Raymond Wolter

Ya Mu, cannot disagree with you one bit! I want to start off something on the energetic levels in addition to anapana, zen style of meditation that I currently do. I will surely want to look at your DVD as well? Would you have a youtube video or something of the form? Is it easy enough to learn from a video and practice right till I can train with you or another teacher of the form? Thanks.

Thanks Bindo. Stand still be fit is my favorite link so far.

Interesting! Profanity is what you use to seek attention and convey the force of your feelings. Thanks. That put a rest to whatever I wanted to say. I guess a civil conversation is not something I can expect of you as your feelings multiply in force. I will get back to looking at my list of Qigongs. Most wasteful 20-so minutes I ever spent in my life.

So look at the divisive nature of these supposedly beneficial arguments: 1. Taoists vs Buddhists 2. Passive Missionary vs Active Missionary 3. Less Open Minded vs More Open Minded 4. Asian Buddhists vs Western Buddhists. Do such arguments really help a community? Every forum degrades into screaming when such issues creep in. By the way, comparative religions section in e-sangha was closed long ago I guess? By the way generally Taoists have a higher regard for Buddhism than any Buddhist I have seen. Tao is universal and they cannot find issues with a universal concept behind their philosophy. Buddhists on the other hand need to attack the universalists, for whatever reason. Vajrahridaya thinks out of compassion for suffering human beings, and you have another reason?

But you didn't and that was the whole point.

No need to get abusive with smilies and all. Don't appreciate that, at all. Vajrahridaya has explained his stand on why it is necessary to convert. Like I does, some do it consciously and some unconsciously. Actually a christian thinks he is saving someone from satan and tries to convert. And a Buddhist for the sake of saving others from suffering. How are they different? I don't think sensible conversions based on ideology are that bad but Buddhists won't admit that they are as good or bad as any other religion. Vajrahridaya gets an applause from me for being frank and making no bull stories and smilies and trying to pretend.

Vajrahirdaya seems to think differently. I was a member of e-sangha forum and there too every Buddhist thought Buddhism was perfect. Theravadas thought Hindusim, Jainism, Christianity as flawed but Buddhism and especially Thearavada was perfect and better than the rest. Vajrayana forum thought the same about Vajrayana. So, what you alluded to was that Buddhism is better or superior than Toaism? Buddhists also frequently think Taoists don't get what Emptiness is all about. So how are they different? Not sure I understood what you were trying to say with the high-fiving thing when all religions do the same. I don't understand the need to convert everyone into Buddhism. I used to see the same attitude in other Buddhist forums as well. But why do Buddhists try to use all kinds of arguments, ways and means to consciously or sub consciously try to convert every one into Buddhists? Simply be and let be is better? Just my 2 cents.

So you recommend Buddhism as the answer to all spiritual needs? I mean entire world following Buddhism is the only perfect solution to problems of every kind? Also, is Buddhism suitable for all irrespective of culture, temperament etc.? Now every religion feels the same. So, how would you impose your view on others? What nac and you are saying is that other religions are incomplete or don't make total sense, so convert to Buddhism? I like Buddhism a lot but is this the right thing to do for any religion?

Except Buddhism?

Thanks Scotty. I find your posts on this forum very practical and helpful. Thanks again. For a beginner, do you think it is easier to learn from Winn's video and then refine the form by reading the book and using Rubbo's youtube videos?

Thank you. Can you please point me to some resources to read more about this system?

Thank you Altiora and Shaktimama. I just got to know that Ole Gabrielsen, the founder of a dozen Reiki systems including KR turned Christian and denounced Reiki as evil or satanic or something. I don't think I want to buy his attunement mp3s any more.

Thanks Hundun. I have always heard good stuff about JAJ. Will be sure to check him out. For some reason, I assumed his form is very difficult, but that doesn't seem to be the case? I just read this and took it as a negative on Spring Forest qigong. Probably I misread the statement here.

Thanks Michael. Is Winn's Pangu the same as Pangu Mystical Qigong or Pangu Shengong by Ou wei which has three levels - physical, mental and condensed?

Hello Tao Bums... Glad to have found this awesome forum.

Thank you. I would like to check out your system but at this point, I am leaning more towards those systems/teachers who think their system can be learnt from a DVD, like for example Spring Forest.

Thanks. I hope you're not simply kidding. In any case, Mo Pai is not accessible to people so that would be the biggest Con I guess. I wonder though is there something that is accessible and comparable to its effects like Mo Pai or Wang Liping's system?

Dear Susan, How can someone who does not have 300$ receive Shaktipat? I read on this thread that being open and asking for it gets one Shaktipat? But I don't find that happening for me because I am not ready or being open? Are there any practical methods to receive shaktipat from ascended masters, like mantras, meditations etc.? Also does reiki awaken kundalini? I am contemplating Reiki as it seems simple and attunement is shaktpat? Thanks.