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The Bagua branch I practiced before doing the Dragongate Sanctuary material had Zhang Zhaodong's Hebei Xingyiquan as a foundation. My sifu's approach was to take individual postures from the Jiang Rong Qiao Old 8 Palms form and have us circle walk with it. Once we had more advanced Xingyi knowledge he encouraged us to start experimenting with using the Hebei Xingyiquan postures in circle walking and explore the transitions through space to see how the two arts were combined by our sigong. Here is a video of my sigong doing basically that. There isn't more public video of him because his daughter requested the gong fu family not post it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yoZMD7lmTA

Nathan is one of Nelson's students and is helping him with the Thinkific course. He is present in the student community as well on Liuhebafa Online. The martial art is deeply influenced by Northern Shaolin and this Luohan Gong aspect is more Buddhist as the Yi Jin Jing work is an important prerequisite to doing Northern Chinese internal arts. Liuhebafa has very Daoist theory and its Animal imagery is more akin to Assyrian mythological creatures than common animals like Xingyiquan.

Greetings Dao Bums! I have been working on esoteric Buddhism primarily the past few years. That said, I keep up with my Daoist gong fu training. Nelson Ma is offering a Northern Praying Mantis Luohan Gong as a foundation. It is a direct neigong for releasing the spine and unifying the body. Nelson has much to offer and is filming the main 66 form of the style - currently the first quarter is available for purchase. My own training is peripherally related to this art and I've started on the Luohan Gong myself. So far the material is very clearly demonstrated and you can test the body method for the stretch locations as he teaches. I hope to see you guys in the discussion board of the training site. https://liuhebafa.thinkific.com/collections

Please understand, Damo's model is for Damo's teachings and you would be doing yourself a disservice to universalize it. As far as the list goes I can confidently say it does 1, 4, 5, and 7. If you would like to learn more, please feel free to read what Nelson has written about the course and reach out to him. I'm just a beginner student and can't intelligently discuss this material other than to say I started and I have done similar work in other styles that are descendant from people that trained in the style. Liuhebafa is the pinnacle of Chinese gong fu in my opinion and Nelson's instruction is very plain and clearly demonstrated. The good stuff is simple in words but difficult in the body. https://liuhebafa.thinkific.com/courses/luohangong

Hello Dao Bums, I got a chance to sit down with Harry Minogue this last Saturday and chat about Baguazhang. I hope you enjoy. https://youtu.be/0hvCighYqyM

https://youtu.be/tV3Ds1FpUp8 In this video Michael Goddard and myself discuss intuition and how to develop it. We discuss techniques from Reiki, foundations for integrating intuition into your daily life, as well as how intuition has literally saved my life. I hope you enjoy this discussion and we plan to continue these. Thank you, Matt Parsons

Greetings Dao Bums! I am still grateful for the chance to interview Michael Goddard. He is my lineage senior in the Dragongate Sanctuary lineage of Baguazhang and Reiki. We discuss topics from Baguazhang to Reiki and a lot in-between. Michael offers a free Udemy course to those first 5 people who e-mail him with the name of his Cranio-Sacral Therapy teacher. I provide links to Michael's video and contact info in the YouTube video description. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxa91l6rZTE

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You're gravely mistaken about the origins. Usui Mikao was not Christian - that was marketing created by his grand student Takata Hawayo so American students wouldn't feel intimidated by foreign culture. It is linked to Chinese Maoshan Thunder Magic through Onmyodo as well as Golden Light practices descendant from Joh-Rei that are also present in things like Zhengyi Daoism.

I'm certified in this system - it definitely works. https://www.academyofloveandlight.us/collections

As a Reiki Master Instructor - my opinion is that Reiki is very beneficial so long as the person does the foundation work. It is very possible to complete a weekend class and receive a certificate saying one is a Reiki Master. Personally, I wasn't taught any qi emission therapies until I had ~9 years of cultivation practice and I received a separate Vajra transmission with its own qi emission therapy prior. Reiki translates from Ling Qi in Chinese - it's literally one of the most refined energies one can access. So long as the person doing your healing is out of the way it will be without pathogenic qi. That assumes the person even knows how to get out of the way. I'm teaching a Level 1 class at this very moment and chose to teach it over the course of a month so people would have a good way to integrate the energy and take a practice home.

I've found a lot of value in Damo's Comprehensive Guide to Neigong. I'm still trying to wrap my head around White Moon on Mountain Peak but I'm hoping this Martial Man course will help me decipher it a bit better.

i've only studied a little of this system and don't consider myself a teacher by any means. That said it's a daunting task to even just watch the videos considering how much time is required. Here is a Yin style beginner's guide and the guide author's new blog. http://becomingthelion.blogspot.com/2011/01/yin-style-baguazhang-beginners-guide-to.html https://sixstepcircle.wordpress.com/ Also a list of local practice groups - be sure to e-mail the contact, not all groups are "alive" and practicing. http://yinstylebaguazhang.com/local_groups.html To start it's a good idea to know what Daoyin is and how to think about this art. Andrew Nugent-Head provided videos for a Daoyin seminar here. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ6Ih12FYfxg0YVJ9lttoAF0T9-EU0nf_ Andrew Nugent-Head has also made almost the whole martial syllabus available for free. For beginners check the Penetrating Palms with Liu Shichang. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHln6ZUknDQAV9nGuhzGDVleNQqVhzv12 Beginners should also look into the Lion system to start. This one is based off of using a large double ended spear. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ6Ih12FYfxiIXttxyqjyEek9hCXT5NuA If you would like an article about strengthening postures this one is good. http://www.yinstylebaguazhang.com/article_strength_postures.html After putting some time into the Lion system then the Bear is next. The Bear system will allow one to develop short power similar to Chen taiji. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ6Ih12FYfxhhIY1lt_t2QqH6ec4BKNj6 Once one has put in a good amount of time (probably about two years' worth of work) in Lion, Bear, and Penetrating Palms then the Dragon (what Cheng baguazhang is based on) is the next step. Dragon was formulated around a broadsword and is supposed to be continuous in its power. It also contains a number of strikes used to setup throws ala shuai jiao. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ6Ih12FYfxjj0Iwjj1ESeubjVKrvDlq5 I have no idea how long one should put into Dragon as I only got to the Bear part of the syllabus but after the Dragon then the Phoenix is the next step and arguably one of the most difficult. Apparently this one is "removing" and is also a whipping type power. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ6Ih12FYfxiEu8d5TrJhh-rS_smrnbV5

All esotericism descends from shamanism. Esoteric methods are just a preservation of tribal knowledge within a civilization. Have you trained from this school in person? My teacher learned from Chris and Max prior to the formulation of the Kunlun system. What I learned was closer to the practices outlined in the old red book Max published with Chris Tittle. We mainly did Tibetan Vajrayana seated meditations and Bagua Neigong but we also did some Tibetan yoga. Bon was only ever mentioned in passing and its influence on the Vajrasattva heruka we were doing at the end. Much of what we did was straight out of Tibetan Nyingma and has given me the ability to exchange transmissions with monks. After completing my studies a signed copy of Max's purple book literally jumped off the shelf at my girlfriend at the time. When I made achievement after integrating the 5 Elements I was told I turned on the Lingbao side from a past life. Lingbao was already a syncretic sect that was known for integrating Buddhist cosmology and methods into their brand Daoism and had great influence on the wider Chinese Daoist culture. The 5 Elements are necessary to perform something like Vajradhatu practice. The mandalas are more than art and are meant to be engaged with in a multi-modal manner. All of the Dragongate Sanctuary practices come from somewhere - much of it is Tibetan but have a lot of influence from China and Japan. Many of the teachings they received from China and Japan may have roots in Tibet but they develop their own flavor in the new country. You can sit down to a Japanese or Tibetan fire ritual and the only difference will be the language but that doesn't mean the surrounding locale, culture, and people it contains are the same. The Shingon school that the Kuji Kiri descends from preserves aspects that have since passed from popularity in more mainstream Buddhist sects. The Kuji Kiri practice itself descends from a Daoist Liu Ding Liu Jia practices for protection whilst traveling through forests and mountains. While some ninja schools have preserved the martial guardian aspects of this - many only use it to ask for the Six Paramitas. Back to the topic at hand - Jason Read talks about the Buddhist influence on his Mao Shan line openly. There is a quick thunder palm strike method he described that would basically require one to have some cultivation of the 3 Vajras to use. Also he shows Daoist methods and talismans that are incredibly familiar to any Reiki Master worth their salt.

We obviously don't have the same practices. I can make someone fly with a simple Wood fist. Single Palm Change typically has a number of supplemental exercises I learned before getting it sure. 3-5 years is excessive - I feel one needs 1-3 years with a good teacher. I feel the Wuxing and Single Palm Change takes about that long and how we teach it, including the Neigong - one should be able to fajin at will using all 5 Elements on the circle and then the 8 Mother Palms.

Yup - me too just a different branch. Did you guys start Bagua? I have a number of transmissions for it now. Last I saw the David Chan guys did Yiquan, Liuhebafa, and some Yang Taiji Sword. I feel like Baguazhang is basically mobile Yiquan as taught by our Jiang Rong Qiao. Really takes the 12 Animals of Xingyiquan and moves it through different angles. Granted, I have a slightly different lineage so we do things a bit differently. Fajin whilst walking - super basic work for a Bagua person - you should be able to do this when you have a good grasp of Single Palm Change.

Everest and K2 are both in the Himalayas - one is still taller than the other. What I do is heavily influenced by Liuhebafa but does not pretend to equality even if we can see from our peak to theirs. Jiang Rong Qiao thought for a very long time it was the same as Taiji until the latter part of his life. Prior to that he had helped develop Taiji Duan and Chang Quan sets with his martial brother Yao Fuchun. It's said that his Baguazhang may originally have been developed for a Xingyi man to transition into Taijiquan. Later, he changed it to include content from Liuhebafa. My Yiquan lineage is also influenced by Liuhebafa and I can see the crossovers between the Zhan Zhuang of Xingyiquan and the influence from Liuhebafa's Weituo Gong in the Han Xing Qiao Yiquan I practice. There is good reason so many people sought out Wu Yihui and so many of Wang Xiangzhai's students cross trained. I don't pretend to know it yet but can tell there is something there I do not yet have from training Taijiquan, Hebei Xingyiquan, or the Jiang Baguazhang I have practiced.

Baguazhang is very interesting. It really takes this liminal space between ritual, meditation, and martial arts and expands it. I feel it's probably the second highest peak of the Chinese internal martial arts after Liuhebafa. I'm a Jiang Rong Qiao line practitioner and I've received a few transmissions now largely from Jiang and other Cheng related branches but I'm told some of our neigong comes from Fu Zhensong as well. Every group seems to have a slightly different focus. The more fighty focused guys usually had a focus on natural heel to toe stepping. The more energetic focused cultivation guys loved long low mud wading steps with very exacting requirements for not peeling the foot. The more body structure oriented steppers seemed to want to "check" every part of the step as you go. Anyway, get an in-person instructor with good achievement - it helps to be in someone's field to get these things right.

This is the author's blog. I did the spiritual heat talisman - kinda like a Daoist take on Weituo Pusa. https://maoshanofmagick.blogspot.com/

This is Jason's publisher. https://mandrake.uk.net/category/taoism-2/

No, it's just what I practice from the journal. There are at least 3 extant major branches of Mao Shan. I'm told the line we do descends from the Lingbao. I don't have the same lineage as Jason - just read his books and incorporate some of his practices. After receiving so many transmissions now - these things just work.

It's what is in Max Christensen's Kunlun System.

I've not really done the prescribed exercises as I already received a Lingbao transmission - it's just filling in gaps for me. I've been practicing talismans the past 3 years or so now. Jason is a cryptolinguist by education and training who has spent much time in China and married into a sorcerer's family. If you want more information about other, similar Daoist practices I was pointed this way. I'm primarily waiting for his Fox Immortal book - it's going to have information on Liu Ding Liu Jia practices that will fill in the Chinese gaps a bit better on the Kuji Kiri I learned from Chris Matsuo's students. https://www.amazon.com/Thunder-Sky-Secrets-Acquisition-Exercise/dp/157062660X https://www.amazon.com/Gold-Pavilion-Taoist-Peace-Healing/dp/0804830606

I've rather enjoyed Jason's Facebook group and received this along with other PDFs prepared for people looking to practice. This is intimately related to the Daoist roots of Reiki.

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