bodyoflight

i used to smoke for 5 years.. i went to sheer hell just to quit the addictions of nicotine.. now i am trying to quit sex which is impossible because everybody is trying to throw the forces of lust at me.. but we will see what happens when i move to India.. my point is.. if i am going to die tommorrow.. there are going to be two things i will ask the universe for.. firstly, i will ask the universe to destroy the animal ego in me.. especially the attachments of greed and lust.. that would be one of the greatest achievement I will ever accomplish in my life.. secondly, i will ask the universe to grant me an immortal body of light.. that would be THE greatest achievement for me in my life..

do you think you will live forever? do you think your spouse will live forever? why are you guys so interested in starting a family knowing one day the family itself will be destroyed sooner or later? 50 years down the road.. you and your spouse will die one day.. your children will grow up and leave you and start their own families.. leaving you with.. where you are now.. so why go through the entire cycle just to end up in the beginning? i see no point.. there IS no point..

A little parable here.. "Did you ever hear the story of the Wise King?" "Nope, but I got the feeling I’m gonna hear it." "Well, there was this king, and he ruled over his kingdom. Right in the middle of the kingdom there was a well. That’s where everybody drank. One night, this witch came along… and she poisoned the well. And the next day, everybody drank from it except the king… and they all went crazy. They got together in the street and they said… ‘We got to get rid of the king, ’cause the king is mad.’ And then that night, he went down and he drank from the well. And the next day all the people rejoiced… because their king had regained his reason.” Now what happens if the king refuse to drink from the well and the people now start to hammer and torture the king until he decides to drink from the well of madness? If I were the king, I will rather kill myself than to drink from the well of madness. Not because I believe in the truth but because I know the truth. I finally know the spiritual politics which run this new reality. If you know the well to be poisoned, will you drink from it and be mad like the others or be tortured continuously till the end of time?

and what's wrong with congratulating each other on our mutual realizations of the new reality which we are in?

it should have bloody ended a million years before! jeez and i thought you are so happy living life on this planet! where are all the worries coming from? :lol:

Carry on your searching step-by-step and jumping through the hoops! I am done and going straight to the top. Or rather.. I QUIT! I RESIGN! *MIDDLE FINGER SALUTE TO THE INTERMEDIATE SUPERVISORS WHO HAVE ABUSED THEIR AUTHORITY GIVEN TO THEM BY THE ALMIGHTY BOSS!*

V I can see you already understand where I am coming from. I have to prostate myself in front of you for continuing the good fight to save the lesser souls but alas, I am not and will never be as strong as you are. Maybe because I have not even saved myself yet.. so how do I save others? P.S. Don't be influenced by those around you in your search for the truth.. Even if they are your partners, marriage, business or otherwise..

hahahhahahahhahahha... ah well..

i am sure buddha and lao tzu felt really sick of lesser beings from time to time.. they just didn't talk about it..

do i? the answers are already in this thread.. go do your own research..

lol.. you are still judging your life by "happiness", "friends", "women".. "bantering" "talking" skills are important.. "social" circles are important.. hahahhahahhahahahha.. i wish you will still be that "happy" repeating your life for the next few thousand lifetimes..

you can choose not to respond or even ignore my heresies.. feel free to do so..

what you think has nothing to do with my enlightenment..

in taoism, there is a certain path called the self-recluse path.. it is the part where by the taoist practitioner gives up everything in search of enlightenment.. "Reclusive Training: This type of Daoist training is sometimes regarded as the higher path of the Daoist Right-Hand school of training. It requires the mystic to remove him or herself from society becoming a lone sage. After recognizing the flaws of ritualistic forms of worship and giving up the politically ingrained patterns of religious dogma, the mystic generally retreats to a cave for internal introspection. Although ritualistic forms of worship are essential for purifying the mind, any form of external oriented action can also keep the mind bound to the external world. Therefore, in the highest stages of Daoist mystical training, the individual releases all attachments to material objects (people, places and things) and spiritual powers (controlling the Elements, the Six Transportations of Shen, etc.) and strives only to attain "oneness" with the eternal Dao through self-introspection. " this is what i meant by the difference in terminologies do not matter when it comes to true spiritual paths.. buddhahood to the buddhists mean enlightenment by self-introspection by the taoists.. mantak chia refer it as the dark room retreats when you seal off all light and other sensory information to find the inner light within.. the sufis do it as well.. spending time in solitary retreats to find the inner god.. http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Lord-Power-Manual-Retreat/dp/0892810181/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1305806980&sr=1-1 all mystical traditions possess such solitary meditation methods.. you were differentiating between buddhahood and enlightenment by your phrase "not all traditions are even interested in Buddhahood" all traditions ultimately lead to buddhahood and enlightenment.. but what you meant was maybe ... not all people practicing mystical paths are interested in buddhahood and enlightenment.. you practice dzogchen.. i am envious.. i have not even started yet.. you are real lucky..

you have to conquer loneliness.. it is part of the path.. i have tried to run away from loneliness from many years.. in the end.. it is the loneliness which i seek to protect myself from those around me.. the message is.. go conquer loneliness or be destroyed.. a strong message from the universe indeed....... too strong.. too powerful..

i am going for the basics first.. the foundations of stabilizing one's mind to fend off spiritual attacks .. then we talk about the long-term retreat next.. the town where i am going to be in is extremely small.. so that will qualify for remoteness..

i do not know who your teacher is? i do know who the tibetan teachers are though and i am unlikely to change my point of view based on just some heresay from a stranger on the net..

it is practicing in solitude.. not just spending half your life.. and it doesn't have to be in a cave .. as long as it is somewhere remote..

I have known a number of female spiritual practitioners.. the most spiritually successful of them all are .. unmarried.. have no kids.. and who completely dedicate their lives to true spirituality.. some of these successful ones remain in the outside world working as spiritual counselors/advisors.. some of them serve in temples.. on the contrary.. those spiritual practitioners who are married and have kids.. are prone to emotional tantrums and imbalances.. which inhibit their path to enlightenment.. you clearly do not know what you are talking about.. the age of change has arrived.. and man must realize that he can never find happiness through marriages and children.. man can never ever find true happiness in their other half.. this is a true fact which almost none can accept .. almost no one dare face the truth because... no one possess the necessary courage to face the enormity of The Tao/The Universe/The Creator all by themselves..

you are still applying the taoist methodologies of analyzing the monastic paths.. buddhahood is enlightenment.. enlightenment is buddhahood.. the differences in terminologies do not matter to the end-result of the true spiritual paths.. but.. even in tibetan buddhism itself.. there are people who practice tibetan buddhism for the sake of gaining a better job, a better spouse, more obedient kids, a better life... i know because i was one of them... most people living in the cities do not want enlightenment.. as proven by the posts in this thread.. most only want sex, spouses, families, money, careers, good lives .. they want to be comfortable till the end of their lives and then die off.. this is why most turn to spirituality and the gods.. not for enlightenment.. but for gaining a more comfortable, better life!.. ask yourself, why do you practice taoism? why do you practice qigong? why do you practice meditation? since the majority of the masses do not seek enlightenment but are in fact seeking a better life, then why would someone like me who is seeking enlightenment/buddhahood wanna stick around the mundane masses? i will be sacrificing my own welfare, my own life and my own chances at enlightenment for every day every second i remain around the masses who are not seeking enlightenment..

the highest form of bliss is the individual spiritual union with the creator.. so what's wrong with loneliness? loneliness will always be part of the spiritual path.. accept it embrace it .. like a lover.. if you can't see through the loneliness.. then you will never reach enlightenment.. one has to be comfortable to accept loneliness totally before one can become a complete human being..

I pity you.. is that all the lamas teach you? just to prostrate in front of their throne?.. so really.. even if you prostrate in front of anyone.. what's the big deal with that? does your ego gets angry at prostrating to anyone? you know ralis, someone in here told me not to waste my time with you but i wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt.. i do not want to say what he said about you because that would result in my ban.. but this post of yours really points out to me.. your human ego is still blowing the trumpets of victory!..

you are saying.. learn to fly before you learn to walk.. how about learning to walk first before running and flying?.. how about learning to expand yourself to the size of the universe first before trying that out with a woman? but then , once you learn to expand yourself to the size of the universe.. what's the point of fcuking a woman then? for your ego? to impress other people? to prove that you are superman?.. this post of yours proves that you are hardly enlightened..

i don't really care what you think.. i am following a system of spirituality where there is an established record of practitioners turning into bodies of light.. do the tahiti or taoist or osho or new mexican or even the rest of the hindu traditions have as luminous a record as the dzogchen, sakya, nyingma and other tibetan monks? there are successful cases of enlightenment in every tradition but none as numerous or as significant as the tibetans.. connect the dots and you will find no traditions as successful as the tibetans.. how big are they? how many successful practitioners are there? how well do the different lineages cooperate with each other? the different lineages do not compete with each other.. this proves that there is no ego within the tibetans as compared to the taoists who are always trying to compete with each other.. why are the tibetans located in the himalayas initially? connect the dots.. and you will see the truth..

last i checked.. the tibetan monks are doing alright.. your hermit neighbour might be following the wrong paths.. i don't intend to mix with the indians too much.. only the tibetans..