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Amen. Besides, the world isn't supposed to end for another four years or so, remember? I'm just going to do whatever I can do for now and let the end come if it does. That's all anyone can do, really, except for maybe Max, who could just shift into Golden Dragon Body at the last second (no slam on Kunlun intended here, just joking around)

First, I'm not trying to insult or offend anybody, merely trying to put this in perspective. Just want to get that out of the way. That said, Scotty is entirely correct. WYG, what happened? For a while after your suspension or whatever it was you were asking questions with what seemed like the intent to learn, but now you've reverted back to your old sarcastic, negative ways. Have you even tried Kunlun yet? If not I don't see the reason for all this negativity. The way to solve all this constant bickering is SO SIMPLE, EVERYBODY: If you're intent on sticking with your system, then do so and leave Kunlun alone. If not, then try Kunlun and see if it works for you. If it doesn't work then good for you, you've just solved a dilemma and are now free to choose a path that does work. If Kunlun does work then good for you, you've just found your system. Seriously, what is the point of all this? Each person has to forge their own path, and if humanity would spend less time arguing and more time just walking down our roads, maybe the world would be a more peaceful place. One way to find out And just to clarify, I have recently realized that Kunlun does not work for me, and am now searching for a system that does. So I am not trying to promote Kunlun or convince people to try it, I'm just tired of the fighting.

Sorry Mantra, but I'm not following. If you're sitting in Indian style, how can you raise your heels enough to get any effect? Or is this only for after you can do it without paying as much attention to the posture?

Actually, I do remember something on the radio broadcast about there being up to 99 levels of perception associated with the wisdom eye. I dunno, I'll have to dig that broadcast up again and listen to it.

Hey, Max was talking really fast, but I think he was saying something to the effect of all the schools and lineages sharing similarities at their highest levels, Kunlun being an example of this. I dunno, that's just what it seemed like to me.

I am a major practitioner of many shaolin methods, including iron palm, in which you slap a bag filled with beans, gravel or steel shot and then massage with a liniment called dit da jow. I know that practices which conciously lead qi are not good to do with kunlun, but what about iron palm? As far as I know there isn't any qi leading involved, but the slapping does stimulate the meridians in the hand and affect qi level.

I listen to a lot of melodic death metal and thrash metal (I am NOT a satanist ) I like: Children of Bodom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgbeSpbL_10 Shade Empire Dimmu Borgir Deathchain

Hey Mantis, Just to be safe you might want to see a doctor or something.

I was just a few days away from creating a thread about the transmission. Coincidence I've been wondering for a while now if it is even possible to reach the highest levels, like Golden Dragon Body, without the transmission. I'm still a freshman in college and haven't established a solid career, and I'm not sure if I can get one going for a while even after I'm out of college, so I don't really have the cash to go to a seminar and get the transmission If I'm extremely lucky I'll make it to the NJ seminar, but it's not looking that way. Is it possible to reach a high level without it?

How does starting and stopping strain the kidneys?

If you really want to learn the microcosmic orbit, check out Yang Jwing Ming's Qigong Meditation: Small Circulation. I've compared and contrasted his methods with Chia's in the past, and I've found his description to be far more detailed and safe.

I'm experimenting with retention for Kunlun's 100 days, and I've gotten input from a few people. I've also looked at various threads. No matter what the source, I'm getting conflicting views and mixed messages. I'm fairly sure this has been discussed before, but I typed "retrograde ejaculation" into the search bar and found only a few topics, all of them mentioning what it is, but I'm still a little confused. Is it caused during ANY kind of non-ejaculatory orgasm (the alledgedly-safe PC squeeze comes to mind) or only the ones where you use manual locking techniques? Also, is the PC squeeze dangerous in any way aside from the retention dangers listed on Trunk's site?

Really? I read that the point of no return was the literal half-second right before ejaculation (I found that somewhere online, but now my computer's acting up more than usual and I can only get onto a few websites, TTB being one of them thankfully). That's when I stop and wait, and the feeling of orgasm just goes away on its own after a little while.

I'd do that if I didn't have a girlfriend But I'm trying a new method recommended to me by a couple people where I stop all stimulation at the point of no return and just let the energy subside. No assistance of any kind, just relax and wait. I haven't been able to find anything dangerous about that method so far, so I'm fairly sure it's nice and safe.

When you inhale, gently pull your abdomen in. When you exhale, relax and let it return to normal.

Procurator, Little1, Thank you so much for the warnings. I would have been furious with myself if I had caused any injury to myself by practicing unsafe methods, especially without having the basics down. I had done the PC squeeze a few times, and just from the sensations I began to think that maybe it wasn't very safe, especially since urinating began to burn at first after doing the PC squeeze. That's why I figured it was causing retrograde ejaculation. Thanks again.

Can you elaborate on that? WHY doesn't it work, if so many people use it for retention?

Before I started doing Kunlun I was a practitioner of most of Yang, Jwing-Ming's methods including embryonic breathing, microcosmic orbit, and various wai dan excersises (as well as Long Fist Kung Fu as taught by him). You might want to check out some of his books. He doesn't incorporate any sexual qigong, but you could probably just add some Mantak Chia stuff into the mix to make a complete system to your liking. Hope this helps

No, that isn't vibrating palm. That's just normal iron palm. Masters can easily project the energy through objects. That's how people can break the middle brick in a stack of three without leaving a scratch on the other two.

Alright, this is getting ridiculous. I just read through sixteen pages of "yes it is, no it isn't", and I think it would be beneficial if we all just kept our respective opinions to ourselves and not try to sway each other to one path or the other.

Believe it or not, I'm learning from YMAA books and videos. I would prefer a teacher, but I have no teachers anywhere near me, so I have to make due. Surprisingly, I'm learning pretty damn fast.

I do. Sleeping crane style.

I agree. Kunlun takes the sexual energy you've built up and uses it to strengthen the bliss energy. I haven't actually EXPERIENCED bliss energy yet, but I definitely feel a lack of sexual energy after practice.

I'm in

Max recommends training outdoors in a place of beauty. I have one such place in my backyard, underneath a huge holly tree. Its branches stretch out so far that it feels like you're in some miniature forest when you stand under it, and I get a LOT of great energy from practicing there. But it's getting colder. I usually practice Kunlun from 7:30 PM to 9:00 PM because that is supposedly the best time, but it is cold. Will the cold air affect my training negatively? And if so, is there better time period for practice that will be warmer?