Athanor

Nice. 1st of all, I don't believe in evil spirits. I don't believe that there is such thing as true evil. 2nd, this sounded like those biblical stories in which people were told not to go against the Church, but they did, and then they suffered because of it. This is only to avoid people to do something. 3rd, forgive me if I don't accept reality from a WRITER and his/her IMAGINED story. Although such stories may seem to be completely real sometimes, let's not forget that everyone can write down in a book whatever one wants without consequences. You are allowed to lie in your own book.

I thought high vibrational energy is more dense. You know, when frequency is higher, wavelength is shorter, and more waves appear within the same distance than in low frequency waves - i.e. it's a denser vibration. Oh well... maybe the esoteric approach to "dense" and "vibration" is different. I think manipulating qi is also happening on the quantum level, whether you use it for healing or not. If you use the energy which is the root of all energies (and qi probably is, if the old scripts are correct), then it is certainly operating on the quantum level. I thought the basic principles in Tao are jin, qi, and shen. I thought that the mind leads the qi and when the qi is focused then it gathers the essence and substance will be formed - thus physical change will occur. If it isn't so, then how does physical change occur through qi manipulation? And if it is so then why would there be a difference in moving something with qi, and healing someone with qi? I still don't understand this difference, although you seemingly explained it with some "low energy - high energy" stuff, but let's face it, those kind of things don't really say anything. You know, I find it really interesting how people deny the importance or even the value of such abilities like manipulating things with your qi. First of all, healing is manipulating, thus healing with qi is also manipulating matter with qi. If you accept this, then accept it fully. Second, what's your problem with playing? Look around in nature. All animals learn with playing, human children learn with playing. Playing was "invented" by nature so that young living creatures can prepare for the real life experiences. It's a valuable part of life. Yet, you behave as if it would be something degenerated which should be wiped out of the entire universe, from everyone's lives. Well, it's not something like this. On one hand, playing with qi helps you to develop a strong ability to manipulate it by your own will, regardless of the circumstances. It's like when you practice to meditate - the more you practice, the less distraction will actually bother you during it. On the other hand, when you know how to manipulate the vital energy, the root of your whole being and the universe, you definitely get something what is far beyond your own imagination. You will get an insight into things, how they work, why they work like that, what they do and how they do it. This is really an unnecessary knowledge if you're concerned about reaching enlightenment and you don't care about anything else in the whole world. But I think knowing such things is really fun. And it is indeed valuable. And I believe many people who consider this kind of endeavor a waste of time merely do that because they don't have the ability to do it, and they'd instantly change their minds if they'd figure out how to do it. Because everyone likes to play.

"some would work and others wouldn't". Haven't you ever been curious what makes the difference? For someone who studied science, you're not really a curious type... I didn't know that the energy I would use to spin the paper and the energy I would use to heal someone are not the same energy. Can you tell me about the differences? You know, on a fundamental level, one man can be cured with placebo and another can't. The question is: what makes the difference? It's most likely not the heat.

I don't waste my time on commenting you, you clearly don't belong here.

I couldn't make it spin. But all the ideas I could think of how to fake it, none of them did work. Neither blowing it, nor heat didn't make it spin the way it did on the tape. And I don't think that it's a very high quality (and expensive) 3d animation work... So I think it can be done - probably with qi energy.

First, since it's basically easy, maybe you should try whether your opinion matches reality or not. I mean if it's really heat then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to make the experiment and spin the paper. However, when I tried it, I heated up my hands so hard that it was a really burning feeling, yet, it didn't move the paper a single bit. Not to mention that the metallic thing probably weights more, thus it's even harder to spin it. But still you might want to check whether it's heat or not. You might want to burn a candle beside the paper thing just to see how it spins... It won't. But - as I told you above - this was a predictable result. Once again: I'm not wasting energy on toys, I'm trying to learn something.

And I suggest you not to claim something "fundamentally flawed and laughable" without a proof. "My theory" is otherwise called physics. If you tend to know why I'm wrong, which I doubt, then tell me, otherwise, if all you can say is that I'm wrong, which I'm not, rather keep your thoughts for your drinking pals. I'd like to know how this works because it's simple, and it might just be simple enough to serve as a tool for learning to guide qi. Although healing is a much more appropriate application of the ability to guide qi, it's also much harder to learn to guide qi and see its results during healing sessions. By the way, armchair is 1 word. I did my research.

Heat means particle kinetics. The higher heat something has, the faster its particles are moving. This means that radiating heat is actually a bunch of air particles which get a kick from the hand's speedy particles and so they start to move faster. But they move faster in every direction, on both sides of the paper. So the paper effectively gets the same force from left and right, ergo it must not spin at all. Anyway, heatwave can only affect things if they have a big enough surface with which the speedy particles collide, and this can't be told about the metallic circle.

That wasn't qi energy either. Heat from the hands can't make the paper spin around because it would most likely simply lift the whole thing; just as electricity can't spin it either because it has no such effect on paper. The only logical solution is qi energy, and since it can be lead by the mind, the question is HOW TO DO IT.

It is the same experiment. However, I never saw it with aluminum, just with normal paper and that spinning device. Yet, normal paper also rotates on the videos. I don't think that qi is transmitted with electrons. Electrons transmit the type of energy which is called electricity, and there are plenty of other types of energy (heat, nuclear, etc.) which are not transmitted via electrons. Thus, if qi is some sort of fundamental energy, it is surely not transmitted with electrons, so metallic things are not necessary to experience rotation. However, your own expectation that it won't work with normal paper because it stops electrons might be a reason why you experienced failure when you tried it with normal paper...

What do you mean by clarity?

I don't think it's fake but if anyone can prove that it is, then that's a valuable info too I'd like you to try it, and everyone else too, and tell me how it went, especially if you could do it.

It is very disturbing that (I think) I understand the concept of it but I still can't apply it, and I don't know why. Do you think taiji and such practices would lead to the application? Or it's also just a possibility and maybe they won't... Thank you for your answers.

I believe that the countries which take karma seriously don't have problems because of their belief in karma, much more because of their belief in life itself. You see, Buddhism and religions with enlightenment concept, do not serve civilization. These are the religions of the beggars. If you strive for enlightenment, then your life cannot serve civilization, technological development, modern health care or food logistics. On the most socialized level, it can only serve you and your neighbors. Although the Dalai Lama is also frequently talking about helping each others, we may not forget that religions live from the work of mundane people. People donate to churches and they can only donate because they made some work and they got some money for it. While monks do mandalas from sand and when they're finished after a long time, they simply sweep it away to illustrate transitoriness. Great. If you look at the whole teaching of Buddha and the conditions of enlightenment, you'll find that if you take them seriously, you will need to rely on others' help in the matter of food, shelter, and such. I am sure that many western people have this perception about far-east religions.

I'm terribly sorry but I don't understand your answer. I don't know what you mean by "open door". And I don't understand another thing. If qi is lead into his head, then when someone breaks a brick then does he lead qi into the brick? I thought he leads it into his hand to protect it, to make it harder and be able to express a greater force. Let's try another thing if you still have your patience and please tell me how to do it. I already tried it but I can't do it purposely, but I know that it can be done without fake tricks. I'd really like to understand what kind of awareness and intention I would need to make my qi spin the paper. This would give a general insight into the whole system of qi-behavior.

No, it's not the same. When your mind dwells in the present, it is still filled with the present. When such mind guides your actions, your actions are filled with the present. When you achieve wu wei, your mind is empty and your actions are driven by emptiness.

Although this might be true, this practice unfortunately doesn't involve the character-builder side and other mental effects of a physical training.

Let's say my intention is to hit the victim on his head. Where will my intention lead the qi? Into my arm? Into my fist? Into his head? Thanks for your patience, by the way, I appreciate it

So you say that my mind leads my qi if I intent to do that, but without intention qi doesn't follow my awareness? I don't think that intention can be totally separated from observation. Even when you're merely observing and you don't intent to do anything specific, you still intent to observe that specific thing. However, intention might be the real key indeed... Can you tell me how to intent to move qi? I mean what kind of mental image or whatever should be played in my mind to make qi behave in a certain way? In other words, what to do to guide qi? "Intend it" is a bit inadequate to me.

No. If he's sick because of his karma then you won't get sick because of healing. However, if one's sick because of one's karma then you might not be able to heal that person - this depends on whether the karma which caused the sickness is depleted or not. Btw, not all illness is caused by a person's karma. If you help someone then the good karma goes to you and not to the other person. He will be helped by you because his karma makes this possible. If you do something to attain good karmic results then you won't really reach your goal. Bad or even undue intent indeed affects the fruits of your deed on a karmic level. The highest result comes from a completely altruistic intent which is to help every being simply to give them something. This is driven by compassion. Compassionate behavior is the best way to deplete your own karma. But if you do good to others for the sake of depleting your karma then it's not that compassionate anymore. So the best is if you don't think about your own karma, just do good things

First of all, I recommend you to stop watching the news and reading the papers if you don't need to do it for your job (like you're a journalist or something). If you are a journalist or something then maybe you should consider changing occupation together with your lifestyle... One thing that keeps you thinking the same routine all the time is when you surround yourself with things and people who are telling you the same things all the time. You might need to do some unfavorable changes, like avoid seeing some people who talk about negative stuff with you. I was this kind of a person: I always complained about everything and I always expressed my dissatisfaction and my problems. I had conversations inside my head in which I was imaginably arguing with people. I did arguing in the real life too, of course, this was the source of all the inner arguments. Then I realized that the same thing happens in my head and in my life. I stopped visiting people who I was arguing with and I avoided unfavorable tv spots like news full of violence, and political spots full of hatred and such things. I don't need these in my life. I don't do as if these things wouldn't exist, I know they exist, I just decided not to care about them. I don't listen to anyone who tries to complain to me. And you know what? My mind is already more peaceful and I have much more mental capacity to think about developing myself and my life. Of course meditation and the like also help, but I think the most fundamental thing in this case is the environment. Change that. Create an environment in which there are only (or mostly) those kind of things and relations which you would like to have both in your life and inside your head. This might seem a little shallow, thinking that a bigger bookshelf, other drinking pals and other tv programs would solve your problem. But think about this. Your life became messy because your thoughts are messy and vice versa. Even if your mind is disciplined, if you move into a messy area and you don't make order, you'll need more and more energy to keep your mind disciplined. And if you move into an ordered environment then your mind will naturally become more balanced. You manage both and one reflects the other.

OK, here I need some help. I didn't know that you could actually decide about this. What makes the difference between the mind that is leading qi and the mind that is not leading qi? What do you do different in one case and in the other to accomplish different result in relation with qi?

Qi follows awareness. Thus you affect whatever you observe, even if you suspend your referencing process. Don't go as far as the Moon, just look at your own life. You give your energy to the things you are aware of, the things you observe - and thus you affect them. You can't avoid this because it's the nature of qi.

Well, without over-complicating it: what is the proper relation between sexuality and spirituality? One type uses sex as a guideline on the spiritual path (like tantra), while another avoids sexuality for good (like most religions). Average people take a bit of both, they deal with some spirituality and have some sex. But this isn't good enough. I'm thinking about the ultimate potential. What is the best for us in an ultimate way? Not averagely - ultimately. Buddhism says that avoiding sexual intercourse is good because we need to get rid of attachments, and sexuality is an attachment. Taoism says that avoiding ejaculation is healthy because so we spare our sexual energy and that energy is used in our spiritual development. Then again, think about this: If taoism is something what everyone should do because it's the ultimate truth, and we should avoid ejaculation, or sex for that matter, then if everyone would become a taoist, humanity would extinct in a century. No children would ever be born. The thing is that this whole enlightenment stuff, and that everyone should become enlightened and we should help each other (all sentient beings) to reach enlightenment, and by knowing that animals can reincarnate (or reborn or whatever) in human form, so the thing is that it is only possible if sex is a part of the life of the taoist. Or the Buddhist, or everyone. Because we must ensure that there will be a next generation. I hope this makes sense. I want to know how to determine whether something is a healthy sexual desire, or an unhealthy craving for the sake of bodily satisfaction. At first it might seem easy to distinguish, but it's really not. I mean it's not like appetite and hunger: you can determine whether you're really hungry, or you just have appetite for some food. In sex it's different. You can't separate your mind from the body in this case, because the sexual need is always triggered by the mind which receives some sort of sexual impression. When you see a beautiful person then you think of sex and you get excited - there you have the desire. But, in a spiritual sense, is it a desire or a craving? A spontaneous happening that can be examined and lived to the fullest, or a mental trick, an egoist struggle to get satisfaction for the mere sake of the ego? PLEASE! I already know many opinions of laymen. I'd like to know the thoughts of someone who has WISDOM about this. You can share your opinion, of course, but please make it clear whether you're sharing an opinion, your personal experience, some teaching what a master told you once, or your true, intimate and deeply lived wisdom. Thank you.

I don't know what ze, zir, and hir means. In my language we don't distinguish male and female gender when we talk about someone, but it's hard to avoid it in English. You know, I really think that there are much bigger problems in life than this...