taiji is amazing for flexibility and fluidity , it totally helps loosening up (in addition to streching ). Long stances is the answer. In fact it helepd me loosen up so much and correct contractions caused by injury I have had .Plus I gained new awarness of how to distress myself by loosening up through the right posture whilst standing up or moving about and concentration even in buisy atmosphere at work. (I should be employed as an advertisment for taiji.) Something yoga never provided and lacks (this statment has a potential to be individual expirience only , I dont know).

haha I should have kept my mouth shut. OK for especially for you -K- . You warmed my heart . Why cant you reconsile the two? One time only in meditation the pressure in me bulid up sufficiently enough for me to forget myself and for my soul to be expeled across the universe in full clarity and have this kind of expirience. That is how I got to know my Mother and also aspect of myself as giving birth to my own creation and understand her as manifestation impersonated. Thereafter this understanding I have entered a realm where I didnt exist any longer 'beyond' manifestation, that cannot be described ,becouse there is no expirience. Only afterwards when back in some subtle thinking/expiriencing mode one can know that this happened. So I am back as universe and a part of the universe conversing with Mother which is also myself. A very alive interconnectednes . Than a thought came 'Is this all in my mind?'. This thought proved to weigh 1000000 tones with effect of gravitattional pull and send me back to the earth through the universe . Here I saw how stars and planets change and make a path for the thought and also how our every thought influences the whole of the universe. This happens with each and every thought. This gave me an idea how astrology came about. Every thought is a position of universe. I suppose deep meditators (I am not one of those )have regular acess to this knowledege and are able to cause change even on more universal scale by meditating issues and universe as themselves. As I was still heading to the earth very fast and little slower nearer to the earth I paused and saw planets of our system,listened to them, looked at the sun that I love from totally new angle. And hit the earth , back in the body.

Ah Taomeow, I dont see you being controlled (from what little I have read you). Enjoyed reading your post. I have similar idea of love between couples but it is based on different mental/emotional patterns instead of astrology which I have no significant knowledge of. PS Just wrote a long reply about astrology based on meditation expirience and erased it all , I am not confident enough to share on forum becouse others dont relly share their meditation expiriences either(or dont have any?). And when they do they are often judged or martyrd. It is almost a taboo talking of non physical that is not percived by masses.

I like your idea Informer. I am totally into idea and have already envisioned myself living in a nature non urban setting as my long term goal. Something I am working towards to at the moment by thinking about it and chanelling my thoughts towards it by creating a astral psychic garden and planting seeds of mentioned idea. However as with everything, lets wait and see what the lifes answer is to that idea of mine. If elements agree and if soil is fertile. However I do agree with the spirit of lerners post. It is good to keep in mind humanity getting together ,but this will happen as a natural outcome of many people doing their bit individually and realising interconectedness and unavoidable relationship with everything. As we have been discussing on tao save the world thread 'personal at the root of global'.

That was nicely observed . I would only skip keep moving forward bit and add that we life is not only something we connect to but we are always simply part of life and life itself, no matter how good or bad guilty or eager,or wanting to improve or joyfull. For me this has become a great peacfull knowing I found vibrantly alive in its stillness beyond(figure of speech) my previous structure of stress and constant demand. Saying that , not that I am some 24/7 om shanti wu wei samadhi wisdomer(I know this word doesent exist but it fits nicely) or anything, just shedding a little feeling fresher and lighter than before.