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seems like you are resorting to one of your old tactics, to insult members here and do it dismissively as you have done numerous times since your arrival on this forum. another tactic you use frequently is to say that some member said things that they never said, you use this tactic to take the conversation to where you want it to go. these tactics of yours, pushing a false narrative by posting someone said things they never did and dismissive insults to members here is certainly not in good faith. in fact it is obviously an act of bad faith. when you first arrived on this forum you immediately began trolling attacks against vitali, i remember as i was a mod then. at the time there was a lot of reorganizing of the forum and somehow you slipped through the cracks and got placed on the back burner. well your behavior here has not improved. i have received pm from other members that tried out the school that you constantly promote here. not one gave it a favorable review, but i digress. that isnt the issue, your behavior on this board is. the issue from my pov is your dismissive insulting attitude, i can see how another member on this thread brought up virtue, looking back my one regret as a mod here was not banning you a few years ago. you have a pattern of insulting remarks here that spans years.

perhaps you were reading something into my post #50 that i didn't put in it ? i did not attach that post to another, if i had quoted a prior post and used my post as a continuation, then, that would be different. but i didn't. my post is stand alone on its own. today is a new day was my point. we may have our own views on some things, may hold them to be true and dear, but until we arrive at some new place "over yonder" i think to speak to that would be speaking out of turn. you didnt ask me my opinion, you asked if i know

instead of considering the epistemological, ontological, or metaphysical existential or nihilist i just appreciate the yonder breaking sunrise today for me it looks glorious in its potential others may choose a different interpretation c'est la vie

for yonder breaks a new and glorious morn

relating

NIP ? sounds like code talk for nip as in catnip i reckon the underlying agenda is for all the states to go pro-catnip? party indeed party party

understanding

RIP leonard cohen ^^

i predict that the sun will rise tomorrow

i have several pm regarding this thread, i will briefly lock it while i review and act as i feel appropriate. it will be back open soon. thanks for understanding. edit>> after reviewing the thread and possibilities; effilang, myself, and dawei decided to split the thread. this portion will remain here in "Systems and Teachers of" effi has organized initiation events and is much more well versed in daoist terminology than i am, effi now has the owner's permissions here. i am in it as my main personal practice, so it makes sense to me to move the original portion of the thread to my PPF. it wasnt that i wanted to keep a great system all to myself in fact i tried to open it up for others. i always liked the way effi was able to answer questions using specific daoist terminology. ^^

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clintons-charity-confirms-qatars-1-million-gift-while-001205827.html

this if from hillary's fb page just now "Polls in Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio are all trending towards Trump. we've been fighting too hard and for too long to let this slip through our fingers now."

Cesar Vargas "Why I Can No Longer Support Hillary Clinton" is a thoughtful post by the founder of uplift.com

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/larry-kudlow-hillary-clinton-investigation-president/2016/11/03/id/756931/

wow, where the heck have you been?

You always have your own freedom of choice guys. you are not put under any trance etc you gain awareness. You could quit anytime you like and that is that. If a system works for someone then likely they will stick with it. If a system does not work for someone then they likely won't. there is no need to get an "un-initiation" if you quit asking for FFS to show up and you don't feel like meditating or doing some cultivation, like Dao Yin Shu then your lack of interest/sincerity/resonance/affinity--whatever you want to call it is likely to end the arrangement anyways. does it matter how many levels there are? doesn't it matter more the types of daoist skills you are achieving, how your life is improving ? edit>> "These are solemn karmic vows you are making." what solemn karmic vows did i take?? i am encouraged to acquire merit i imagine that effi has his focus on the UK initiation event this weekend.

Remember, remember the fifth of November

looks like november 5th all hell breaks loose, or not we'll see

"Despite Sanders’ surging popularity, he never had a chance: "In an April 2014 email, campaign manager Robby Mook discusses coordinating the schedule of the Democratic primaries to maximize benefit for Hillary Clinton. “We agreed that if she gets a significant primary challenger, we need to consider changing course and getting N.Y., N.J. and maybe others to move their dates earlier to give her hefty early wins,” Mook wrote. “We may need allies to help in this process but we’re going to look at each state one step at a time, limiting as much as possible the perception of direct intervention by the principals.” The email provides further evidence that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Clinton campaign colluded to rig the primaries for Hillary Clinton. Other emails released by WikiLeaks confirmed the debate schedule was coordinated to the Clinton campaign’s preference. A recent thread revealed then-DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz was directed to hold phony meetings with other Democratic candidates to provide the Clinton campaign and DNC with plausible deniability that they were coordinating with one another." edit>>excuse me for being the type of guy who appreciates level playing field and dislikes rigging, cheating, lying, etc

i agree it is a bizarre election, and if you check thru, you will not find me touting trump, you are aware of 5 ongoing fbi investigations (that we are aware of) targeting hillary, bill, and the clinton foundation? maybe she can hold a conversation, but it is proven she is a pathological serial liar. and i dont think it is cool at all that the dnc stole the primaries from bernie. as much as a problem the rnc had with trump at least they let the process play out for better or worse. at the beginning of my 2016 election thread, i openly stated that i was bitterly opposed to any more bush or clinton family member returning to the white house. my position on that hasnt changed. if you did do your homework on clinton, i suspect that your opinion would change. for me personally, i might be better off under a clinton presidency, maybe. but all i see happening is one investigation after another and how will that provide a working government? no matter who gets in , it is scary dangerous times coming up, probably better to start paying closer attention

trump has a wide lead over clinton with veterans and active duty personnel from new york to seatle http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/03/us/politics/donald-trump-veterans.html in fact gary johnson outpolls hillary clinton among active duty http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/this-poll-of-the-us-military-has-gary-johnson-tied-with-donald-trump-in-the-race-for-president hillary's support among active duty is about 16% looks like they do not want any part of her being the commander in chief or having access to the nuke codes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iLgGEDioBQ

i had decided to stay away from the political threads here once, then this 2016 election arrived and it was such a novel event (from my pov) i had to return to the political threads. no worries the election will be over soon, and then we can have a the day after the election thread!

" If an Immortal (a very wise being) wants to teach you they will come to you physically first, never mentally, you will be thrown around like a rag doll sometimes, you will understand that they are there and they will move you so powerfully..."---FH don't i know it. when i returned home after my 2012 initiation i was punched (in a friendly way) stoutly in the shoulder by an unseen being that said "goooood" in a voice i could not determine if it was male or female. and i have been thrown around like a rag doll numerous times. one night in 2014, my son (who was not initiated) was visiting from florida and i had hoped he could help me do some work on my house, but he had been complaining about a serious shoulder injury, one morning when he got up, he told me some strange unseen being visited him was manipulating in shoulder and arm in strange ways, long story short his shoulder was fixed and my housework got done. edit>> i disagree about it having to be physical first rather than mental, but, one does need to have it become physical as soon as possible. bagua play has never been the same.