bodyoflight

the true purpose of being a teacher is to share your knowledge and wisdom with others so that they may evolve that much quicker.. but others have the right to accept your teachings, modify them or reject them.. refusing to share knowledge/wisdom with others cos they disagree with you is just your ego brandishing its pride.. the concepts of teacher and student are egoistical concepts.. we are all teachers who have something to offer others.. we are all students who can learn from others..

you might carry it for me if you want.. i am sick of it..

You completely misunderstand that quote. What Jiddu really meant is that it is necessary to question leaders. He never said anything about rejecting them outright.

Why ask me? See with your own eyes

Why ask me? See with your own eyes

You know what's really funny? There's so much politics going on in spirituality and among the highest levels of spiritual masters in this world too. In fact, the level of "politics" in spirituality is much higher than the mundane level of politics found in the world's alphabet agencies, the world's governments and biggest MNCs in the world. Cos the "politics" of spirituality involve the aims of opening up the minds/souls of the masses. They involve energy work and working agreements with parties other than humans born on this earth. It is fcuking hysterical, it really is.

sunya, are there any tibetan ritual tools needed in the program? I am talking about the dorje, the bell and possible the vajra as well.. thanks..

I don't necessarily agree that every syllable of the program is time and energy efficient but trekcho does seem rather useful with helping us progress on hindsight.

Various things. I am lucky enough to meet and learn from teachers of various traditions and cross-reference their truths with each other. So yeah, I more or less understand what is true and what is false. The topic of this thread is not about what I do however. I am just here to learn more knowledge, more wisdom and to evolve myself. This thread, however, is about how lots of parents and grandparents all over the world whose ignorance have hindered the evolution of their children and grandchildren. I once debated with a very high taoist master on the nature of the universe. He said that I was different from other people who have debated with him. He said that although I have my own views and do not agree with everything he said, I remained very respectful and polite unlike other people who is very arrogant about what they think when debating with him. Those other people rudely criticize the taoist master flat out with the arrogance of their own views. I told him it is because I have not verified my own truths 100% yet so how can I stamp my version of truths on the world? What I can do however is to constantly challenge the truths of this world, to challenge not only other people's truths but also my own truths as well. That is how we evolve cos the world is constantly evolving as well. However, too many parents and grandparents think they know it all and expect their children/grandchildren to think the same outdated thoughts as them. It sickens me to see how the demon of ignorance rule in this world.

Hundun, i have a question.. do you have a problem with students whose might have greater potential and higher intelligence than you? you said you studied lots of systems and you have stripped those systems of its traditional wrappings and unnecessary elements.. in stripping those systems, how do you think the teachers who taught you would feel about you changing their systems due to the fact that you have greater potential and higher intelligence than them? I am a heretic too and a master heretic at that .. the first rule of being a heretic however is that you must be very willing to change the rules.. not only for others but for yourself as well.. however, i get the feeling that you are very willing to change the rules of others but not the rules for yourself.. "There is no such thing as a smart human being for it is only a matter of time before their ideas are updated, changed or eradicated." - ZEITGEIST Nobody's ideas and concepts last forever.. not yours nor mine.. that is the true path of a seeker cos enlightenment is an ever evolving path..

the grandmother's ignorance is hindering the evolution of the granddaughter enuff said

hey alwayson, thank you for your prompt reply.. some members are already kind enough to offer me some great knowledge through Private Messaging.. I have learnt to always check my Private Messages from now on.. you never know when Santa Claus is gonna call.. LOL..

Offended?.. incredulous is more like it As I said, I feel pretty incredulous that those who claim to know everything actually know very little, and those who know a lot keep their mouth shut. And that is where the buddhist view on attachment to your sensory senses come into play. You see the world with your physical sight and you accrue false views about the world based on the very limited information gathered from your physical sight. Monkey see, monkey do. There is a difference between being grounded and being afraid of change. Uh-huh.. I see.. Btw do you know the richest, most powerful (spiritually, financially, mentally or otherwise) and most evolved people on this earth are also only into Siddhis and aliens? I have also seen a lot of new-agers who pretend to do spiritual work all for the sake of appearing cool enough so that they will find a spouse to love them or friends to accept them. It is because they did not receive enough love when they were young and now that they are grown up, they would ignore the truth and love in themselves and seek to find the love which they lacked outside themselves. Pretty pathetic, if you ask me.

Naruhodo! At least, it is better than finding out all kinds of mistruths spewed by rats in other forums. This forum is more truthful than most, I suppose and rats have a harder time surviving in here. Namaste! Please have a good week ahead! The SUN is shining so bright today my eyes hurt!

I am very disappointed at the state of things but hardly angry.. which posts of mine in this thread showed anger?..

really 100 bucks? shucks.. i think i better forget about it then..

siddhis are just siddhis.. they don't belong to the CIA or buddhism or taoism anymore than the sun belonging to your or me.. as for the rest of your post, well if you have a more truthful version of human history than the one I have learnt over the years, I am all ears..

as i said, what's inappropriate for you may be very appropriate for other people.. it would be egoistical of you to judge what other people can or cannot achieve.. remember the 4-min mile? no one actually thought it was possible until roger did it.. so don't ever use your own experiences to judge what's possible or impossible.. no human have the authority to do that.. think about it..

I am curious but never concerned about where anyone else is along their path. It is never my prerogative to tell others what they should or should not do. I give them options maybe even some warnings then send them along their way. But there are some in here who dispenses advice with the attitude that they are the sole authorities on what's right or what's wrong. It sickens me.

You assumed wrong. I have been looking at many other threads as well. There are some here who gives knowledge freely with the noble intent of helping others progress on their path asap. Yet there are some others who would insist that other people follow their own structure of learning paradigm. It would be egoistic to think that everyone is at the same level as one particular person. Some are faster in some areas. Some are slower in some areas. Does one have the psychic ability to know the true potential of a person and how much he is able to handle? If not, then I think it would be egoistic to say that everyone should follow the same structure. Don't always look at things from your point of view in relations to matters which are not your own. In my case, my path of progress is my own matter and it would be egoistic of anyone else to say how my path should be like or how fast my path should progress.

do you think being attached to a job, marriage, kids, procreation is "balanced"?

http://www.jamilian.org/ Nevada

There are many paths to attain the rainbow body.. taoism is one, sufism is another.. the Jamilian University of the Ordained teaches it.. the Egyptian pharaohs did it.. the mayans did it and the south american mystics are still doing it.. please do not be that arrogant enough to assume that dzogchen is like the highest path in the world.. Dzogchen is one of the highest paths yes, but there is no such thing as the highest path in the world.. I quote from Zeitegist ... "All authority of any kind, especially in the field of thought and understanding, is the most destructive, evil thing. Leaders destroy the followers and followers destroy the leaders. You have to be your own teacher and your own disciple. You have to question everything that man has accepted as valuable, as necessary." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

The rainbow body is an universal phenomenon which does not belong to the tibetan buddhists. I have just watched the movies dhamma brothers last night. There were some inmates who rejected meditation cos they think meditation belong to buddhism and not christianity. However meditiation is a skill, a universal thing just like how the rainbow body is an univeral thing. Just cos some groups attach some names to a thing does not mean that thing belong to a certain order only. Namaste

Thank you for your honest reply, sunya. Thogal is what every forumer here is subconsciously and unconsciously looking for. Thogal is also known as the immortal body of light as taught by Mantak Chia, it is called the light body as taught by the taoists, the diamond body as taught by the dzogchen. Thogal is also known as solar meditation. It is the highest form of evolution of man and countless practioners of various tradtions all over the world has achieved it. And Thogal is not that hard. I already know the rudiments of it. However, I am still searching for more information on that topic. http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/9356-yeshe-lama-thogal-teachings/ The Egyptian Pharaohs practiced it, the Hindu Masters practiced it, the Mayans Practiced it, the Sufis and other ME spiritual groups practiced it, the Shinto Priests and Taoists masters practiced it so yes, this practice is known to spiritual groups all over the world. The Tibetan Buddhist monks are sometimes too arrogant, I think, in assuming that this practice is too difficult or too precious to be transmitted to the average Joe on the street.