suninmyeyes

Haha yes they are different of course ,with different names,what I am saying that as with many gods and beliefs ,they often develop from the same source and spread.There obvioulsy is a similarity .That is my point. I am not that interested to be honest ,just making my self clear.. I respect you disagreeing too,whichever way. Anyone wants to talk about immortals? (sorry for swaying off the thread a bit)

http://ciclk.blogspot.com/2011/01/popular-chinese-gods-and-goddesses-sun.html

hahaha Jolly good idea!

Hope you like chocolate cake.This is the only piece of cake I have got stored and you can have it. When I think of void it is a vacuus 'space',but full of potential.Dont know if this explains it well.

OK thanks ,I was just wondering about possible connections between similar beliefs in this case between India and China, as there are some obvious similarities and touching points. Dont know why are you rolling your eyes?What was this trying to convey? Anyway interseting topic and I am looking forward to hopefully moore people chiming in.

tulku, When I read your posts you sound so dramatic. I just imagined you on the stage doing Machbeth or someting.Actually maybe more like a Jesus Christ Superstar. Anyway void can be scary, it is true. I certanly got scared, especially at one point. Very scary. I am no longer there, melting away.. this stuff is not easily crossed, no matter how heroic one is. This is not just a piece of cake. Slowly,slowly walk in honesty at least to yourself.

Yes Jetsun!Well said. Get up ,stand up dont give up the fight.. Reclaim your birthright.

Hi exorcist, I am not familiar with terminology you are using ,but am interested to find out more if you feel like sharing. What/where is Magic Gateway?And how do you open it?And why is it important to open it?

That is interesting becouse one of the Hindu Immortals is Hannuman the Monkey God. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiranjivi I wonder about possible connection ..

All right,I was reediting my last post 5000 times trying to sound as clear as possible ,so at least that there is no confusion . Yeah context is the key .Well I admit to my poor writing abilities too.

I have just read your post .It makes sense what you say. Curious as to what makes you think that concentrating on light would be 'less deep' practise? Prehaps you have some gem you discovered as to why and want to share? How do you concentrate on visual stimuli?I mean wherther you have point of concentration or just watch where it arises? One of the things I find is that it is great for healing purposes ,one can really discover what needs attention(as you have mentioned) and just paying attention how does it come into play reveals a lot. Just remeberd this Burmese nun I met once and we were chatting about different styles of meditation and sharing things spiritual.She says that when she closes her eyes she sees inside her body -literally and was telling me how she fixed her knee once and could see bones being misplaced.And that this is not so uncommon among long term meditators. Of course she could be not telling the truth, there is always that,but than again I could not be telling truth either .

Hey Zero (party manager ), I hope you released those cobras far away from your house..

Post by Everything : 'Pff, the man falls on his knees and everyone praises the store keeper. Admire the man with the gun! Haha.' ... No thanks I ll still stick to my opinion.

edit:too much personal info

I love to see people like that store keeper,it so inspiring to see his reaction,or shall I say action.

Hello Hagar, Nice post. I also had am having similar expirience .Like Seth Ananada I feel that white light is underalying principle,almost like a skeleton for the more gross physical manifestation. I have mainly come to that expirience through some yogic practises that lead to meditative states. The thing is IMO opinion and expirience is that light is working with 'you',and that light is not really gathered ,but rather discovered.And shapes or any forms (physical,mental,emotional)depend persons thoughts or how open or closed mind is. I would be interested to hear what other people think. What are the effects for working with light? Trying to find out where does this light come from?Is it produced by me or is it universal substance?How am I relating to it,how is it relating to me ?Why?So many questions can be answered like this ,it is really a beutiful opportunity. One time when I meditated A LOT for a prolonged period I could just concentrate on question look deeply in the light and would get an answer,amazing answer about all different things.It was answered through the light,its like almost a light language.One starts understanding finer manifestation in a very natural way.Its not like :wow!,its more like :oh yeah,thaaats how it works!. In my expirience after some time light can become so dense ,it is not coming and going ,so full and bright everything melts in the vacuus 'space' and :wub: deep meditation occurs.

Yeah chen tai chi for past 3 years, but that means nothing as I am taking super slow to learn.Basically I am pretty bad at it,but do enjoy it.

Thanks , found an interesting article just click on the link in the link 'How you can change your genes'(why DNA isnt your destiny) http://sandeepr.com/2010/01/24/epigenetics-dna-how-you-can-change-your-genes-destiny-time/

OK but if we look at cancer for example and mutations that occur,are they influenced by the state of mind of the cancer sufferer at all? Has a different sate of mind that has been brought on by movments and breathing heleped cure the illnes in some people? In the same manner mind and breathing in certain way could possibly bring on changes to DNA by logic. Now I am sure you know MUCH more about science than me and wouldnt be suprised if I made some slip somwhere. This is my 0.01 kunas. You did make me lough with the changing the ratio of hydrogen to helium in the sun analogy.But you know why not again?Could it be that we have more potential than we think possible,is our thinking our main limitation? The whole universe changes all the time becouse every thought and action we make ,if one is to meditate on that maybe clue could be found as to finding ways to change proportions . post by Wuji: 'If you change your DNA you are in essence changing your ancestral Qi and your "karma". This is supposed to be possible to bring about through two methods: One is the physical - Ming cultivation, which alters the energetic foundation of the body, from which the grosser form of the physical is generated. It makes sense that if you change the source material (the Qi) that the manifest (the body/DNA) would also change. This would be hard to test, but certainly is in the realm of possibility. A big challenge is that to make change at this level, you have to believe it to be in the realm of the possible, like growing back a digit that has been severed...or reversing incurable diseases through Qi Gong practice.... The second method is through the cultivation of virtue - Xing or essential nature cultivation. Through this level of cultivation you essentially build back good deed credit - when you do that you alter your "karma". The good deed credit or virtue level is the only thing that you can take with you when you die... Because you can take this dual approach, it is supposed to be possible to reverse and fix any inherited "stuff" and achieve immortality in this lifetime. This stuff is so COOL!!! ' Wuji Indeed cool stuff!I totally agree on two ways of making a permanent change.This is something I have been pondering recently. Especially exploring the relation between believing and manifestation.And also why would imposiblle be taken for granted? It is some deeply engraved common sensical human dogma that I strive not to just accept no matter how much proofs there are.Common sense can be a dangerous trap or a bad excuse for having a rest. Virtue a second thing you mention resonates here as well . I took on as a reminder ,practise and backbone in my life 'do no harm'(practical as oppose extremist and of course I slip sometimes and pick myself back up and continue my journey)and have noticed that it is a brilliant tool.It really causes the permanet change wiping away old conditioning and opening the doors without even having to knock. It is one of the best practises as it makes a person more transparent and therefore more easy to blend with nature. Would like to see your posts more often.

When the breathing is even and deep and attention is on dantien ,dantien turns and directs , it becomes the 'new brain' .And a person becomes unmistakingly bouyant,and not stiff. You are very brave to be open to critique like this and have my admiring for that. As to not having a uniform way to explanations -it is to be expected as humans are not robots and it is natural that slightly different sounding explanations may occur due to the view through personal understanding and becouse of their own personality and abilty to explain. To be honest I havent heard or read people say that much of a different things about dantien so far.

Yeah what tablet is that? Tell us more for those who dont understand/know.

Adishakti, just read your post.In my case I have been raw vegan(predomainatley fruit)for 4 years now.First I was normal raw using salt and oil etc.after 6 months and I have lost some weight ,not too much as I am naturally slim and dont put on weight much anyaway.But when I stopped salt and oils and did fruit mostly I got quite skinny for about 4 months,but I never got too skinny unhealthy looking. Throughout years my body is retaining more weight but I am also much more active and built more muscle. It has been important to maintain physically active lifestyle (daily)and get outdoors a lot.I run,cycle,and stretch outdoors as well as taiji .Being outdoors is like a food for the emotional and mental body as well as physical body.So sweet.

Even that understanding is only like a sand slipping through the fingers in a long run. At the same time I am definetly for being practical.