This Mr. Kwan is the person I had studied Tai Chi from for the last ten years off and on. I am not the sort to care much about what was written or what was said about anyone else. I prefer to see for myself and make my own decisions. Mr Kwan has shown me and others a lot of forms with little to no sparring. He sounds knowledgable as questions regarding these forms and thier applications are always answered thoroughly and specifically. I never took much if any Martial arts before so I am perhaps not a qualified judge of these things. As to Mr K's abilities, I do not think I could 'beat him up' and anything further than that is something I consider none of my buisness. Or someone elses problem if you will. I do not really care what Mr Kwan or Frank Kai or whoever this gentleman is to others. He has exhibited compassion and friendship towards myself and others. I have seen this. I also have seen that Mr Kwan is a human being too. Not some arhart, saint or archangel decended to earth to help out folks with thier Martial Arts. If people want to set him on a pedestal to knock him off it (good luck) or mourn his fall from thier grace, this is not Mr, K's problem. To me anyways. This "I really do not care about credentials, what I get out of something personally counts most." attitude that I am trying to express is one that works for me. I do not wish to imply that it should work for anyone else. In other words, I like Mr. Kwan. As far as I am concerned, everyone else can make up thier own mind. As it is, not everyone likes me. I expect it would be the same for Mr. Kwan. His teaching style is, what I think, a traditional one. Emphisis is on paying attention and if you miss something, oh well, sorry about your bad luck. I have learned to learn in this manner or style of teaching that I have seen frustrate others. A little. I have learned less Martial Arts from him than I have learned to consider and somewhat accept this teaching style. This alone is value to me. At fiftyone, I can say that I have gained both emotionally and physically from my association with Mr Kwan. Others may not have. And for various reasons too. Different strokes for different folks. And FYI, the attitude that someone 'chooses' to take classes from this man should be considering that his classes are attended according to Mr. Kwan's choosing as well. He has refused students, kicked them out of class and pokes fun at all, including himself. In other words, Prima Donna's need not apply. As it has been said that life is an illusion, what may next be considered is; Are we being 'illusioned'? or are we 'illusioning' ourselves? rt