Brian

Yes and yes, just as the Nation of Islam and the Klan and Black Lives Matter and the CPUSA should. Freedom of speech is not about protecting ideas everyone likes.

No, I am arguing in favor of individual sovereignty, uniform rule of law and limited-government. I find white nationalism, black nationalism, national socialism, democratic socialism and all other forms of oligarchical collectivism repugnant.

Did you know that award-winning writer Gertrude Stein proposed that Hitler should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize?

Who decides which thoughts are acceptable and which are dangerous? Which thoughts are permissible and which are impermissible? Which thoughts are mandatory and which are forbidden? The Thought Police? The Ministry of Truth? You see the problem here?

You exist in this thread but not in the other one just like it in that parallel universe.

Seemed pretty linear to me but, for some reason, it made me hungry. Fortunately, it is lunch time! FWIW, I am having a fine time in this life so I'm in no hurry for it to end but I'm also not worried about that, and I'll be just fine (better than fine, actually) with getting right back on this merry-go-round again. Or not. Whatever. <shrug>

They show up in a quote a few posts down. I just thought this chapter fit into the conversation in this thread at that point...

He goes on to say: The energy which can be spoken is not the complete energy, The conservation laws which can be written are not the true conservation laws.

I suspect it is helpful, when discussing forms of energy -- especially poorly understood forms from an analytical perspective -- to begin with an understanding of the concept of energy itself. Perhaps this will be of some value: http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_04.html#Ch4-S1

We have come to understand that much of what happens with our bodies in terms of changes and developments comes about from energetic triggers which activate existing mechanisms and unlock previously inaccessible potentials. This can range from molecular fingerprints which are like key sequences that control bindings and things like endocrine systems, to the way a virus "comes alive" when it is in proximity to its target/host cell. The very structure, construction and operation of the DNA molecule itself is built around energy patterns -- encoded sequences of energetic frequencies which convey information and activate latent potentials. It is quite beautiful and seems to be a remarkably pervasive operating principle. As best I can tell, it is fundamental.

Sounds like one of those video games my son and his friends used to play for hours when he was a kid.

Information is carried by energetic vibrations.

What an interesting gambit. Let's see how it plays out... I have lots of Jewish friends who say your Jewish friends are fucking idiots who think they can trade freedom for security and deserve neither. Oh, wait... Maybe that was Benjamin Franklin. I have lots of Jewish friends, including one who was there when the Second Temple was torn down and he says... No, I take that back. He was moved to Israel from Germany as a child, in 1947. He was in the Army during the '67 war and was Intelligence during the little '73 thing. He's the ailing husband of a co-worker and we have had a number of discussions about the state of the world and the state of the nation. He thinks you leftists are a bunch of clueless cry-babies who need to grow a set while you still have the chance. Yeah, actually, I am quite certain David would approve of that statement.

Any ideology should be allowed to be thought and to be spoken -- even that most vile of all, oligarchical collectivism by any name. Rhetoric discussing beliefs and philosophies and principles is quite different from rhetoric actually calling for or inciting violence and the latter is already criminal, although we see it is not evenly enforced. Uniform enforcement of the law is critical.

There's a difference between free speech in the public square and harassment. Are you actually familiar with the particulars in that case? 1940. Chaplinsky was a Jehovah's Witness preaching in the public square. Passersby took offense at him suggesting organized religion was "a racket" and began trying to intimidate him, harassing him for not being willing to salute the flag, striking him and attempting to impale him with a flagpole. A local marshal warned him he was in danger as soon as violence had begun but chose not to intervene or arrest his attacker, choosing instead to walk away and leave this man surrounded by a hostile crowd. When the marshal returned, the battered man, now pinned against a parked car, called the marshal a racketeer and a damned fascist for not protecting his rights. The marshal arrested him, citing New Hampshire law which made it illegal to use "any offensive, derisive or annoying word to anyone who is lawfully in any street or public place ... or to call him by an offensive or derisive name." Chaplinsky argued that his Constitutional rights under the First & Fourteenth Amendments had been violated. Two years later, the US Supreme Court unanimously decided Chaplinsky should have expected violence and that "fighting words" (like calling organized religion a "racket" or a law enforcement officer "fascist") are not protect speech. I think the case was a travesty of justice.

Did you listen to any of the speeches which were given at the demonstration on Friday night or Saturday? Do you know what was actually said? Or what the purposes of the rally were intended to be? Do you know who the attendees were? Are you advocating for the banning of any gathering with the aim of gaining power over others or carrying a "peace-disturbing" message? Or only those you personally find offensive? Seems dangerous territory and a pathway which plays right into the hands of those who might seek to control thought and suppress free-will. In my opinion, it is best to have ideas -- ugly and otherwise -- freely expressed in the public forum so that they can be weighed according to their own merits by all those who hear them.

I'll send some your way...

What do you mean by your "previous incarnation?"

Rains here nearly every day this time of year: http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=35.417020000000036&lon=-82.81202999999994#.WZEF9KApDqA The purpose for the tent with the hole in it is to put your bare butt on the ground.

I amuse myself -- anything else is just gravy.

It was quite impressive, I thought. <golf-clap>

None taken, my friend. I find most things are amusing if you don't take them too seriously. Especially me.