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DOH!!!

perhaps but fluttering around and living care-free is kinda cool. i may even become a devout student of butterfly palms, who teaches that anyways?! but was there a reason it is a butterfly that Chaung Tzu dreampt of ? or the Butterfly dreampt he was chaung tzu? consider the butterfly and the life cycle of a butterfly. it starts off just the simplest of organisms , left on some leaf somewhere. then it develops into a wormlike caterpillar munching some leaves and in this growth cycle it sheds its skin a few times. and when it has experienced the right amount of growth it becomes a chrysalis ! :)probably doing alot of inner searching but in this stage doesnt this creature have its armour on and kinda shy away from the world, just trying to blend into its surroundings un-noticed. but then it decides to open its heart and to grow its wings and it comes out into the world a fragile and vulnerable creature but it doesnt care it has become a care free and beautiful being. very in sync with the tao. it belongs and knows its place in the world. it flutters where it will and fulfils its destiny. such transforamtion and do we measure everything by the amount of time? or do we measure by being able to transform fully and reach our destiny?

yeah me too afterall it IS just another wonderful day in the tao. this morning seemed especially wonderful. as i walked to town after doing my morning meditation and qigongs. anyways i noticed something, this little poor town, no jobs, no prospects, no money etc etc yet the town was filled with laughter as folks were going about their daily chores and embracing their mundane existence. acceptance?

baguazhang

omg somebody used the moon for nuclear weapons testing in your dream when you landed on the moon , did it clink? like hollow metal? if the astronauts had 6 arms and 2 legs how can you know if they were the spiders from mars?

i cast my vote for mYTHmAKER.

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Choose wisely > led me to a random thought with the freedom to choose , as we all have that , every choice is an opportunity to select the best possible outcome , the one that would make us the happiest . more choices would lead to more happiness, right? or do we find the opposite to be true? as choices increase, does anxiety also increase? we do have the freedom to choose, right?

quote name='Immortal4life' date='21 June 2011 - 12:39 PM' timestamp='1308685199' post='267841'] I have seen animals control their passions, but I have not seen them conquer or eliminate them. so , this is your observation only. and considering the rest of your post i am curious about your use of the words conquer and eliminate. and here you say; Human beings are different than the animals in the sense that humans can separate from Nature, they can choose to act in ways not natural to their own nature. They can choose to act in ways other than their purpose and place in nature would dictate. i still stand by my : human beings ARE animals not different than. so you must be saying that ALL other animals except human beings act in the same way? if this is your idea, i will suggest that other animals do possess brains and have a capability to think and to choose. then this; When you start talking about one "race" eliminating another "race", it begins to sound like Colonialism, Social Darwinism, and Evolutionism. can you explain how you equate evolution with genocide?

is one of the mirrors a bagua mirror? and if so, is it flat, convex, or concave? this may be the result of a great master who tried to vs a bagua mirror so always use caution when trying to vs a bagua mirror

this inner experience is an interfusion of subject and object. chuanz tzu is the subject and the butterfly is the object. but, he says, it might be the butterfly that was dreaming of itself as a man, making the butterfly the subject and chuang tzu as the object. is it possible to make a distinction between subject and object? so for me it is not about illusion, but it is an awareness of the identification and the interpenetration of the self and the non-self. is this one of the keys that helps to unlock the mystery that we call the tao?

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i communicate with animals each and everyday. yes, sometimes they do complain about their mistreatment. this morning not long after i had awoke , there was a noise downstairs i couldnt identify. i walked down the steps and in my sun room , there was a male cardinal, not quite full grown. the noise i heard was him furiously beating his wings aginst my window, trying to return to the outdoors.( i leave some of my windows open) the window he was trying to fly thru was one i had an extra lock on. i greeted him. "hello little birdy, just relax and i will let you out" he flew up to the upper corner of the room. i am sure my arrival to the room added to his anxiety. i unlocked the window and went outside to push it open from there , so i would not be in the birds path when he saw his opportunity. i walked back in the house , no noise but when i walked back into the sun room the cardinal was standing on the floor , he looked at me and calmly flew out the window.

for sure humans are animals, in the mammals, in the primates. i generally liked Harmonious Emptiness post, but " since other animals do not have the same opportunity to conquer passions (not inspiration, but lust, greed, selfishness)." here i differ in opinion and observation. i do see many animals dealing with greed, selfishness, lust, jealosy, agression.i have seen some animals overcome these. ("you can observe alot just by watching" yogi berra ) ah, the inconceivable nature of nature @ steve f, are you saying the native american and other indigenous peoples fell victim to the earth not being suitable for them or they fell victim to other peoples with higher technology?

Charming the snakes and inhaling them through the nose and out the mouth. Must use the youngest snakes since they are the smallest and will fit. hmmm, so it would be like this? then there is a parable? parabola? http://dennislewisblog.com/2009/12/19/the-snake-who-wanted-to-become-a-monk-a-parable-from-g-i-gurdjieff/ as i hoped the snake breathing would enhance my focusing of waves (as sifu kepler suggested it may) there is an example on the riverbank in saint louie today i think i will focus on "snake creeps down" in the yang style.

if anyone of you have ever walked up on iron beams high in the sky. high rise construction fun. you will notice all the other guys up there walk in one of 2 ways. they either walk like they are doing xingyiquan or else the walk pigeon toed. and if you are up there you need to find out quickly which of these works best for you.

i do play a little with a tibeten snake. if i could only breathe like a snake. i do have some friends who play some green bamboo viper. hopefully they will share. did i mention that i did a bit of surfing those waves while i was at the Dirac sea? and you could surf them backwards!

f.h. bradley in his book Appearance and Reality http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._H._Bradley "reality is above thought and above every partial aspect of being, but includes them all. each of these completes itself by uniting with the rest, and so make the perfection of the whole. and this whole is experience, for anything other than experience is meaningless." imo bradley attempts to reach reality by intellectual analysis and discovers that there is limitation of attainment inherrent in rational thought. rational thought is a neccessary step toward the attainment of reality, but reality itself is above rational thought and above every partial aspect of being. it is rather by experience , or as bradley says , " a higher immediacy by which we grasp the nature of reality" this higher immediacy is the wholeness of experience, which , as he says, must be immediate, like feeling but not like feeling. immediately at the level below distinction and relation. in the process approaching reality we inevitably reach a stage which is beyond intellectual thought , where mere intellection becomes helpless, and we can only intuitively experience it. in the conclusion of Appearance and Reality, he says, "reality is one experience , self-pervading and superior to mere relations. its character is the opposite of the fabled extreme which is barely mechanical, and it is, in the end, the sole perfect realization of spirit. we may fairly close this work then by insisting that reality is spiritual." what is this realization of spirituality of which bradley speaks? is it not the process of the awakening of a new consciousness? imo , for the chinese this new consciousness is not new at all. it is the self-consciousness to be realized to the depths, that is , consciousness turning inwards into itself. there is a zen expression, it is the seeing of one's own "original face" before one is born. therefore(imo)the realization of spirituality as one experience or "awakening" of a new consciousness is simply the consciousness coming into its own unconsciousness. taoist expression might be , the former is T'ai Chi or ultimate and the latter , Wu Chi , or the ultimateless. this realization of spirituality as one experience , is it express by Lao Tzu as a "return to the ultimateless" ?

quote name='steve f' date='11 June 2011 - 02:37 PM' timestamp='1307828238' post='266158'] One interesting theory is that experimentation with entheogenic drugs around 20,000 years ago caused a transformation of consciousness. if it worked before i am willing to try it now i know native american peoples that were here when the europeans started coming over are not cosidered cavemen, even if many were cliff dwellers . but they were looked upon as primitive people non-the-less. there is the story of an old Cherokee woman explaining to pioneers in the 1700's how the appalchian mountains, now just eroded hills, were once 5 miles tall and were once even island arcs surrounded by sea. how could she or the cherokee peoples know this? well they have the same senses that we have and they have the same minds , and with the observations over the years of fossil remains in the limestone. which was coral reef and the sandstone which was the beach, they were able to come to the same conclusions as educated people. furthermore the further back in time we go we discover that the implements, tools, projectile points were highly more detailed and functional to the level of works of art than the more recent peoples were able to produce. i personally like the woodland archaic projectile points of about 6500-7500 years ago. those pine tree points are cool. but if we go back to 12,000 years ago that workmenship is far superior to anything found since.

the poisson does this relate to the decay of the atom in the room with bobby? my Happy level is already high but if i thought torus693 would be there, i may try and make it. dragon visitors, yes many times, never a golden one tho. snake bagua would be nice to see sssssssssssssssssleeeeeeeeeepsssssssss sleeper edit> i looked at the website and there are subjects i am interested in, i think it is complimentary to my bagua play. but can one of you K guys confirm that for me?

thank you templetao. thanks for speaking up.

to see things relatively is to recognize them in their diversities but in an absolute sense, diversities are reconciled into unity.the former represents the all, the latter represents the one.

bang a gong indeed . i agree i do have a question tho, is there a snake at the bottom of the well?