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Maybe ,but we still gotta do something while taking part in this earthly play ,even if that something is nothing or pretending of some sort.

This is it, even if the trunk burns in the forest fire or there would be noone to sit on it.

'In particular is contained universal.'Just how the things are and saving is just not torough and deep enough. Relaxing into a different tune is the way inward, openning acess to the knowledge on how to stop scracthing our mental/emotional wounds and causing infection and spreading that infection. I am reminded of the words of Benjamin Zephaniah(British poet (and martial artist ) ): 'It is just that we have been listening to the rong radio station. Listening to the rong tones from the rong zones.' Fine tunning is an art of living. Just the mere notion of sitting among the trees evokes sweet spacioussnes and thrill as I think I have managed to save up enough money to go away and to do just exactly that this winter for at least 3,4,5 months. Plus sitting by the river, watching the sky, listening to the forest, admiring the wind ,smelling the cedar trees ..Being close to the bare nature is so nourishing and in such atmosphere it is so effortless to recgonise myself as a part of natureand become transparent.

And unfortunatley most of the other cultures follow and worship western culture like their favourite diety, walking in the same footprints. I too would be curious to find out what do you mean by converting to Tao. Are you saying something along the lines of adopting a lifestyle which is more in accordance with nature or did you mean it literally converting to Tao as a religion? I dont believe that humanity needs saving ,but I do believe that we as individuals need to seriously sort our selves out by facing our fears and nurturing ourselves. Dancing with life instead of kicking life in the butt, as we do right now. This is becouse personal is at the root of global. Every little individual change is more precious than the 10000000 kg of diamonds becouse it creates more fertile atmosphere across the earth and universe .It creates waves and waves that have a potential to spread and balance the situation we are in. 'Saving' aspect IMO is so deepley rooted in our psyche as right the way and solution, but it is actually the cause. In a way as we started all this 'civilization' becouse we wanted to save ourselves trouble of looking for shelter and slowly started to severe our link with the earth , so we started to build some sort of dwellings. Than we invented the wheel to save us walking and carriying. The list can go on all the way to the 'chin rest devices whilst reading 'that are saving us from chin getting too tierd and other more or less usefull items and caused us coupeled with too much misplaced curiosty many global problems that we want to fight instead of understand and deal with. This saving needs to stop (even just as figure of speech as carries potential to cause destruction).We need to find our malnurished connection with the heart of the earth and universe and pay attention and nurture our MANY wounds first.

I do taiji and love it. It has helped me a LOT with a posture and aligment after I had a serious injury(that is why I started it in the first place)and now I am getting deeper and can tell you that it is a true art contatly reveleaing new depths on different levels.At the moment I am curious to learn martial side of it too which is so much fun as I am learning to express myself in a whole new way. I would say it also depends who you are learning with becouse I have tried it few years back and stopped as I got bored with the way class was though and felt that my previous teacher lacked depth. I am very slow at learning and in no rush but can see myself in 30 years time as one of those taiji grannies for sure .

What vibrating at higher frequency means to me is being rooted and not spaced out and that is what I try and put in practise. Of course there might be misunderstanding somwhere I suppose as internet communication is not always very procise. These things really depend on individual personality IMO and where is person coming from. There is no formula for the right way.All depending on emotional - psychological background and various influences in persons life. So I suppose you are right in some cases becoming a ghost would be a real danger. Nevermind your spelling on ipad, it is brilliant in comparison to my pigeon English and creative grammar.

Hope I am not interfiering this interesting taiji converstaion too much .I have just reading a barefooft(I love being barefoot ) bit and have this powerfull urge to share a revelation I have discovered 2 years ago shoewise. vivo barefoot http://www.vivobarefoot.com/uk/ and some of these shoes are connected store Terra Plana http://www.terraplana.com/uk/ A HEAVEN for feet and I work on my feet so I know what I am talking about. The way those soles are ingenireed is amazing, they kiss your feet. And the shoes are stylish too.

That looks interesting Mal. I saw some billboards up today when cycling to work for a similar show(or maybe it is the same).And thought I would like to see it.

What I tried to demonstrate was my abilty to act rather to react in that given situation. When a person is having an emotional outburst it is imposibble to talk sense to them and discuss the situation soberly. Keeping quiet has many shades and I am trying to make sure that it is a 'sort of giving space quietness'as oppose to 'I am punishing becouse you are nasty quietness' or 'I am ignoring you becouse you are stupid' . This in no way interfiers with my confidence and assertivness. It is not a sort bland door mat behaviour with a hint of cowardiness. It is understanding a situation when it arises and making a choice by having a good insight based on previous expirience. If I burn myself once I will try and avoid same situation twice. I would like to add that communication is very important and vital. The time and the place and the tone too. I am a great believer of discussing and making sure that there is no misunderstandings . It is a recipe for succes in my books instead of disaster as you have suggested.Trying to be OK with the way life expresess in any given situation by radiating instead of grabing and holding or worst storing permanently and learning to choose. Elegance is important haha.

I would go with' radiate at higher frequency 'as dwai said . Minding my own buisness literally always helps, negative people are not my buissnes. I had an incident that happens these days so very rarley if ever where someone started to shout at me very abusevly and had a real emotional fit. I just kept quiet and disinterested letting whatever needs to be expressed take place ,did not engage and pumped up my vibrations being very aware and paying attention not to take in but radiate. Letting it pass me like that. Later on in a day I saw a thought trying to come back and engage me in discussion of how unfair was this incident ,again I didnt feel appropriate to engage in that thought as it is nothing but anger and victim mentality that wants some entertainment. Had a little taste and decided that it is not my cuppa any longer, got better things to think about. So again found a place where this thought is coming from and attention it wants,and sent out a lot of love acknowledging that it is my own choice of what to engage with . No heat or anger touched me. Just allowing of nature to express herself and accepting it . And the beat goes on.

Oh yes totally , I love dancing and spontanious movements and do find it balancing. It is just that I am a bit sceptical towards the videos posted in the very first post and the stuff going on in there supossedly induced by the teacher. Have you seen them? If not do watch them ,they are interseting.

Wow. I am not familiar with this type of qigong and wonder how I would react to it, somehow I dont think it would influence me , but again there is a small chance that I might be wrong. Very ver very small chance as with everything. Scotty mentioned placebo, that is my guess in many cases, or mass hypnoses of some sort.Just a guess from an outsiders point of view. It does appear that people are getting rid of, acting out their burdens. It looks like a good way to learn some breakdancing moves I never dared to do.

Astral my guess would be that it is some kind of tension on physical level. The reason could be anything from an old injury to some emotinal or mental unresolved issue that calls for deeper introspection .

I just had an impulse to share with you a book I am reading at the moment. Jetsun recomended some months ago a book on Machig Labrdon(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machig_Labdr%C3%B6n) ,so I went on amazon and looked around and decided to get 'Feeding your demons' by Tsultrim Allione in which author shares way of resolving inner conflicts by feeding them what they are hungry for according to Labradons techinque. I really like that approach a lot. Maybe you are familiar with it already, I dont know. You say: 'What can I offer to a suffering world? What can I do for my suffering self? Who is this "I" anyway?' Who is this I is a good approach definetley. Way to go.The rest falls into place .

Welcome back cat! So happy to read you. Just saw what you wrote above and framed it as it speaks to me .These are my main sources of refreshment.

Creation hugs from me too! haha You are amazing as you are .22 only? I am impressed. You are not a freak, gosh if only you knew what a lot of us have gone or are going through . Some of the stuff I wouldnt be brave to share with anyone becouse I am too proud.

That sounds a bit harsh Sinfest

Intersting indeed 'cough, cough'.. Guns everywhere.

hahaha yeah you are right .I just imagined getting one of those spontanious qigong attacks in full blast like those people in the video just as I am getting to know someone more intimatley for the first time lol.That would be so attractive and ellegant .

Thanks Vortex . I have heard about spontanious qi gong but have never seen it before like this on the video. Had some shakes/twiches soemtimes (little ones)myself especially when going to bed.

What happened to the people that are shaking in the first video? And the ones that are dancing on the meadow like in daze? What is this?

R. Balsekar talking about free will: I got a book 'Your head in the tigers mouth' written by R. Balsekar(author unknown to me till then) some years ago from a friend . This proved to be a perfect combination of good timing and the content of the book. Something clicked into right place. I watch him on the you tube sometimes. So how usefull is free will? How free is free will? Does it depend where one is looking from or not? What is your understanding?

My jorney to Lhasa Alexandra David Neel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_David-N%C3%A9el A very good read about A.D. Neel struggle to enter Lhasa sometimes in 1940s when no western women traveled that way . 'Magic and mystery in Tibet' is another good book by her about various practicioners in Tibet. But I have read that one long time ago when I was 16 years old and remeber getting scared lol.becouse of some stories in there.

Just feel this needs to be seen once more. HIGH level exorcist or a high level cultivator who is also a healer should be able to help. I just remeberd that I saw distance/phone healing with Spring Forest Chi kung http://www.bornahealer.com/ I have no idea if they are good ,but quite a few members here on the bums benefited from that system.

I voted other. Well I started becouse I wanted to have a deeper insight into life. Now I do it becouse it feels right.