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my definition of ideal conservative is likely not in line with gop thinktank. muir had the wisdom to know that we needed national parks. isnt the national park system one of the things a govt should be doing? emerson> self reliance and self responsibilty. thoreau> mistrust of an out of control centralized govt jefferson, paine, henry > bill of rights, free speech, champions of liberty wendell berry. a grass roots local approach. when we gave money the right of free speech it was one of the most blatant obscene attacks against persoanl liberty. when money is speech, there can be no free speech. that is obviously the point of that fascist elitist law. from my view and understanding a 'conservative" would never spend up our or any other's natural resources for the sole purpose of fast profits. gautemala is an example of this. also i would say that a true 'conservative' would lead a frugal simple lifestyle. our gop so called (false) conservatives (like rush limbaugh) who live decadent lavish lifestyles at the expense of others are not friends of liberty, they are in fact the enemies of. 2nd edit> i add teddy roosevelt to my list edit. the grass roots approach of from the bottom up is always more successful than a mandated from the top down approach

my definition of a conservative is a cross between john muir/ ralph waldo emerson/henry david thoreau/thomas jefferson/thomas paine/patrick henry/wendell berry

pocahontas was maybe 9 years old when contact was made. disney has made her into what every young american girl should aspire to be (at least thru the disney lens)

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chenping, how are you today? indeed iron sharpens iron. i do share your admiration for bruce lee and chidragon. chidragon is a gentleman and a scholar. this weekend i will be doing some "edgework" hope to catch up with you bums next week.

"Limiting the size and scale of all of them is absolutely in the interests of "the people." right right no more of that too big to fail ideal failing is a natural part of life, mine anyways, and it doesnt take away from a quality of life either. we learn from failures. "WE THE PEOPLE" occupy monsanto they have gotten waaaaaaaaaay tooooooo big

"or anti-GMO?" occupy monsanto now

"Why are you speaking in metaphors?" thanks for asking, chenping. the title of this thread is Mind, Void, Tao early on you posted; the boldings mine The Tai Chi master was talking about water, the nature of which is expounded in Chapter Eight: 上善若水. I have never understood the connection between the Tao Te Ching and Tai Chi which is martial art, the cultivation of violence to deal with violence. How is it possible for the way of wisdom to inspire the way of fools? Tai Chi, in physical combat, involves striking other people's bodies - with your head, fists, edge of your hands, tip of your fingers, elbows, knees, and feet - like water. You would use every part of your body - except your brain - to deal with violence. in fact the TTC references the principles of taijiquan often.violence does not have to be cultivated to deal with violence. you can use your mind and/or your brain. in fact you mentioned a gun somewhere and the gun does not approach the levels where the brain and/or the mind can go. the mind and/or brain are far more dangerous than a gun and they also may possess a trigger that can be cocked and ready to pull. i liked SMM's post that you didnt respond to, did you read it? absorb it? and vortex made a very nice post that you did respond to; vortex stated; " Well, a lot of Taijiquan involves de-escalating violence by defusing, neutralizing or countering it with less violent maneuvers." and you replied "In theory or intent, yes; but that works only in the practice hall where no one is suppose to intentionally hurt anybody. This is like gun-fighting using blanks for show." i strongly agree with vortex here and strongly dis-agree with you here. in fact at the higher levels this isnt seen in the practice hall and is only/very useful in a real situation. but it takes a certain skill level. then gerard expressed how "Tai Chi Chuan goes beyond fights and punches" and gerard brought up meditation and the latent power of meditaion. and you dismissed that right off. so that is kinda why i laughed at the absurdity. a martial artist who incorporates and understands the great power of meditation(and subtle energies) and how it can be used dangerously even. being challenged by someone who is not aware of such things. its alot like taking a spoon to a gun fight. trickster crow, in the new snow you caw caw like crazy laugh beacuse you know i am a fool too, like you skimming over the thin ice to the war going on all over the world. -- joy harjo --

scavenging is a useful art, i reckon. but when crows practice this art they come away with something useful, they dont have knee jerk reactions, or act rattled. feel a need to defend themself, or look at everything as a fight. but not many of us are clever enuff to be a crow. i think about that from time to time. ah ah "Why wouldn't that make you sit up and listen?" not only am i listening, i have engaged you in conversation. " Do you think you know everything yourself?" above my dragon, it says unknowing cloud.

looks like addiction and lack of knowledge is the problem. freedom is fine. on the anarchy thread i always remind about self-responsibility, self-reliance, and education. freedom does scare some folks tho, and to meet a truly free person is terrifying to some. wwroa, you are not afraid of freedom are you? we all deal with the in between of chains and flight

ah ah , figure or speech. sometimes i bring these things up for further clarification. no worries. and i am not gonna get in between any bums who choose to spar, fight, make love, what ever, glad you are hanging out chenping and if i didnt find you interesting i never woulda spoken to you. "You are damn right I am correct" and 'I am the real teacher' coulda been viewed as arrogant. i am curious what do you teach?

chenping "Why did you laugh?" for clarification, i didnt laugh at you or at anyone. i must have laughed at the absurdity of it all. and how absurdity surrounds us all. here, gerard was sharing knowledge and wisdom with you and instead of taking advantage of that, you instead speak arrogantly and challenge him to spar. it just seemed absurd to me. " I am fighting blind here" why are you even fighting? there is no reason, none, zilch, nope. relax chenping, chill and hang out with us bums, slowly chew on what is said here and find understanding and find yourself. that would be time well spent. launching a flying side-kick against a baguazhang player will end the whole thing right then and there, just saying.

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chenping, "Mine is too short for meditation" then you will never become a high level martial artist. when you challenged gerard to spar i laughed so hard i coulda fell out from my chair. edit> gerard is a man of peace and compassion and mercy, and skilz. think twice chenping

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thought i would share this morning, from joy harjo. was gonna put in cherokee immortals, but it fits nicely here, i thinks hehehe and gerard, i cant believe you said the word discipline! well i can , but it is kinda an inside joke for a few of us. the eagle poem

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