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Semen retention before having the ability to transumte it into Yang Chi (also known as steam and ecstatic conductivity) is a weak, , uneducated, and dangerous practice. The accumulation of "post heavean"Jing in its unrefined state is absolutly unwanted as it is a stricky/heavy, and will clog the energy body especially without the 2 safety valves which are Ejaculation or the "steaming" process. You need al least one Valve.

Hi I am physical therapist. An ACL which is completly torn can't regenerate because the two tips don't touch together. It can regenerate if it is partial. That said, you don't always need surgery, especially if you don't practice sport at high level. It depends on the stability of your knee.

Help me put a name (jing, chi whatever?) on the following sensations: 1) Ecstatc feeling when I am running the MCO. 2) Pressure felt/vertebral popping behind my back on the kidneys after eating adzuki beans. 3) Unpleasant pressure (blue balls like) stagnating near the perineum, and slowly going up the spine, and at the lower abdomen. It generates bad mood and depression like symptoms. It builds with retention practice (mainly aroused). This energy looks useless and heavy I have difficulty with dealing with it. 4) Heat felt when I focus on the LDT. 5) Meditative state reached when I focus for a long time on LDT: tao? shen? 6) I know Water is the symbol of sexual energy for Kan and Li meditation. Is Fire the Digestive fire/ Agni in indian terminology, the fire I feel when I am hungry? And what is "Wind" Thanks

Sorry to revive this thread. Mike how is your libido since this post: http://thetaobums.com/topic/24349-loss-of-lust-and-libido/?hl=libido Like you I struggle to balance my sexuality with all that spiritual practice, do you have any tips, thx

Is fasting a practice that has anything to do with Taoist Alchemy? Or just general health? Thx

Spirituality has never produced any work or community close to be respected by science. We practice the culture of secrecy and Initiation while science wants universalism and humanism with access to its knowledge to everybody. We tend to sectarianism, schisms and religion war, while science tends to woldwide unity and universtities around the world are working hand in hand. We favor pretentious and megalomaniac figures (crowley, 20th century yogis ala Osho) over knowledge. We practice intellectualism on subjects we don't know **** about! We need simplification, back to basics, direct methodical experience over tradition and outdated knowledge. My thirst for spirituality is absolute but I really despise having to dig into the INSANE amount of bullshit our communities produced.

Why would anyone want no sexual thoughts/arousal? What is the theory behind this? Don't you think there is a reason for your manifestation including that body of yours?

IMO "Love, live in the present, be kind..." is as irrelevant as "be enlightened!!" You just can't force yourself into it as love/compassion are byproducts of an healthy/advanced circulation of energy, love is our natural state. I can create psychic blockages by various methods and be a complete irritable asshole the whole day, then later nearly cry of empathy for the same people I despised previously.

I don't think one should watch this kind of material repeatedly. there is a chance this systematic habit which consist at looking for weird symbols, occult meaning into meaningless things is not sane.

Yes tamas definitely cancel sattvas. My experience so far is that despite ingestion of meat, under certain circumstances, I still can have an upward flow of energy without creating lust or accretion of dense energy in the perineum while practicing retention or bramacharya. Still not as sattvic as when I was vegetarian for sure, but I feel like I have way more impact on the "energy" side of cultivation while doing so. Because meat has a disctinct caracteristic,unrelated to the gunas concept, I found it able to bring RAW energy (which you can dye, transmute into whatever you want with the gunas), instantly after consumption, I think this raw energy may be "jing". I tried everything to give up meat (adding "root vegetables", or red ones, or tamasic vegetables as onions, for they are supposed to stimulate the lower chakras and nothing shared the same disctinct energetic effect, all they were able to do is to bring tamasic/sattvic vibration). I tried ginger and even the "trinity roots" recipe of yogi bajhan, but all it can do is dye a preexistent energy. I also tried ashwagandha and red ginseng. Also we should not forget that a little bit of tamasic quality is needed for the body and the lower aspects of our psychism, one can become "too sattvic".

Very interesting. I would like to add I am able to remain mainly Sattvic while eating meat. Meat gains its tamasic quality when transformed/left over/frozen/conserved. But if eaten fresh and cooked with sattvic side dish then the overall meal will be sattvic. And one should not eat meat again when the previous one is not expelled from the body because the tamas will add up. Thus you benefit from both qualities: Etheric energy gained from fresh meat + Overall sattvic movement of energy (upward) = Sublimation

And remember when on the preacher side you are the one who does'nt learn anymore.

You will have to find cultivation related arguments to convert people from this board.

Downward flow of energy from the psychism into sexual energy/semen is actually what happens for the majority of the population. Could we qualify this as physiological? I can't believe everybody around us belongs to a "black lodge"

You elevated veganism into a Dogma. What happens when people try to have an alternative discourse on a dogma is what you are doing right now: try to ridiculize, or use petty rhetoric because your feelings hurt, you act like your whole lifestyle is at stake.

Vegan diet in spiritual communities is mainstream and discussion about it is not even allowed. The "meat diet" is regarded as an "anomaly", or because you don't know "how to eat vegan", but never it would be considered a genuine conclusion drawn by a methodical cultivation approach. Yogic traditions all says that meat/fish nurture the two-three first chakras, anything related to the physical realm and sexuality. What do you want to sublimate if you don't have radiant sexual energy to begin with? Paths which consider only the higher chakras, the refined energy, full silence/water method as the only way to go are missing a half of the equation. Look at all the arguments you are compliling about this subject, from "There is no room for meat on our planet anymore" to "antibiotic resistance" . Those are the signs of an unhealthy approach to this subject, you are defending more a position, a whole lifestyle than a truly sincere approach to the path.

"Unless strict records are kept of everything you do in your life" That is actually what I am doing, every single day everything I eat and do (cultivation related). I don't want to convince you. I want to offer an alternative for random people here, truly motivated cultivators who grow tired of the mainstream raw vegan propaganda. We don't want traditions or morality: we want cultivation success.

What happened when I was vegetarian is that my energies were so refined both my sexual centers (no more ecstasy, no more bliss in meditative states) and intestinal system were not nurtured anymore: I don't call that "health". (Agni and the digestive fire are decreased,especially if you eat raw (very bad for health in ayurveda) Then I understood cultivation and tantra is about realising the wholeness of our being from the gross to subtil we are the whole, and every part of it has to be nourished without disdain. Cultivation is about linking ("yoga") every part/realm of our being into unity.

IMO the subject of meat in the whole spiritual community is way too affected by traditionalism and moral considerations (for instance veganism in india ) that is hindering the very basis of their cultivation. Also veganism looks more hardcore, so, it must be the way? In "living with himalayan masters" swami Rama met a tantrika who ate meat and digestive spices with two of his yogini by his sides, this man was able to read into rama's mind, Kudos to this guy, can't be easy to inspire hatred and aversion in his own community. Rama jumped in the bandwagon with all the haters instead of learning. Meat is tamasic but also has a unique effect on the energy (jing?) which leads to sexual energy or spiritual energy if it is fresh (unprocessed/unfrozen, and cooked) that is unmatched in the vegetal realm. On a philosophical point of view, Life evolved and survived ONLY because some part of it was nourishing on others, nothing did it alone (well maybe the promordial bacteria or something like that?) We should not look at this subject individualy, but with the grand scheme of Life itself.

Yes this is something a lot of us experimented. There is an effect on charisma and attraction. This is why advanced mystic and guru have such an audience.

Imho don't lose your time with weird lineages which provides video of photoshoped kamehameha over youtube (kunlun). Energy of humans come from the perineum not the other way around. If water method meant what you think Who the hell would want to degenerate his subtil energy into gross energy? "water method" means that instead of increasing the amount of energy send from the perineum (with breath retention etc...) you will focus on softening the obstructions with techniques like "sinking"

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Hi, what is your diet?

Hello, what you are trying to do (ascendance of physical energy into refined energy) is a Tantric path (and taoist...). The most important thing to maintain a bramacharya and allow your energy to progressively ascend is your diet. There is NO WAY you can begin a healthy retention practice with a normal diet, you will just produce semen and sexual energy endlessly, you are clearly not "Sattvic" enough. Some foods (meat, eggs) contains an etheric energy (the closest to physical, not contained by vegetal food) which is processed by the body to physiologically transmute into sexual semen by a downward flow of energy. Sattvic = promotes ascendance of energy physically (up the body) AND its vibration. Tamasic = promotes a downward flow AND lowers its vibration You need to start with a "sattvic diet" to allow the ascendance of energy (and other "sattvic" practices qi gong or yoga practices...). When you are very sattvic your body will now have a different functioning, your GI tract will try to refine and ascend energy instead of processing it into sexual energy. At this point you can practice bramacharya fovever, you can even have sex you don't need blockage techniques or anything since the downward flow is reduced to the minimum... BUT sattvic food is a very bad fuel for the body (the physical body and the first three chakras) you would just end up depleted without any physical strength nor ecstatic or sexual energy and you would not be able to produce enough energy to have a powerful spiritual practice (the one you are practicing, your bottom to top approach) SO you need to reintroduce those foods which contain etheric matter in a very small amount (poultry for instance but your overall diet should remain sattvic) 1-2 times per week because you can't process too much yet, this food will now produce a huge amount of energy. Once you have this huge primitive energy in the lower centers they may awaken... And you know what happen next. Tantra or taoism is a bottom to top approach, and if you use a bastard/mixed practice using an all vegan diet trying to awaken a lower centers emanation (kundalini) it doesn't make any sense from the beginning. Progressively your GI tract/cauldron will "purify" and be able to process much more and this energy will radiate into your body.

I can't recommend anything but the first thing is to determine if you have a Vata or Kahpa imbalance, in both case you have a bad digestion.