Sunya

hi everyone.. glad to be back on this forum with so many curious and open seekers.. and hello Santiago, i believe I emailed you or Tao a year ago to confirm Glenn's passing.. he was my first teacher.. path notes really opened me up to the possibilities of Kundalini and the amazing experiences following the major point i'd like to address with anyone reading is what Glenn said here this is, in my opinion, what many people are missing. i was too, lost in phenomena for a while.. interested in out of body astral happenings, energy work, even tried kunlun for 3 months. but it wasn't until i met my teacher that i realized what all this is... further trappings of the ego.. another layer of maya (illusion) if you are really seeking truth.. i urge you not to get caught up in any of this. it only reinforces the illusion of who you are. many of you here realize that you are not the physical body, but you are not the energy body either, nor are you the soul.. or whatever else may be at your locality. in essence, you are God, everything. NON DUALITY (the Tao or Shiva or Christ Consciousness or Kingdom of Heaven or nirvana..trying to be multi cultural here) is the truth that must be embraced. Kundalini (shakti) is the teacher that guides us to this realization by pulling out the rug underneath our false feet and making us constantly ask the question What is truth.. Who am I? Is there an I? doing energy work and wanting to be healthy is fine.. but has nothing to do with truth. there is the illusion that energy work clears blockages which is necessary for spiritual evolution. blockages are subconscious fears and habits that must be addressed. the best and fastest way to progress is to surrender and not associate with the body, mind, or emotions. awakening kundalini is great, but that is just the first step. having a momentary glimpse is awesome.. but not the end. Santiago you said earlier that there is no end, i disagree. the ego doesn't want an end.. because the only end is the end of the false self (ego) and that is the only way to realize truth.. surrender fully. many people get caught up in psychic and subtle phenomena, believing that this is the end. they can heal people, teach them, have great experiences.. but this isn't the end. the end is the end of you (who you think you are) Santiago, you also said that if the kundalini isn't there you die.. how can this be? the body may die, but how can you die? there is no you.. lol. you studied Buddhism and Hinduism, you must have learned about no-self in Buddhism.. and Shiva/Shakti in hinduism. Shiva being consciousness (formless) and Shakti form. very similiar to Dzogchen which has the primordial nature or being without any form. i highly suggest the author Jed McKenna and his books Enlightenment the Damndest thing and Spiritually incorrect enlightenment.. these books made me really ANGRY and CONFUSED for months after reading them because Mckenna pretty much says 99% of spirituality is bullshit and not truth. How can this be? well, its true. further trappings of the ego. if you'd like the books, i have them in e-book.. PM me very longwinded post, i apoligize.. but have been scouring this forum today and feel that there are many eager seekers falling into ego trappings here mikael EDIT have greated a seperate topic for this.. please see here http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=5785 thank you

WYG, why are you still so concerned with Kunlun? i suggest you look into more concrete practices where the teacher can actually be affirmed. i'd like to know who gave Max his title of Lama, has he gone through the 3 year 3 month retreat? if so, why is he teaching practices that don't lead one to the dharma at all. it all seems like clever marketing and people getting high off sexual energy and calling it enlightenment

that was an interesting video to watch...but it sounded like the guy was just grasping for straws most of the time. many assumptions

i did that for 6 months or so. it just made me sleepy and bored not my path, i'm sure it works for you guys though. i just don't like the outlandish claims that this is the root practice of all religions, thats bs. just seems like watered down chigung for the modern westerner. also, i think its important to look at the students of max to see if it really works or not. it isn't about energetic development but how they act and treat others. it seems like this board is full of ego, so maybe we're all on the wrong path

hope you guys had a good new years. i just spent the last 4 days at an ashram, we brought in the new year with 9 hours of group mantra chanting (singing) it was amazing

bye

15 years! what kind of circular paths are you taking man? bahahah dude this is awesome advertising for Kunlun. keep it up people will read your posts and instantly be attracted, you really shine with your enlightened selfless words. i vote cam for kunlun mascot if you're a beginner why are you acting like some arrogant false-guru?

so much ego and arrogance for such a spiritually advanced person. if thats where you got after 11 years i'm going to take the complete opposite path.

hey cam not to burst your bliss bubble but WYG is right. don't be so closed up that you can't accept dissenting viewpoints. if you're so sensitive and emotional and touchy like a PMSing housewife, whats so great about your practice if you're totally out of balance with reality and can't even handle a couple of hecklers? even a comedian can handle hecklers and you're striving for freakin' ego loss here. if you want an objective view you can't just rely on yourself and those that agree with you. no one is being a dick purposely to you or kunlun or max or chris. people just ask questions, does that bother you so much? are you afraid of something maybe the possibility that this amazing practice you 'finally found' is not that great after all? i'm not saying that's true.. but just a thought. i myself was pretty let down after reading Jed Mckenna's book and realizing that all this energy cultivation has nothing to do with enlightenment, but hey the truth hurts sometimes. if you'd rather live in fairy tale land then that's your choice, i just think deep down inside you are concerned with the truth.. in which case you should stop trying to isolate yourself and reacting to dissent like a teenager when she's told that backstreet boys suck, or whoever else is popular these days.

http://www.brugerforeningen.dk/bfny.nsf/0/...20News&S=UK booya scary.

damn. YOU...you're good. you had me fooled.

with a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever. Always thinking that just behind some narrow door in all of his favorite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks from things he'll never know.

there he goes. one of God's own prototypes. a high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. too weird to live, and too rare to die.

isn't something supposed to happen though in 2012. like the earth sun and galactic core will be on the same plane and that happens very rarely, like every 6k years. it might affect us somehow. who knows if you think about it though, every generation has thought they were going to be the last pretty much. the end of the world is a common tool used for fear control. the whole mayan thing is interesting though, but i dont think it will be the end of the world. raising of consciousness? maybe. i'm not placing any bets though, just going to focus on myself, and if the rest of the world joins me.. that will make me happy

blah blah cam, you haven't found anything if you act like a little teenage girl whenever someone disses your guru. you're a pitbull wearing a tutu and you ain't foolin' anyone. bahahh maybe i should start putting after each post so as not to get your panties in a knot. i just joke buddy, chill out. don't take everything so seriously. words shouldn't affect you so

i said over a week ago that there should be a separate kunlun forum but was told to ignore the threads if i wasn't interested. hmph :> i'm glad you're seeing the light now, despite your racial handicaps.

Who are these people, these faces? Where do they come from? They look like caricatures of used car dealers from Dallas, and sweet Jesus, there were a hell of a lot of them at 4:30 on a Sunday morning, still humping the American dream, that vision of the big winner somehow emerging from the last minute pre-dawn chaos of a stale Vegas casino.

hahahha im starting to like zen

as long as WYG is allowed to join, i'll be there for the cat fights. it just wouldn't be the same without him kunlun rox hissss! what is bliss rawrr!! max sux but teach me rwarAWER#@)#@

bhahah I GET IT!

an enlightened master lets go and doesn't say anything or if he does kunlun, he flies away

hmph. seems not my friend. don't eat your words now, it's too late for that. you contended that it was the only way and that your path is the only one. if you didn't want an intellectual dabate you shouldn't have said it.

for you this is about convincing, maybe you're unsure of your path. for me it's making sure that people aren't misled by your opinion.. you claim it as fact, that was my point the whole time. if you were so confident in your path you wouldn't need to argue its validity and say it's the only path. we each have different paths, my friend. don't get so big headed so as to assume that yours is the only one for everyone. we are all different, that is why there are so many different yogas out there, besides tantric yoga. they all have the same goal.

and you are? le sigh. such arrogance. haven't you learned anything from Star Wars? fear is the path to the dark side. I sense much fear in you. scared you're on the wrong path are you? i can find you many 'enlightened' sources that say tantric sex is good stuff but isn't the only way, but you only got one source and a bunch of pictures for the 'one path' thing, buddy. this is going nowhere. we both obviously are not enlightened. this is merely an educational debate, and really you aren't doing that well in proving your position that sex is the only way. why keep arguing? this isn't about my path your path, this is you stating your path is the ONLY path. kinda like Jesus is the only way to heaven kinda thing. get my drift? it's annoying and ignorant.