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bump, there may be a bum around at the moment that can share sth here

i like the question does nonexistence exist? construction is more challenging than deconstructing. splitting apart yinyang for me would be problematic as i dont see that one could exist without the other. it really isnt about other, yinyang exists itself, from my perspective the truth is ever changing, it transforms from age to age. truth is a process. what may have been true, was true and it was necessary for it to have been true but transformed to a new truth. it may be one of the reasons that the Tao that can be defined is not the true Tao. my eyes havnt opened this morning lol, maybe i will drink some coffee and come back here

sounds like warner brothers is practicing extortion and there is going to be alot more of that coming i reckon

i would call one of those a finch it was a robin day here, not sure where all the other birds went i did hear one screeching bluejay mid afternoon.

when money is speech there certainly is no such thing as free speech. what would all the congressman do without the fat political contributions from goldman sachs? if we compromise from the 70% rate to the 28% rate that reagon brought in, that would be 49%. taxes on overseas us corporations 85%. overseas us corporations wtf anyways. traitors fairness doctrine sounds fair. http://zend2.com/ returning the authority of the us constitution to include the bill of rights. break up the big banks, also the us offers bonds each month and then buys them themself this is part of the problem as it artificially sets the market. what type of market does that, if i harvest apples and set them out on a fruit stand and then decide to buy them all myself ? seems like i would get sick from eating apples. clone and reinstate teddy roosevelt. if that doesnt work clone thomas jefferson and george washington. support the group anonymous , i have no idea how to do that however. start manufacturing guillotines ? and clone andrew jackson march on monsanto , there is no benefit from gmo to the consumer the only benefit is for the corp the upper middle class needs to step away from the elite. end a never ending war that was only a war designed to arrive at the conditions we now have. there is the chance that our military instead of turning on its own citizens would do the correct, right, and just thing if it came to that.

take a break i regret that i didnt suggest this book first it isnt the exact same one i used to have mine had steve kuei as co-author http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Qigong-Chinese-Longevity-ebook/product-reviews/B006T3MCGM/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 it is very basic and very simple

ok ralis, i agree it is all presidents and in collusion with the rest of govt, and probably including scotus, shadow govt, and the worldwide corporations. proposed solution? edit>> we can blame kant too, but we need a solution

sounds good steve, i may take you up on that

yes pal you may be on to sth there and maybe Tao looks out for me as well,,,, last nite's bagua was smoooth the 3 dragons of Kunlun never better for me personally they tested out marvellous i acknowledged the 5 elements shen gong was alive meditation had a new wrinkle, my eyes were open but i didnt see anything (literally) i could see nothing sleep was peaceful and a couple of dreams this morning when i woke and began my shen gong i decided after i opened up the communication to go outside and let Taoyin , let the Tao just lead me all the fragrences of flowers, bushes, and trees of June the sweet sweet morning air and the quietness it is what Yang smells like, so yangy and fragrent i did some bagua and it wasnt as smooth as last nites but it was ok LOL a robin circled over head as i did one of my ccw circles i went for a stroll , some early morning immortal walking another new wrinkle for me this morning was an oak tree i had never noticed halted me as i was passing him by he beckoned me to stop there with him and do some tree qigong first time i ever did tree qigong with an oak or before daybreak then a little more circle walking such a Yang morning and Taoyin led me to find a rise on this landscape so i could see where the most Yang\the Sun would be rising i made my way up a rise to where i could see some soft pink clouds dawning i changed directions towards those soft pink clouds and found a clearing in a field of mostly clover there i went barefoot and tasted the early morning dew such deep breaths up from my heels and i found a spot where i rested into wu chi and waited as the Sun rose up and made the dawn i gently stretched into my qigong as the morning light revealed the landscape before me i could see between myself and the Sun a graveyard i couldnt help but to think, is this sth to do with the Tao of Dying? i stilled my mind but there before me was the rising Sun and a graveyard it was still and quiet Yang and Yin there together in obvious symbol obvious even for a fool like me to see as i was walking back there were red and white flowers in large bushes so i walked over to them and pressed my face, my nose into the petals and i exchanged a few breaths with them as i left the flowers i noticed i hadnt seen a single crow this morning there were robins everywhere so , anyways made my morning coffee , and no a 1$ cup it isnt i made a pot and with sugar and cream, and thankyou sree, for reminding me that is a luxury that i enjoy, sipping coffee i feel like i am easy like sunday morning

its not my reality thats harsh.

2nd edit>> but what i didnt want to happen kinda happened here and we devolved into mindless dribble of talk about money. lets move on to sth more fascinating?

sz , certainly not a ringing endorsement for the school that you attended.

wb steve, it is good to have you sharing your perspective here again. are you saying that there are no credible taijiquan teachers that have produced instructive useful taijiquan dvds?

i dont always maintain a varied, balanced, organic diet, including herbs,nuts, berries,fruits, right now i am drinking coffee, but i usually do alright. but some fasting is healthy. i am going to suggest to you that you are far more dependent on air and water and food than you are with money. altho i realize that you are consumed by your addiction to it. money's illusory powers have you distracted to the point of you dont understand the point of life and are now focusing on the idea of dying. your choice of address sounds frightening. in my neck of the woods gangs are not tolerated and are not to be found. i hope by "village taxes" you are referring to rent, mortgage, or property taxes. and not some form of heavy extortion? where i am there are safe helpful caring neighbors included at no extra charge. address? yes i understand and i am not limited to those either. i am free range. altho i do maintain some addresses and luckily for me, my caring helpful safe neighbors keep a watchful eye while i am away. it always feels great to visit those addresses from time to time. so , i do once a year, pay some property taxes. and i cannot say that i am 100% in complete triumph over money.and a year or 2 from now, i may choose to do sth for money, but in my reality happiness and health, (they go hand in hand) having fun and sharing experiences with others, bonding and forming friendships, love, are way higher up my top ten needs/wants list than money. money may be in my top ten, i havnt checked the list lately. it may sneak in at ten idk. sree, this thread started off and i may have looked at 200 of the replies here, with some good content, highly entertaining and even thought provoking. and that is why i entered into it. but if it is only going to devolve into some mindless dribble about money, it becomes exceedingly useless and boring. i absolutely stick by and stand firm with my remark that too much money will kill you. sure it is a good idea to go to the beach and try surfing, it should remind you that water is a powerful force and can be dangerous, but trying to swim across the pacific may not be the brightest idea. for me failure in life would be having money rule over every aspect of my life. compared to water as a force or substance, or having aesthetic value ,money aint shit. if i am sitting on top of the last source of clean water and you are holding all the money, guess what.

this phone and net snooping must be what was meant by transperency, right?

nature has the the best temples anyways enjoy your journey, sounds like a big time under taking, preparedness is key are you going it alone? here is one of the temples i visit

the thing i was attacking is the dependency. money is functional, and highly functional for the weak. still, and i know i wandered into this thread late,and i know how some of these tb threads progress but it started off as The Tao of Dying and not as the Tao of Money. it was suggested that it really was a thread about living. so, i am asking myself, if some of these bums are that dependent on money, then why dont they just take a year or 2 and gather up some lovely money? and then they could move on and live their life. is your life always just going to be a pursuit of some money? it is just like chasing the next hit of crack isnt that some form of slavery? the Tao i playfully play with each day isnt weak and dependent or a slave system. the Lacanian barred subject, $, which is as such foreign to, incompatible with, enjoyment: and ya'll can spend your lives however you wish, pun intended

http://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Flow-Psychology-Discovery-Invention/dp/0060928204/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370613014&sr=1-1&keywords=creativity+flow+and+the+psychology+of+discovery+and+invention

i am not in the usual habit of entering a thread only after checking with a mod or another member to see what the hell it is about. i like to use my own ideas and opinions. and experience and start from there. interesting use of the word, hell. deci, does someone enlightened and can see complete absolute reality hold hostilities towards others that dont see exactly the same thing? and i am really liking the new avatar, it is so you.. i often edit, hehehe hell, is hell like an abyss that threatens to swallow up the subject that fails to maintain a proper distance from it? this is the context in which hell is used here?

the title of this forum is TheTao Bums, just sayin' money aint my reality and no one feeds me sounds like you have a serious dependency problem in regards to money. and dependency is dependency. iknow junkies who cant get by one day without their fix either it is exactly the same thing, i never judge, but most recognize how pathetic some junkies have let themself become of course you are sad and despite the many many laughs out loud i have had while just briefly looking at this thread you still wear your sadness on your sleeve i may be a bum but i aint sad i think you have been sold a false bill of goods edit> lets look at the title of this thread the Tao of Dying topic is good and there have been some imo very good posts and ideas expressed by yourself and some others. and it is an ongoing investigation rather than professing, so many changes of stances here and there for it to be professing. and with the investigating it is understandable(changes of stance) as so many posts made and ideas expressed. Tao has key concepts of Wu Wei and Zi Ran and altho i havnt read the entire thread, i know that these must have been introduced already. the reason i spoke to the money thing is that is where you are very consistent with your position. i dont reckon it really costs all that much to die, as it doesnt cost all that much to live. for me energy is more useful and interesting than money. so many do go in for this money money more money idea, it is a very common and generic idea and to be honest quite boring. an example obvious to me, is if someone bought a lottery ticket for me and i won sth like 590 million $. for me that would be the worse case scenario of all realities. it would not be welcome at all. and this is my view, someone who is not dependent on money, so if someone with the dependency gets flooded like that. it probably wont turn out good for them either. Tao is like water some say, a little is great, too much drowns you. it is like giving a crack head 250 ki's , will this enhance his life or kill him?

howdy welcome let the fun begin

good topic!

making progress and sometimes pie can be a very welcome thing, still b4 i rush to any judgement i want to know mpg's view on this recent development

jung has his famous commentary of The secret of The Golden Flower and how can the western mind deal with that material. and he also has his famous forward to the I Ching. he talks of the western consciousness and how it is not the only consciousness that there is and he tries to bridge the west to the eastern thought. he does talk about unity and the one, kinda like how sinfest says cut one into two and then cut them into one is that how sinfest says it? jung suggests that the unity of the two (life and consciousness), is the Tao so , jung is very much into the conscious and the unconscious. i remember a thread you had previous where a few of us went over that concept. jung also goes to suggest that the western mind has the same latent things in his unconscious as the eastern mind has, there are shared symbols etc "if we take the Tao to be the method or conscious way by which to unite what is separated, we have probably come close to the psychological meaning of the concept. at all events, the separation of consciousness and life cannot very well be understood as anything else than what i described earlier as an aberration or uprooting of consciousness. there can be no doubt, either, that the realization of the opposite hidden in the unconscious-the process of "reversal"-signifies reunion with the unconscious laws of our being, and the purpose of this reunion is the attainment of conscious life or, expressed in Chinese terms, the realization of the Tao" its not rational it is not will, it is a process that expresses itself in symbols. so that is jung's take, he of collective unconscious theory and symbols, a very psychological view but may correlate some with the philosophy view. idk

i dont wanna pie either! but i do not fear pie. i recount my idea of matching the content. i LOL many times looking at just a few of those pages.