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i play with jows. the three i have on my shelf now are http://seaofchi.com/Martial-Training-305/Dit-Da-Jows-Iron-Palm-311/Dit-Da-Jow-Bak-Fu-Pai%E2%80%99s-Coconut-Break-premade-iron-palm-N318oz this is my third bottle from seaofchi. i like the formula and have also used the same formula brewed by other people too. i play with coconut and this seemed an obvious choice. http://seaofchi.com/Martial-Training-305/Dit-Da-Jows-Iron-Palm-311/Dit-Da-Jow-Clouds-in-Heaven-Jow-premade-8oz-bottle-313 this feels wonderful on contact and hands/palms get all clouds in heavenly. http://seaofchi.com/Martial-Training-305/Dit-Da-Jows-Iron-Palm-311/dit-da-jow-Big-Hand-premade-FOBH8OZ this one when i put on my hands felt weird (especially at first) and i have slowly started using it more. today the weird feeling wasnt noticable. after play the hands do feel good and changed. i like that part of it. i can tell the hands are enhanced. maybe i had the weird feeling becoz there are more than just herbs in this formula. "The inclusion of pit viper in this prescription makes for one powerful jow, as well as the addition of deer tendon, rou cong rong, xue jie, tu bei chong, pig bone, pipe fish, etc." the more i use it the more i like it

ok, finally, i found a clinton statement that i do agree with; when she says that 9/11 is as close a depiction to hell she ever experienced (and surely, she has experienced a lot of it (hell) https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-911-ground-zero-hell-153640476.html i have left my 2016 election thread (unless something unforeseen happens) and will leave this one now on this note, that i posted something that was not trolling hillary clinton. i am heading back up to the major threads, general and daoist, but will keep climate chaos going down here and the occasional bird or cool pic thread.......

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i call it utopia because i think it will take a revolution or a Major event, big M to overturn the current system. you may have a long view and think that in a few generations we could "evolve" (word you used) to a randian world. i think by then the feudalist corporatist will have devoured about everything useful. change does happen. sometimes slowly sometimes quickly. not everything can be precisely forecast. unexpected and/or unintended events occur. and how much time/energy/money/opportunity cost any of us spend on things/ideas will vary from individual to individual

alright then, i guess it is cleared up (like the dissipated exhaled smoke of my morning bowl--which resembles your randian utopian pipe dream) go ahead and implement it. i am ready to see this one true reality.

i am starting to be reminded of Pol Pot in cambodia . the khmer rouge were convinced that a narrow reality existed and that the entire country should have a single focus of agriculture. one of the most brutal anti humanitarian totalitarian regimes lasted 3 decades or so before that utopia failed. karl, you are not a totalitarian are you? how do you handle the to be displaced govt workers that MH mentioned? will there be re-education camps? i still think the larger issue is dealing with the feudalist corporatists, i doubt they peacefully give up their stranglehold on us

if it is such a simple system, easily understood by children, then why has it never took hold anywhere? ask yourself that. i think your dna is deeply ingrained with the puritan work ethic ideal, which is fine. the thing is tho, that not everyone is wired up like that. not every primitive society evolved in the same way. you are supposing that all the ills and bad actors will vanish in the face of your randian utopia's laws and justice. if it never happened before, why would it happen anytime? in some small enclaves, i suggest your ideology does exist. but having it spread worldwide or even in a single nation hasnt happened or will it. it is good to be a dreamer and see a good vision. yet, you have brought up reason and reality into your argument, and you appear to be not able to reasonably grasp how things are reality wise. how will you handle the feudalist corporatist who are in control now? when the wall fell and the iron curtain vanished, a lot of those people were starry eyed with dreams of a better life, maybe acquire some wealth, the ones who ventured west to where they were convinced utopia was to be found, how has that worked out for the overwhelming majority of them? do not bring up into your argument and mention of folks just wanting " free stuff" i agree that the feudalist corporatist wants "free stuff" and everything else that they can gobble up. i dismissed that idea of yours from the start. we are most likely in the same generation and except for a very small % i have never seen folks who expected or even desired "free stuff" ever what i am saying is that your view is too narrowly confined. simple is good, i am simple but having a narrow view is same as wearing blinders. you have to look at the entire picture an interdisciplinary approach is more evolved than just expecting one discipline to remedy all even if that discipline is economics. i think you make great assumptions and some of those will prove false if tested. the same reason my ideal of anarchy cannot come into true fruition is the same as why a randian utopia will not either. aristotle suggested ways to live a flourishing life. it works for some and not for all.

if your thesis is that a peaceful voluntary exchange of goods and services without coercive interference was what the amercian economy was in the 19th century? that gets tossed out at first glance. no need to continue this debate.

back to hillary and trump or hillary anyways, the same hillary that claimed she didnt know a "C" denoted classified https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/940e14b8-f3b3-3cae-ad9d-3eaa1f356540/ss_julian-assange%3A-%26%2339%3Bwe-have.html

aint too many in poor rural areas either

playing bagua is like paying yourself edit>any qigong is like that daoist meditation is where you really really pay yourself

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i like jeon woochi's flute of prophecy experience in Taoist Wizard (based on a korean folk tale) as a good example of how a taoist could 'play' with "time"