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Hi Cheya: I am not practicing TCR so I can't really recommend a version more than another. GM S.K.Lew's version and GM Feng Zhiqiang's version are two I am aware of (except the one you are currently practicing which origin is not clear to you, right?). I also know that M. Rinaldini (My link) teaches some TCR exercices in his curriculum but I don't know who passed them down to him (may be K.Cohen?). Sorry, I can't be of any help here If the version you are practicing feels good then it's the real deal, right?! neiye edit for spelling

Hi Cheya I am not Baguakid, but he may refer to Carl Totton: My link He sells a DVD on a tai chi ruler version Master S.K.Lew taught (the same GM that taught the system to Terry Dunn). Be well, neiye

Thanks ralis

Hi, I don't see any reason why M.Chia's teachings about healing sounds could be a fraud. You can find the same sounds taught in other systems; only the movements associated may vary. If you already have M.Chia's book then go for it. If not the one I recommended, is quite simple, easy to work with and is a legit teaching. neiye

Hi, You could get this book: My link it presents healing sounds and gentle movements. As far as my experience goes, it works; be sure to do them daily. Take care neiye

Yes!! Marblehead + cat = 100% practical/0%MetaphysicalBS You may also see if this resonates with you:My link if yes, I think you can receive help here free of charge:My link Take care edited for spelling

I completely second that

Hi effilang, Thanks for starting this thread telling about your experience. Where did you learn YJJ? How did it came to you to use YJJ for ejaculation control? neiye

Hi My screen name comes form Nei-yeh (Inward training). But since I am still not really good at it, I removed the "h" so that I remember there is still more to do: cultivation has no end. neiye

Hi Twinner, I would be happy to avoid metaphysical BS. But your situation has its own peculiarity and I (we) need to look into it accordingly. A lot of people are on the verge of being homeless now but your situation is not the same as another. If a meaning can be found in it, it won't be valid for someone else in a similar situation. To be of any help, one has to know much more about the details of your life and situation; otherwise, it will end in generalizations and metaphysical BS. Take care, neiye

My question is : why God is so interested in seeing Oprah's show that he postponed the rapture?? Besides, Mr Camping says that Oprah will not be part of the fiesta... That's really puzzling. God's ways are really inscrutable for wackos like me. Hopefully, Mr Camping takes care of me. I am waiting for your next post ralis on May 26 giving us the link to the next Camping's youtube message. Thanks a lot

Hi unmike, You can read chap 6 of the Huainan zi (a translation has been published recently in english (http://www.amazon.com/Huainanzi-Practice-Government-Translations-Classics/dp/0231142048/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1306048697&sr=1-1) You can also have a look and read about the confucean thinker Dong Zhongshu (195 BCE-115 BCE)in the Fung, Yu-lan A History of Chinese Philosophy Princeton University Press (chap II Tung Chung-shu)(http://www.amazon.com/History-Chinese-Philosophy-Vol-D/dp/0691020221/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1306049066&sr=1-2-fkmr0) Dong Zhongshu has elaborated a lot about Yuanqi (Primordial Breath)has a manifestation of Gan-ying. Yuanqi has an harmonious and consonant nature (heshun), it is considered by Dong Zhongshu has a manifestation, embodiement of Heaven's will and a median/medium of Gan-Ying between Heaven and Man. Hope some more knowledgeable bums will chime in, neiye

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Sloppy Zhang, Your patience, compassion, good will to help is admirable. I sincerely hope you will succeed with Non. As far as it has some sense and value, he may at least add you in his Tao Bums friends. Be well

Gan-Ying is Tian ren Gan-ying which the resonance between Heaven and Man ( in the model of a stimulus-response). This concept has been first elaborated from Yijing to describe how Qi has evolved into two qi, yin and yang, interacting (gan ying) with each other and giving birth to the ten thousand beings (Xian, Tuanzhuan, commentary of the 31th hexagram). In my understanding gan-ying describe the universal connection between things, beings and human beings. Taomeow will do best than me to explain it. Edit: too late, she has already answered

I second this. Any suggestion that invites this guy "Non" to act in a constructive way (no suicide, nor anything of this taste)and get out of his mind is really good. But some people here just go on answering in a mental level and give gentle stroke to his never-ending self dialog. No one can do anything to help when people are not ready and eager to change anyway, but all the more when it is some web based kind of counselling. It reminds me a time where I was kind of depressed.I was 15 years younger and my 10 years relationship had just ended: she left me for another man. I thought that I could not go through it. I thought my life was destroyed and that I could not do anything good anyway. I felt I was a failure. Someone told me that at least he could see that I was able to lace up my shoes, go to the groceries, call my mum to ask about how she was etc..and that wasn't consistent with being a complete failure. I suddenly realized the difference between thinking our life and actually living. It took me two more months to get completely out of the depression, but I clearly did thanks to this reminder.Thoughts are just thoughts, living is acting. Just my two pennies.

Do you mean that these demons are some kind of hungry ghosts from the collective psyche energetically distributed in different elemental levels?

Hi Little1, I am not sure what you are referring with this "flyers" term. But what you wrote above is for me a quite good and simple definition of spiritual work. So of course in this perspective, I can say I meet flyers every time (quite often) I let my attention fade and my openness to non expected events/facts dull. I can feel a kind of internal collapse which may correspond to the exact moment when "flyers" hijack my brain. As a side note,it reminds me that years ago I used to practice dowsing. I stopped because I had some strange feelings as if sometimes, "something" was entering in my body. Each time I was having some sudden loss of energy, and had the feeling my concentration was reduced. In those cases, the answers I got from the pendulum had no consistency whatsoever. It may be quite far from what you are talking about; it just popped up in my mind. neiye

Hi jago25_98 It has been quite a lot time that you started this thread and exposed your problems. I did not go again through the entire thread but it seems that nothing has changed. The picture will not radically change if no one changes. You don't want to loose your energy by releasing your semen, she wants you to give her your semen/energy. You can both stick to these views until one dies, nothing will change between you. If you really love each other, there should be listening, mutual understanding, compassion between you both. It is up to you both to ask you, and ponder, individually and through dialog what your relationship is about. If there is love, there is understanding, so there is a way for you both to find an agreement about your sexual life and find harmony. If it is just about sex and self-reassurance, then you know,when it comes to you, what is the price you have to pay: loosing your semen regularly and heart-closing/closed relationships. But at some point, going on discussing this endlessly is just mind game and mind self pleasuring. It leads nowhere I would like to be (if it were me) As for the strict energetic side of your question, a lot of people here can help or direct you to some tips. Last part added in last edit In my experience, heart centered relationships don't lead that much to energetic depletion: you can feel very energized after sex even when you release semen. Good luck. Neiye

Thank you for your detailed answer, lifeforce Best, neiye

Hi lifeforce, Can you tell me/us more about the benefits you gained from this exercises? Thanks, neiye

Hi Little1, Thanks a lot for this video. I found this man very moving, I felt touched almost to tears (on a side note, I am a man and I don't like soap operas ) : peace, gentleness, integrity are leaking out from his presence. If UT practices help to be like him, they are the real deal. Be well, neiye

Hi Little1, I thought you would not mind if I post something related to M.Chia practices here since the discussion board is not always a safe place You may be aware of this little article about sexual pratices but people who visit your contributed articles space may benefit from it so... It explains quite clearly the requisits for such practices and emphasizes the importance of feeling- which is so true! This article comes from Renu and Juan LI (longtime practionners of Healing Tao system) website: www.tao-yoga.com Best, neiye ************************************************* TAOIST SEXUAL PRACTICES OVERVIEW OF TAOIST SEXUAL PRACTICES In the Taoist tree of practices with branches such as acupuncture, herbology, massage, five element nutrition, qigong, taichi, feng shui, I Ching and meditation, the practices dealing with the sexual energy occupy a prominent place. In ancient China Taoist masters were well known for their specialized knowledge on sexual matters. Emperors and Empresses would consult in secret Taoist masters for learning the essentials of sexual practice. This would be done not only for enhancing sexual pleasure with the numerous concubines that filled the court, but more specifically for attaining the Chinese ideal of having a long and healthy life. From very early times sexual energy management has been associated in China with high vitality, strong senses, sharp mind, vibrant health, personal magnetism, psychic powers and the ability to prolong life beyond its ordinary limits. Contrary to popular belief Taoist sexual practices are not an independent discipline existing all by itself. On the contrary, sexual practices are considered a branch of the Taoist tree of disciplines having as central trunk the meditations for calming the mind and opening the infinite potential of the human spirit. THE 5 ESSENTIALS OF TAOIST SEXUAL PRACTICE The Two Fundamentals The recycling of sexual energy requires first of all that the practitioner has developed an ability to feel every part of the body and specifically the movement of the Qi or life force through the meridian system. Without the ability to feel the Qi there is no Taoist practice. The ability to feel every part of the body is the opening of communication between the mind and physical body. To attempt any energy practice without the fundamentals of feeling the body and identifying the movement of Qi the practitioner is energetically blind and unable to know determine when practice should stop or how intensely a technique should be done. The risk of practicing without the two fundamentals is energy becoming stuck in the upper part of the body and causing a host of undesirable side effects such as headaches, insomnia, irregular heartbeat, high blood pressure, ringing in the ears and so on. The list becomes quite long. Knowing How to Circulate Consciously the Qi through the Meridian System -Any energy practice has the potential to increase the energy flow through the meridian system. Increased flow is akin to having more traffic through the avenues of a great city. As we all know if everyone is heading out of town on the holidays the traffic is going to be heavy and slow everywhere. Bottlenecks raise tempers and overheat engines, besides the increase in the personal quotient of impatience and frustration. -Recycling sexual energy is as simple as moving the accumulated Qi in the genital area and moving it through the nervous system and the vital organs. However to do this the practitioner should be very acquainted with the best meridians for driving safely from one place to another. The energy superhighway in the human energy system is the combination of meridians ascending up the spine from the perineum and descending down the front of the chest to the perineum. This circular path goes by a variety of traditional names and is better known in the Occident as the Microcosmic Orbit. In the same way that the traffic in a superhighway can move smoothly, slow or be totally blocked, the Microcosmic Orbit can be partially blocked and distributing Qi flow inefficiently. So one of the most important priorities in energy work is keeping the Orbit flowing as efficiently as possible. Many are the sexual practice aspirants who proceed to recycle the sexual energy without knowing anything about the qi flow in the Orbit and end up with the sexual energy stopping either at the head or the heart. Harmonizing the Emotions Taoist energy work is known to increase energy flow and promote vitality. However the Taoists are not just concerned with increasing Qi flow, most important is the quality of the Qi. One of the factors which most readily affect the quality of personal Qi is the emotions that are being produced in our organs. The ancient Taoists discovered in the course of their meditations that our emotions, both positive and negative take their point of departure in the condition of the vital organs. If for example, the liver is circulating the Qi very smoothly then that ease of movement is experienced as a positive mental state which expresses itself as kindness, generosity and a state of personal ease. On the contrary if the flow is hindered by excessive tension and heat in the liver then the experience of such a difficult flow manifests as anger, aggression and a general state of dissatisfaction. The Taoists also discovered that the sexual energy that expresses itself through the sperm in men and the ovum in women is a composite of the essences from each of the vital organs, the nervous system, the glands, brain and bones. In other words, sexual energy is a team effort where every part of the body contributes its finest. If our organs at the moment of contributing their share for empowering the sperm and the ovum are congested with negative emotions and tensions, then the sexual energy is going to carry such qualities as part of its overall make up. So it is essential that the practitioner of sexual recycling pays a great deal of attention to the emotional quality that flow from the vital organs. The Taoists developed numerous practices for transforming the energy flow in the organs and thus affecting the emotional quality. The first method is that of Six Healing Sounds utilizing simple movements and the sounds that harmonize each the vital organs. A deeper method is that of harmonizing the element in each of the organs while at the same time resolving unfinished situations which are still emotionally charged. It can be said that any physical exercise which changes the rate of respiration and accelerates blood and energy flow will have a positive effect on the emotions and the organs. Knowing How to Align the Physical Structure Although it may seem remotely connected to sexual practice, the ability to align the physical body properly is fundamental in all energy work not just sexual recycling. The alignment of the structure is learned in order to facilitate the circulation of Qi through the meridian system while at the same time opening the flow from the energies of the universe. Without a correct structure the Qi has to fight its way to circulate through every part of the organism. It is as if our superhighway out of town is covered with roadblocks and detours every few miles. Right structure is essential in sexual practice because of the nature of sexual energy itself. Sexual energy has been called `the water of life' in many ancient cultures because it was observed that when non-aroused sexual energy is tranquil and behaves like water at room temperature. However during stimulation sexual energy becomes like water which is heating up and heading towards boiling. As we known, water at room temperature is easy to handle, but boiling water is another matter altogether, it has to be handled with lots of care and we have to be very careful where we pour it. The recycling of aroused sexual energy requires the most direct and easy line of flow to reach the vital organs and the nervous system. In addition to having the Microcosmic Orbit flowing properly, the physical structure should be lending support to the meridian flow by providing the optimum facility of movement. The alignment of the structure begins with something as simple as feeling an invisible cord lifting the crown and the sacrum at the bottom of the spine being pulled downward. Many specialized postures were developed by the Taoists and now form part of the basic structure of Qi Gong exercises. The Right Nutrition Many of the men practitioners of Taoist sexual energy recycling are unaware that the goal of learning to control the ejaculation and prolonging sexual play is related to what they had for dinner last night and what type of food predominates their diet. The food we eat is one of the four sources of energy we have along with the air we breathe, the energy we receive from heaven and earth and the inherited ancestral energy our parents have passed to us. Each of the four sources of energy is akin to the legs of a table-if anyone is short or weak, it unbalances the table along with everything we placed on it. A diet which is excessive in concentrated foods such as animal proteins will render more difficult the goal of sexual energy recycling because sensitivity is reduced, as well as blood circulation. Animal foods in excess also render more difficult the task of raising the energy through the back of the Microcosmic Orbit because such foods in general are strongly descending which is the opposite of what is searched in sexual recycling. INCORPORATING THE FIVE BASIC STEPS OF TAOIST SEXUAL PRACTICE: Many publications have appeared in recent times promoting different methods for sexual energy recycling. The impression is created that it is absolutely safe to concentrate on a few breathing exercises along with some muscle contractions and all will be well. Experience has taught that is not the case. The best evidence is the countless number of people who search out Taoist teachers to help them resolve energy problems in their sexual practice learned from books. Often there is absolutely nothing faulty with the methods in the books, simply that the practices lack the context of the five essentials outlined before. It is important that anyone interested in learning the Taoist sexual practices places them in the context of a complete system, rather than as an isolated exercise. This is the simplest way of honoring the tremendous power inherent in the creative energy of the universe concentrated in the reproductive cycle. Renu and Juan LI ************************************************************

Hi Badogue, Besides seeking advice from a professional, you said earlier that you had contact with a Buddhist monk. Has he advised you to meditate? Perhaps you should see him again and ask for guidelines for meditation. If you don't have opportunity to see him again soon you can follow these links and practice every day: 1. The man leading the meditation has a buddhist background, the video is interesting because of the little introduction before the meditation. 2.http://marc.ucla.edu/body.cfm?id=22 These are also very useful, you can download them. Please if you use theses meditations, don't neglect the loving kindness meditation, it can really helps relieving some sexual symptoms (wet dreams for eg) It seems to me that some yin practices (like those above) should really help you. Building yin qi is really important for balancing the whole sexual, emotional system The liver meridian go through the genital area and is often involved in prostatitis and stagnation symptoms on this aera (heat-dampness). Clearing up the aera by acupuncture and massaging may help if you still have some pain. Stop completely coffee, alcohol or any exciting beverage if you drink them. Standing meditation ( not Chia's iron shirt) helped me tremendously to balance my system: There are 10 lessons by Lam kam Chuen, friendly, simple and powerful. You may only do the first standing position with arms relaxed along the body and really dig this one with intense relaxation. and the book version: http://www.amazon.com/Way-Energy-Mastering-Internal-Strength/dp/0671736450 Finally, you may have a gentle physical activity that involve the legs and the waist. Some yoga mouvements for example. I wish you a speed recovery. Don't be discouraged. neiye

Hi FD, Your link to Trunk's site is a very good idea, it clears up a lot of things. Everyone interested in Chia's methods should dig this site. Thanks neiye