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great selection "a thousand warriors i have known" i passed thru italy, sold a few cartons of cigarettes and was a "millionaire " (well if you counted lira as money) David g handles a fender nicely. but ralis posting these classic rock videos is making me wanna have a "knee jerk reaction" and post more classic country hmmm ernest tubb was mentioned everyone likes Waltz Across Texas. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woAMgtaZw0 Marblehead knows that here in Ol' Cantuck' we dont mow our bluegrass, we PICK it. @sifusufi peppers have announced tour dates? amy winehouse http://news.yahoo.com/amy-winehouse-dead-suspected-drug-overdose-164151864.html

i thought about placing this on the "bumper stickers found on" thread anyways that thread reminded me of this old one http://www.bytebrothers.org/shitlist.htm edit>not intended to offend anyone hopefully no one is left out

the true man breathes thru his heels- chuang tzu

the greatest virtue is to follow the tao and the tao alone. seems clear enuff. tao is the reality from which all things, creations, admirables are manifested. latent in it are forms, objects, essences, but itself is formless and imageless. we understand it thru our connection to tao.

walkerinthewoods, are you in kentucky? maybe we walk in the same woods?

"Anyhow, neat how this thread moved from talking about our taking responsibility for our manifestations and action to a discussion of unity, oneness and dualities. " don't forget "self" and imo these are all tied together anyways. i just wanted to make sure i was placing this post on the right thread heheh would we have what we would call the "true self" ? is it the task of the psychologist to explore this idea? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_%28Jung%29 we have discussed here b4 on TTB this idea of a "collective unconscious". one important element in this theory is "the archetypes of the collective unconscious"; these archetypes are not inherited images. they are dispositions to form certain symbols and images. they cannot be known of themselves and they cannot be encountered directly. but they are encountered thru their manifestations in these symbols and/or images. Jung calls them 'the organs of the pre-rational psyche' and explains that as our physical organs are the result of a long process of bodily development, so the archetypes are the outcome of the whole inner experience of the human race. they are the centers of energy, of immense power, and the symbols thru which they are manifested. (and enshrining the deepest spiritual wisdom of the human race) Jung defines "self" as ' the archetypal image that leads out of polarity to the unity of both partial systems - thru a common mid-point' so, it is containing the idea of something which leads to a synthesis ,wholeness, the coming together of those polar opposites present in the phenomenal world. since,(according to Jung)the self itself is an archetype, it cannot be directly known, but only thru the symbols which are the manifestations of its archetypal energy. without a doubt this is described in psychological terms. sometimes Jung calls the self "the whole" other times "the periphery" or "the center of the psyche". that faculty ,or "organ of the psyche" may be what mystics call the spark, apex, center, ground of the soul, etc is this how we connect our personality with the tao? we do possess some possibility for the connection, right?

Marblehead, i certainly was not trying to defend or negate positions either. (just a rainy day here and i cannot go out into the woods to gather ginseng, so why not engage Mh in conversation? ) Mystery is undefinable. That is why it is called "Mystery". i agree with this. Mystery is idealism i disagree here. i still think it is undefinable. I cannot accept that there is a common thread uniting the peoples of the world. From the oldest recordings of the history of man there are records of all different groups of peoples killing each other. It continues today. I see no indications that this is going to change any time soon. i agree, (i didnt say peoples of the world were uniting) BTW We are all stardust. Astro-scientists love saying that now-a-days we are all made of stardust, sagan said so! But I am still an optimist me either!! er yeah i am an optimist However, I am still a Realistic-Nietzschian-Taoist for sure. i never imagined you in the schopenhaurer school of thought. But I'm not going to give you all my money just because you tell me that we all are one therefore what is mine is yours too. Sorry Buddy, that's just the way it is. i am in no way endorsing or suggesting any form of communism to take place. i do feel there does exist The One and there also exists an underlying Unity. i will continue those thoughts on the Unity thread. (maybe i was here just to plug my thread

i do agree totally about your comment about the mystery. as far as saying that " everything is one" is Buddhist (and whatever else) polluted idealism.... - not so fast- and here i am not suggesting that i know manitou's experiences or her reflections on those. i do notice that from all cultures and traditions there does seem to exist a common thread , perhaps mystically only, this common thread being "all is one" or a consciousness of the Oneness of everything. all creatures existence is experienced as a Unity (for those interested in knowing more about this, visit my thread - Unity) i think we have gone over many times here on TTB about the quality of ineffability. that it defies expression in terms that are fully intelligible to one who has not known some analogous experience. it resembles more a state of feeling than of a state of intellect. it is not possible to make a state of feeling clear to one who has not experienced it. the creation of the phenomenal universe is the coming out of Tao, the primal meaning and undivided unity behind everything. out of Tao sprang the principles of phenomenal reality. Yin and Yang. which are evident (at least to me and manitou) thru-out the universe (as it appears to us) there is no light except it is the opposite of darkness.. etc...yin and yang have their origin in the undivided unity. they are active (only) in the realm of phenomena. Tao produced unity (one); unity produced duality (two); duality produced trinity (three); trinity produced everything (10,000 things) Tao, without a name , is the beginning of heaven and earth. (non-being) with a name, it is the mother of all things. (being) these two things , the spiritual and the material, altho we call them different things, in their origin they are one in the same. this sameness is the mystery, "the mystery of mysteries" it is the gate of all wonders. (closest to that gate is unity(one))

i reckon the book i want to read , or wish to be translated is Sun Lu Tang's second book A Study of the 8 Trigrams

Let's face it. Not everyone is a Taoist Sage or a Buddha or a true Christian and is able to just let things come and go without being effected by them. We all have our emotions (feelings) and sometimes we are easily hurt If we intend to cause others any form of pain then I will state freely that this is not the Way of Tao It was relatively recently that I came to recognize the value in my life of cultivating love and compassion. Not from a religious sense, not for attainment, but for my own health. (I just couldn't say "follow"). A sage is a rare beast Yes, we should enjoy ourselves here. It is a unique opportunity. If folks really understood how great a privilege it is to be here now...things would be different. You have a great idea about how a sage would live. It's written all over the TTC The hard thing is walking like we talk Hard for me to see where they would find much joy in living. But then it has been reported that many of those peaple actually consider themselves happy. Yes, we all have the capacity to be a sage Tao's reality is that free will has induced some to go the opposite of harmony with Tao We definitely have a choice Yes, I know. I just wanted to take the scenic route to get there Why bother to go to the trouble of having a philosophy (and a damned good one at that) if we don't live it? And I totally agree that awareness of our surroundings is so very important. Sometimes we can be totally spaced out, venturing into the Mystery, and have not a single worry in our life. Othertimes, especially when we are in the unknown, we need be very vigil. Awareness consciously, the world unfolds at our feet, regardless of where we are. Both Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu were 'realists' There are several true Taoist "inner work" practices, these are not intellectual based but practical based. It is amazing edit> just working on my mirror symmetry

naw, i am the friendly neighborhood herbal bootlegger confidentiality is assured and expected if you want it in a hu lu drinking gourd that will raise up the price i am joking.....or, am i??

well yes , R_V, i wasnt gonna ask the cat lady out for a date even if she had some cool talented cats. EDIT> no thoughts about sudden laughter or spontaneous laughter?

if i have a surplus i will keep you in mind.

i have had good experience with lu rong and i am in the process now of making lu rong jiu (deer antler wine) i am not a doctor but if i were about to inject some powerful substance into my body, like hgh, i probably would consider asking a doctor about such things rather than just relying and accepting what an internet site that is selling a product says

as far as i know , trunk, you "invented" this very nice exercise by mis-understanding my earlier description of kunlun dragon#1 i do the "squat hands raised" from time to time and i find it helpful.

plumpub had it again for the original list price a couple of months ago. most likely it sold out quickly again idk another one i want is the sun lu tang xingyi book. edit> i kinda consider xingyi to be of shaolin origin but it is a great art. deep and profound like the tao

baguazhang martial,energetic,spiritual, and medical very taoist

blues is appreciated http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYrVwGxlcFA&feature=related and i will lay off the country for awhile i never said ralis was weird, a guy who is a horticulturist that also takes 800 level math classes as a hobby is just different in an interesting kinda way. but i do the same thing with geometry, so i wont call the kettle a pot. anyways the simple guy i am for me almost all music is blues. all that is except jazz.

emptying is good advice. do the math, if you don't empty the cup , then you have one full cup and if someone tries to pour more into it, it will just spill over. if you do empty your cup, as i do each morning, then i could soon have 100 cups. (in 100 days) and then 100(100) cups eventually which would be 10,000 cups. so me and aaron and cheng man-ching and lao tzu will continue to empty our cups. gih, you are free to hold on tightly to the ONE cup you have.

i just went into chat and it seems i discovered the great void wu wu or in other words it was lonely in there. edit> so i am in chat at the moment