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ah, well thank you for the responses. and also thanks for the tip about the micro exelerite clay on the other thread. i am not at/in/with any conflict for me there is no need to enter into one.

hang in there cat pillar, i think we all go thru something similar to this, from what i have seen of your posts on TTB, it looks encouraging. are you doing any type of qigong or tai chi? maybe you need to work on grounding, then you will find your center.

i must have. i admit i have not kept up on this thread too much, just a glance in now and then. but as to your remark about on this website barely a hint of tao to be found. and i realize it is none of my bizness but i am curious why you frequent a website and post when you see little useful activity.

May i ask your purpose on this web-site? If you feel it is waste of energy?

sometimes i just have to laugh at myself. yesterday i was doing some circle walking in the yard and there were these robins walking everywhere. i nearly stepped on one. they were probaly trying to show me a better way to walk idk.

just found this thread put me in the pro-ginkgo camp. there are ginkgo trees that i visit each year.(100 years + in age, the trees, not me) i never took ginkgo as a memory aid. it also depends on if the leaf used was green or yellow when harvested becoz they give entirely different results. green is not better than yellow, and yellow is not better than green , it depends on what you are trying to adress.

well, it's not just for breakfast anymore ....wise.... this is the time of year i find deer antler more useful than just some material for making knife handles or mounting on a wall.

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is consuming the select herbs that strengthen connective tissue, tendons, bones, marrow, considered a lazy way?

the most powerful antioxidants on the planet are found in berries. gogi berries, blue berries, black berries, pomegranate..most berries, fruits and vegetables and some nuts and seeds have good antioxidant levels. green and white tea also.

vortex; very nice, thanks. i would like to have that up on one of my walls. i have also heard that turtle meditation is very key to this type of goal? in your signature it says knowledge can be taught, skill must be practiced. do you play some baguazhang? do you think baguazhang practice can lead to taoist immortality?

think of it as a chi kung exercise. or a chi kung to do before other chi kung. here i will call it the first of the 3 main frames. it will activate the body's natural waves and pulses. it raises vibrational frequency. it will open you up. in your drawing in #2 are you squatting? becoz this and the other 2 main frames are standing on a triangle you have found raised up on the ball of your feet. so if i said "sit" just above the place where you find the pain in your calf. maybe it is better if i say rest or find your sweet spot , just above the calf pain. most folks will find pain in the shoulders, in this case you will just have to deal/work thru that. there are also 3 squatting exercises to be done after the standing ones. doing the squatting ones and use of hand mudras temper these connections made to heaven and earth. it this didnt answer your question? let me know. i like to share.

it is such a wonderful sunny day i am about to step out into. thought i would leave a love song or 2, 3 b4 i go visit my "other" friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lge9NmRSC9o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIdbroOLvhw i peeked out the front door and so many yellow daffodills

-O- you make some points that make sense to me. in regards to this early 20's generation and a bit younger, i have great confidence in them. from what i have seen they are remarkable in their spirit and towards me they have shown kindness and great respect. even to the point at times it has truly humbled me. did we ever say what this "tao training" is specifically? no one owns the tao or controls it either. my understanding is, it is cool to be in harmony with the tao. i never try and criticize anyone , i cannot determine what struggles they are dealing with or which battles they are now fighting. each and everyone one of us, regardless of social status, age, experience,knowledge is dealing with this in some form.

today i am just gonna walk around whistling & enjoying the sunshine, will find some trees to play with. will also touch base with the I- ching. may stop in and visit a blind girl i know.

ok, now i have gone thru and read the posts on this topic. @ fiveelementtao. in my view this thread was started by you because you were considerate and did not want to hijack the Difference Between 3 Qigong Style thread? because of an exchange of ideas between you and sloppy zhang on that thread? so ,wasnt the idea of this thread to continue that conversation here? You make many valid points and you have alot of experience and knowledge. so why would you have a Reply To the Internet Generation discussion and then put sloppy zhang on ignore? sloppy zhang was giving insight directly from a member of the internet generation. was your intention here to have a conversation or to lecture?

general disclaimer> i have not read any post on this topic. since i became active on TTB in novemeber, i expected this conversation. i understand that in the 60's,70's, 80's. folks who wanted authentic high level chi kung, kung fu, tai chi, etc etc. would expect to have to pay big big bucks. i know a guy personally who in '74 paid 3500$ for 1 tang lang form from taiwan. he felt he had basically stolen it. i know of a guy who paid 20 grand for a chi kung method. i respect the pioneers who brought true art to the rest of us. some did it with idea of bizness investment and looking for ROI. folks were expected to swear loyalties, kiss ass, never question a guru, etc etc. then it was definately a teachers market. then we came to the dvd and book boom. youtube, ttb, etc expanded the horizon. it became more of a students market. everyone starts to use the same phrase "now is the time for this knowledge to be made available" and that phrase is very true. books and dvds are useful, especially if one already has a working knowledge. it lets me sample and investigate and practice from a wide variety of styles and teachers. i am able to find what resonnates well with me. in a price range i consider reasonable. do i look at books/dvds as a substitute for a real live teacher? no, but it is conveinent to play the dvd when i am ready. it also lets me know which style of art i will look for a teacher in. i live in a remote area, i just traveled 150 miles to play some bgz with a few guys. who else can/will do this? for me i treasure the teacherS i have AND i treasure the books/dvds in my collection.

it has been a very steady rain. i am up on higher ground , still the ground is just saturated and large pools of water are forming all around. i wonder about my own house 150 miles away and along a creek but this morning the sounds of the rain and a gentle rumble of scattered thunder. was very relaxing as i just wanted to stay in bed. then there was some minor racket of noise on my window sill?? so, i got up...opened the shutters and there was a squirell , just looking in. it seemed a little nervous looking at me so close up. it stayed there looking anyways. as the day has gone on the sound of the rain has changed from just pounding onto the ground to more of a splashing on the pools of water. the song birds are making such sweet joyful music. i guess they dont mind the rain. there is the steady rythymn sound of the rain with the melody of the song birds and the thunder bass. very nice live music playing here today.

is this book an overview, or does it provide specific details for practice?

Alice went thru a rabbit hole, or a looking glass to a rabbit hole? and encountered the white rabbit who had a watch that was mal-functioning(running past?).

yeah it works nicely maybe not as strong as the laogong but i have put more effort there. maybe that is why? 99% of this idea i got from your post here . the other 1% came from ,when in some stances , some folks choose to scrunch up their toes. so between the scrunching and the stretching..should be able to get something going on with it.

could do this same idea with feet for K1?

could play baguazhang all day with friends.