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he did great job of translating that ezekiel passage imo

a pollock painting's reality lies not in any reference to the phenomenal world. he dissolved the customary compositional focus on a central object/image and thus, broke down the illusion of objects. he developed an 'all over' composition. he was able to express rather than excavate and he translated an act of painting into an adventure of self-realization. to do this you do not look at the painting from the outside looking in, you must enter it to move around in it and mingle with its very life. there you will understand the energy involved you have to go literally in the painting. so, there is no pre-conceived image, does any of this make sense? if so, then you should be able to follow what deci belle is sharing. it is an ancient rivalry between rational thought and the irrational man vs. nature when hoffman told pollock that pollock;s work was against nature, pollock replied "i am nature" pollock was not joking or playing with words or paint

i look at a deci thread much like i look at a jackson pollock painting. a truly resourceful person is never ever bored, but i digress. pollock is from north america, digress,,,,, it isnt about pollock or about deci, with pollock it isnt pollock it is the painting itself pollock entered into the painting it had/has no beginning or end, it just is and it is what it is and it isnt what it isnt pollock doesnt/didnt want you to admire or analyize the painting,,he wanted you to enter into it and experience for yourself--only then can you realize what went on within that painting for many it can be very challenging to appreciate or even approach a pollock painting it cannot be approached intellectually

in XYP there is no tie-we are not tied- we are free to quit. there is no oath, no prohibition, it is a weird system at first glance but it has deep meaning, very deep. in XYP we are responsible for our own life and we remain free human. free from attachment,, we become Xiao Yao carefree. i dont think this could happen if based on shamanism or passed down Fa does it sound like a cult?

i do appreciate you looking out for me/us/XYP. it is a system to always test. i still wonder if you are basing your judgement on shamanism? that seemed to be the crux of our previous discussions. "When you are 'initiated' into XYP, I assume that the master is giving you his 'fa' and this 'fa' has been passed down through time from one master to another, even though a new sect may have been established, the 'fa' remains. This extra power (fa) that is put into the your body may have all sorts of historical 'commands'. Some of these commands may date back hundreds if not thousands of years to the ancient wu." this doesnt fit with XYP system. Tao Yin is disciple acceptance only. we are accepted as a disciple by the XYP master and due to his Spiritual level we will be given FFS who is on duty in the name of TSLJ. FFS is Taoist Shen Xian. FFS teaches us about energy but also about wisdom and even sometimes instructs us in the very simple mundane things such as sleep,doing chores, work, school, etc. this isnt possible in the method that uses Fa as you mentioned, is it? even in using divine power, our system does not use a "pass down Fa" but each and every disciple develops their own power of Fa Shu. my XYP friend said that the system you mention is the most common Fa in the magic world. the Fa pass down directly and the disciple must control and master it. but TYS emphasis is on wisdom and not magic, so, we dont use that system. so you are comparing a system that we dont use. you are basing on shamanism and pass down power and we dont use that. one thing about your statement, that learning from an immortal is very difficult because people cannot find the way--but, if you do meet with a height level Spiritual master, it could become easier, becoz the model is based simply on honesty and sincerity. i do not mean to doubt your conversation with your immortal teacher but it is better for me to avoid any personal analysis of that.

another sad episode. WTF http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/09/107-year-old-man-dies-shootout-swat-team/69177/

i can hardly contain my excitement !! a newly discovered van Gogh very uplifting "What makes this even more exceptional is that this is a transition work in his oeuvre, and moreover, a large painting from a period that is considered by many to be the culmination of his artistic achievement, his period in Arles in the south of France" http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/09/newly-discovered-failure-vincent-van-gogh/69179/

you are welcome apech. chi dragon had given a precise chinese translation for XYP. i consider it to mean carefree and natural. XYP is one of the clans for the Tai Shang Men

XYP is the clan name Xiao Yao Pai FFS is Fu Fak Shen which is a spirit guide and Shen Xian

from the XYP perspective, we use Shen Xian rather than Immortal, Dieties, or a God. every school has different system, and XYP system is unique. all who were Tao Yin / initiated means that they have FFS. FFS is Taoist Shen Xian. Tao Yin is a disciple acceptance ritual. XYP master chooses the disciple and FFS decides how to educate the disciple. FFS is still able to choose by giving some test and evaluation to all disciple before teaching them. why it is so easy to have FFS in XYP? actually not that easy, because many candidates fail to come. It is heaven affinity. And those who come still have been tested by FFS. why XYP spread openly? It is because XYP teaches and values goodness. the goal is to lead people to become true human, we teach wisdom. those who want to learn Taoism usually have good intent and most of them want to become a better person. so FFS is willing to accept it. maybe there are also people who just want to steal the system or the power ?, FFS will know and it does not work. Tao Yin Shu is divine art. the key to success in depend on our sense of Spiritual. and sense of Spiritual depends on our connection with FFS and divine realm. And this connection quality depends on three aspects, these are: 1. Mind Clarity 2. Sincerity and Honesty 3. Behavior / Merit. and regarding Thunder deities. i have asked my XYP friend from Indonesia. he said that XYP Taoist learn how to become wise human and not learn how to harm others. of course when our level increases, our energy and power also increase but our focus is using this power for cultivation and to help others who are in need. and that it is better to use Shen Xian than immortal, deities or god. it is to avoid miss perception. TYS guide with high level Shen Xian. only high level Shen Xian has an ability to connect to human in fully aware condition.

looks to me like everyone can

mh, you and apech are both stewards. i would like to hear if a non mod or non steward can edit a month old post. in the meanwhile i wait with the rest of the bums

i was informed that an announcement will be made this morning us est

idiot stimpy was saying that he cannot edit after 30 minutes.

http://news.yahoo.com/internet-experts-want-security-revamp-nsa-revelations-020838711--sector.html

i havnt heard any announcement either or heard anything really

i cant test it myself becoz i can still edit freely (as a mod) i am hopeful for a yoyous occasion

try to edit something old?

my recent reading of Euripedes The Bacchae very claasic lines drawn between Pentheus (archetype for a man who would control/dominate nature ) and Dyionsus and the Bacchae (nature and forces of nature) it certainly illustrates how using reason against mystery may lead to catastrophe

that one night in 2009 when representatives of the ghost dance showed up unexpectedly to visit with me. one cat ran and hid in the closet while the other cat came and sat beside me on the bed and exchanged looks with each of the visitors. it was over 4 years later when it was revealed to me who exactly they were. and even if they appeared to me the happiest friendliest "things" i have ever met, one cat still sought cover in a closet, but it did come in the room they were in and not some closet in some other room at the other end of the house haha i am very comfortable with every XYP member i have met also, my life is noticably improved in a short time.

"What is XYP?" dagon, http://thetaobums.com/topic/24476-xiao-yao-pai/ flowing hands, your experience sounds remarkable. you will recall that yourself and myself had an exchange of ideas on the thread i have linked. you will remember, that i never insulted you and i never asked you to leave or for anyone to ignore you. "this is one aspect that concerns me" i have only said that anyone should investigate and test and question and then decide if this is the school for them or not.

"Cat's right about this being a community first" it has always felt like a community to me, a very unique and special community. i am just a humble member here who has transformed organically in part due to this community, and no small part either. "Furthermore, I don't think this sort of restriction is in keeping with the original intent of the community" agreed from my pov "Given all of the community support for removing the editing limits, I think that's the way it should be". ditto

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