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That is up to each person to judge. In the near future I believe people will consider each action very carefully again, just like in the old days.. Wu Wei - going with the flow of nature, actions without intent and pursuit is the way of the future world. Just my two cents, no truth offered whatsoever.

Mathematicians do know maths(I actually studied a decent level of university maths in those days so I know my limitations) and they have shown over and over again that random mutations over million of years never could generate human beings - it is mathematically impossible when you dig into the genetic data and calculate probabilities(probability is zip zero for evolution to ever have happened).. Maths on very high levels is incomprehensible to ordinary people and Einstein is probably right that many of those theories may be wrong since almost no people can understand them and hence such a person may go wrong in their axioms without any other human beings seeing it.... I find it quite amusing when biologists attack mathematicians for not being "biologists" and not understanding evolution.... In fact mathematicians took the facts that the biologists provided them with and then did the maths for them..... So in fact the biologists themselves are responsible for disproving evolution, but many of them refuse to discuss the fundamentals because of high emotions and prestige. There is no human being randomly created by mutations over millions of years. Like OP´s statement about the water plant evolving into a human being - it does not exist since that can not happen according to the mathematical laws of genetics. Evolution is a political theory created by Catholics(Jesuits) to control people. I am claiming Gods/Buddhas/Daos created heaven and earth from their positions in the higher dimensions. All animals and plants etc exist for human beings. When one is a human being in complete illusion one has a unique chance to cultivate up to high dimensions, that is what Samsara is all about and that is why it is said in Buddhism one should value time in one´s life because a human body is very hard to come by. Just my two cents, no truth offered whatsoever.

Would you be so kind and clarify who you are talking about? I guess those people you refer to would be happy to see you argue well about the subject on this thread, rather than talking about their lack of intellectual and/or spiritual qualities. As far as I know intolerance is an attachment that must be discarded in orthodox cultivation.

Sorry, my mistake, I sincerely apologize. I quote: http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/jmac/sj/scientists/lunacrat.htm "When astronauts in our lunar orbiter described the rough terrain beneath them they had to use Jesuit names." 35 moon craters named after Jesuits are still a "mystery" to the world.. I believe the Darwin family, our old Darwins(both Sr and Jr) are deemed one of the most important jesuits in the history to influence the masses to become atheists. The catholic church can not even publicly conceal their joy anymore concerning evolutionism(and hence atheism), and I believe these lunar jesuit craters are just their way of telling the world what they did to the people of this world. Quotes about Jesuits: http://letsrollforums.com/jesuit-quotes-citations-t14412.html "My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order’s] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. … I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [ignatius de] Loyola." John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States) "It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe." Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.) "The war [i.e., the American Civil War of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits." Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865; 16th President of the United States, Note: Please see the end of this document for the full quotation by Lincoln.) "The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the starting of the two world wars – a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict." Edmond Paris (Author of the book The Secret History of the Jesuits) "The Jesuits…are a secret society – a sort of Masonic order – with superadded features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous.” Samuel Morse (1791-1872; American inventor of the telegraph; author of the book Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States) ((Note: For Morse’s full quotation from which this excerpt was taken, please see the end of this document.)) "[The Jesuits] are the deadly enemies of civil and religious liberty." R. W. Thompson (Ex-Secretary, American Navy) "The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power – power in its most despotic exercise – absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] – and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses…" Napoleon I (i.e., Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821; emperor of the French) “…The Roman Inquisition…had been administered since 1542 by the Jesuits.” F. Tupper Saussy (Author of the book Rulers of Evil) "Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [Thomas J. Campbell]. …Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection." (1987) J.E.C. Shepherd (Canadian historian) Just my two cents, no truth offered whatsoever.

Well, that is your fact, not mine and "it" definitely has nothing to do with scientific theories as has been shown here. Maths tell truth. Biologists, archaelogists etc have "opinions" but maths show you real numbers. The numbers show us evolution is a preposterous theory. PS: I am confident the "Lunar society" was a(the fact is that Darwin Sr founded it) secret jesuit organization, their usual way of working behind the scenes. "Coincidentally" the Jesuits made sure every Lunar crater was named after Jesuits. Wasn´t that to honor the Darwin family and the Lunar Society for their past "services" to the atheist Jesuit society?.. History is quite interesting indeed.

Being a physicist and a former student of JCM I must say that people in general these days believe in radio waves and they don´t believe in Gods(lipsworks don´t count), they really believe they understand radio waves- but they never saw radio waves and have no clue what they really are except what is told from modern science who can not observe them either. People just see a specific effect in our dimension from the radio waves and hence believe in them and that they understand them. People in general don´t understand or relate to higher dimensions(where Gods and other beings reside), although being scientifically and mathematically proven since a very long time. People don´t even accept modern high-level science these days because it is too abstract for the masses. And modern science points to a myriad of other dimensions being real, present around us at all times and infinitely more powerful(the smaller building blocks in a specific dimension the higher radiation(energy)) than our dimension. In fact the invisible(to us) beings living in those dimensions rule us like nothing since they have so much more energy and can pass through our bodies like nothing and they can control our thoughts(they are matter too according to modern science). Evolution is a theory which was politically pushed by modern society and church on a large scale. As soon as people really start thinking for themselves they will easily refute it. I don´t think I know a single physicist or mathematician who truly believe or argue for the evolution theory, no matter whether they are atheists or not. Sure, there will be people with ulterior motives but the hard facts are just hard facts and genuine mathematicians/physicists really do understand logics and they can do calculus.. "Preposterous" is a good word talking about that ridiculous theory of evolution: PS: The Definition of "Science" Most students do not fully grasp the relationship between "science" and God. The relationship is easy to explain: God is not welcome in science textbooks or in science classrooms. There is no room for God in science even if He exists. This is curious, because God does exist and He is many billions of times smarter than any scientist. It is as if the scientific establishment doesn't want any competition from God by forcing science students to worship high ranking scientists. Let us consider the definition of "science" as given in a small booklet published by the National Academy of Sciences. "In science, explanations are limited to those based on observations and experiments that can be substantiated by other scientists. Explanations that cannot be based on empirical evidence are not part of science." Science and Creationism1, Page 1 It sounds like a good definition, and in fact it is consistent with many other definitions of "science" which have been around for many decades. But the main thing this definition is designed to do is exclude God from "science." Let us analyze the above definition. First, note the term "limited" above. What that implies is that anything which is not overtly in the definition is excluded from consideration as being "science." For example, if God creates something (like the Universe or human DNA), according to the above definition, it is not defined as "science" because it cannot be "substantiated by other scientists," nor can it be "observed" by scientists, nor can it be replicated with "experiments" in a lab by scientists. Nor are God's actions "empirical" (i.e. based on practical experience). Thus there are five different ways that God is excluded from "science," by the above definition: 1) By "limiting" the definition of science exclusively to what is in the definition, 2) Because God's actions cannot be substantiated by other scientists, 3) Because God's actions cannot be observed by other scientists, 4) Because God's actions cannot be replicated by experiment by other scientists, 5) Because God's actions are not part of the practical experience of other scientists (i.e. empirical evidence). Thus, the term science is "limited" to what scientists can do in a lab. The term "science" therefore means: "the absence of God." However, this is a two-edged sword. Scientists cannot create a Universe in their lab, thus the Big Bang theory, meaning a theory that the Universe came to be by an accidental Big Bang, is not science, using their own definition of "science." Scientists cannot create huge "black holes" in their labs. Thus, since they cannot replicate the Big Bang in their labs; a theory which includes an accidental Big Bang is not part of "science" either, by definition. Thus, no theory of how the Universe came to be is technically "science" by the above definition because it is impossible to replicate the Big Bang in a science lab, whether it was accidental or carefully planned or there was some other mechanism. However, as might be suspected, there is a double-standard in science. The scientific establishment rejects the claim that God created the Universe via a highly controlled Big Bang, because it cannot be substantiated by scientists. However, the scientific establishment accepts the claim that random accidents created the Universe even though such random accidents cannot be replicated or substantiated by scientists. In other words, the scientific establishment, using absolutely zero scientific evidence, considers a "Big Bang" created by a series of accidents to be "science," but a Big Bang initiated by God is considered "unscientific" and such a belief is not part of "science" and is not allowed in science classrooms. Did you understand what was just said? If God created a controlled Big Bang, it is not "science." But if scientists have a ludicrous theory about how the Big Bang happened by a series of impossible accidents, even though they cannot replicate how this could have happened in their labs, or prove it could have happened; this theory is part of science. Astronomers, to get published in official scientific publications, must explain the existence of the Universe without mentioning God. In other words, astronomers who believe God created the Universe are not allowed to voice the reasons for their views in "scientific publications" (i.e. literally translated via the above definition: "publications without God") because God is not a scientist. Thus, the above definition of "science" is only designed to do one thing - exclude God from science. Other than being used to exclude God, the definition is largely ignored. http://www.mathematicsofevolution.com/Mathematics_Of_Evolution.pdf

Reincarnation is for real, it is just becoming more and more obvious to people as each day passes.... Also David Deutsch, famous Quantum Mechanics professor, has affirmed that human beings have bodies existing in other time-space dimensions simultaneously as our current flesh body... http://www.personalgrowthcourses.net/st ... before.htm Reviews: "A curious and completely fascinating tale" - Sunday Mirror "A moving and fascinating story - guaranteed to have you glued to the screen" - Daily Record http://www.octoberfilms.co.uk/productio ... ry=science A British Boy Who Remembers His Previous Life * Mind Body [PureInsight.org] Do people really have previous lives and future lives? The Sun, a UK newspaper, reported a story of a boy who remembers his previous lives. This six-year-old boy is called Cameron Macaulay. He is not much different from other boys of his age. What differentiates him from others is that he likes to talk about his "old mum", his former family and a white house standing on the bay. But none of them is related to his current life. The place he is talking about is a place where he had never been in this life and is on the Isle of Barra, 160 miles away from where he is living now. These things make Cameron's mother feel worried. Cameron's memory of his previous life Cameron's mother Norma, 42, said that Cameron began to tell tales of his childhood on the Isle of Barra. Cameron spoke about his former parents, how his dad died, and about his brothers and sisters in the previous life. He also said that his "old mum" was the one in his previous life. Cameron believes that he has a previous life and he worries that the family in his previous life misses him. His nursery school teacher told Norma all the things Cameron was saying about the Isle of Barra and how he misses his mummy and his brothers and sisters there. Norma said, "He complained that in our house there was only one toilet, whereas in Barra, they had three. He used to cry for his mummy. He said she'd be missing him and he wanted to let his family in Barra know he was all right. Cameron felt very sad. He wouldn't stop talking about Barra, where they went, what they did and how he watched the planes landing on the beach from his bedroom window. " Cameron even said his dad was called Shane Robertson, who had died because "he didn't look both ways." (It probably means that his father was hit by a car.) Norma mentioned that they had never been to the Isle of Barra. At the beginning, they just regarded Cameron's story as something from his vivid imagination. Cameron continued to feel sad for leaving the home in his previous life on the Isle of Barra, and his feeling of distress lasted for several years. One day, Cameron's nursery teacher told Norma that a film company was looking for people who believed they had previous lives. She suggested Norma talk with them about Cameron. But Norma's family felt frightened since many people didn't believe in reincarnation. Norma is a single mother and has another son, Martin, who is one year older than Cameron and also has been affected by this thing. Meanwhile, Cameron kept begging her to take him to the Isle of Barra. Norma eventually decided to take Cameron to Barra, to see what they could find. Visit the Isle of Barra Norma contacted the film company. They joined Cameron's trip to Barra. Psychologist Dr. Jim Tucker from Virginia University in the U.S. also went with them. Dr. Tucker specializes in reincarnation, especially in children's cases. When Cameron was told about the trip to Barra, he was very happy and jumped all over the place. They went to Barra in February of 2005. Norma said that Cameron asked her if his face was shiny because he was very happy. When they arrived at Barra and the plane landed on the beach, everything was just as Cameron had described. He turned to Martin and Norma and said, "Now do you believe me?" When Cameron got off the plane, he waved his arms and said loud "I am back." He talked about his mother in his previous life who lived at Barra and told Norma that his mother at Barra used to have long brown hair down to her waist before she cut it off. Cameron also said that Norma and his Barra mother would like each other and he was eager to have his two mothers meet. He also talked about a big book which he read and God and Jesus. Norma said that her family is not religious, but it seemed that Cameron's Barra family in his previous life was. In Barra, they lived in a hotel and began to search for clues related to Cameron's previous life. They contacted the Heritage Centre and asked if they knew a Robertson family living in a white house on the bay. The Heritage Centre said no, which made Cameron feel very disappointed. They then drove around on the island but they didn't find the white house. Later, they realized if he could see the place's land on the beach, they must have driven the wrong way. Meanwhile they received a call from the hotel with confirmed information that there was indeed a Robertson family living in the white house on the bay. Norma said that they didn't tell Cameron about it and drove to the direction where they were told the white house was and to see what would happen. When they got there, Cameron recognized the white house immediately and he was extremely happy. When they walked to the door, Cameron became very quiet. Norma guessed that he must think that his Barra mother was waiting for him in the house as he remembered. But it turned out that there was no one in the house, he looked sad. The former owner of the house already died. The person who kept the key let them in. Cameron was familiar with the house and he knew every bit of the house. As he said, there were three bathrooms and the sea could be seen from his bedroom window. After Returning Home Researchers also wanted to track down one member of the Robertson family who owned the house. Norma said that they visited this member at Stirling. But they couldn't find any information about Shane Robertson. Cameron was eager to see the photos of his previous life family, thinking that probably he could find his father or himself. He always talked about a big black car and a black and white dog. The car and the dog were both in the pictures. Since they came back home in Glasgow, Cameron became much quieter. Norma said that it was the best thing to go to Barra. This trip made Cameron much happier and he doesn't talk about going to Barra any more. Cameron now knows that his mother and brother don't think he is making up stories, instead, they found the answers that they were looking for. Apparently, memories about previous life will fade away gradually along with the growth of the person's age. Cameron never talks about death with Norma. But he told his best friend not to worry about death, because you will still come back. When Norma asked Cameron how he came to stay with her, Cameron said that he fell down and went into Norma's abdomen. When asking him about his previous name, he said he was named Cameron in his previous life as well. Cameron's story has been filmed into a documentary by TV Channel Five in the U.K. called "The Boy Who Lived Before." Epilogue There are some stories about recalling one's previous life in Chinese historical records. For example in the fourth biography of Jinshu (Book of Jin Dynasty), it records that the well-known militarist and writer, Yang Hu, had been the son of his neighbor Mr. Li in a previous life. There are some scholars who are studying reincarnation in children. Dr. Jim Tucker mentioned earlier is one. There are other scholars like Carol Bowman who wrote a book called Children's Past Lives: How Past Life Memories Affect Your Child and Ian Stevenson who is the author of the book Children Who Remember Previous Lives. Many detailed cases they have collected all prove the existence of reincarnation. Cameron's story also tells people that our lives are actually continuous. Living and death are merely a form of existence. As Cameron told his best friend, don't worry about the death because you will just come back again. Bad deeds committed by people will not vanish when evildoers die. People should remember this and never commit anything evil. Reference: "The Boy Who Lived Before" _______________________________________ I have a hard time understanding this video because of the accent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIV8jKN4 ... re=related

Correct observation. And the Catholic church wanted to push people into the trap of "faith is everything" so that people became powerless and relied on what the priest told them. Confession sessions and letters to pay off one´s sins were also used to gain dominion over people. Gnosticism(early Christianity) was actually about cultivation of body and mind through asceticism, meditation etc and one´s actions counted for everything. Also the concept of many lifetimes needed to reach consummation was used I believe. PS: Sorry about falling out of the subject but were not Darwin and Marx hidden jesuits themselves??... I remember reading about the "converted" catholic Oxford bishop who supported Darwin shortly after his theory was published and his grandfather who launched the evolution theory originally and later started the secret Lunar society etc - later the jesuits named every Lunar crater after Jesuits... Some famous quotes about Jesuits: http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/2439365/1/ Just my two cents, no truth offered.

Well, they are all friends up there on that level I am sure. Anyway, reincarnation is another political thing suppressed by the infamous catholic church(just like they always secretly supported the evolution theory): Matthew: 13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. 15 He who has ears to hear, let him hear. It is interesting that most people still are in the dark about the catholic church(especially the jesuits role in history with their black pope superior general) and how they interfered with science and politics.

Evidence for Reincarnation from Western Medical Research: (Part I) Dr. Wambach's Past Life Regression Studies * Evidence for Spirit Author: Qing Di Is reincarnation a beautiful fantasy or reality? After hypnosis, many people claim that they can recall prior lives and seem to be able to describe them in great detail. Are they true or just fantasies? Can this be proven scientifically? Has data been collected systematically and analyzed to prove or disprove such contentions? Yes, scientific research is based on a hypothesis, in laymen's terms a question or questions, and subsequent proof or disproof of the particular theory. In the scientific community, a hypothesis won't be accepted until evidence shows it has a high probability of being true. It is well known, though, that the scientific community will subject the prediction to still further scrutiny. It is no surprise, then, that the researcher under discussion, Dr. Helen Wambach, a psychologist, maintained a questioning attitude with respect to her study on reincarnation. As a matter of fact, Carol Moore stated that the late Dr. Wambach wanted to "debunk" reincarnation. Dr. Wambach's books Reliving Past Lives and Life Before Life, published in1978 by Bantam paperback books, discussed evidence of reincarnation found under hypnosis [1], and described her research in detail. In the first half of her book Reliving Past Lives, published in 1978, Dr. Wambach talked about how she became interested in spiritual phenomena, and what got her started with her studies. She also told readers her experience of being confused, even cynical. However, she decided to continue with her research after she found what she believed to be truthful data among the vast amount of data collected. In the second half of the book, she described the data she collected and her analysis. Dr. Helen Wambach was a lecturer in an institute. Beginning in the late 1960s, Dr. Wambach conducted a 10-year survey of past-life recollections under hypnosis among 1,088 subjects. For historical accuracy, Dr. Wambach asked specific questions about the time periods in which people lived and questions about the daily live in the given periods. Dr. Wambach collected her purposive samples by organizing workshops of about a dozen people each. Dr. Wambach led them on a "four-stage journey" which lasted a full day. She charged minimal fees to fund her long-term study. The American Society of Clinical Hypnosis describes hypnosis as a state of inner absorption, concentration and focused attention. Hypnosis is a procedure during which a health professional or researcher suggests that the subject experience changes in sensations, perceptions, thoughts, or behavior, i.e., an altered state of consciousness. A cultivator understands that based on brain wave differences, being hypnotized is not similar to sleep, but similar to traditional Buddhist or Taoist meditation. Under such conditions, people could possibly use his/her wisdom eye to observe and experience his/her previous lives. Under regression therapy to a prior life, the individual can identify with a certain individual of a particular prior time period. Apparently, he/she will experience whatever the individual experienced at that particular point in time, as well as communicate verbally or orally in an ancient language. Interestingly, after awakening from regression therapy the individual will no longer be able to recognize the ancient languages. Sometimes, the individual's present personality may be able to partake in the regression in a passive role, that is, the individual will view the prior life as if he/she was watching a movie. He/she may hear the words without understanding what is being said. During the hypnotic session, the hypnotized individual may recall the time and location of the events but somehow fuse it with his personality from this lifetime or the prior lifetime. Sometimes the individual may gain supernormal abilities. He may be able to know the time and location of the particular recall. For example, when a hypnotized individual was asked a specific question about the time period and location, he/she saw with the wisdom eye a date from the Christian era, even if the hypnotized subject recalled a pre-Christian period, or a non-Christian environment. What this tells us is that pinning down the exact space-time location of the recollection can be difficult, though some hypnotized individuals may be able to pinpoint the location on a map. I believe that these messages were either from a higher being, or from the "clear side" of the hypnotized individual. A higher being is what the Buddha school calls an enlightened being. A "clear side" may refer to what is called in the Buddha school the enlightened side of an individual that can see other realities. It is clear that one cannot achieve an enlightened state under hypnosis. Under the hypnotic state the object's mind is very relaxed, thus the true self of the individual may dominate. For further information into the subject matter, please refer to two books by Dr. Michael Newton [3][4]. First, Dr. Wambach put the person into a hypnotic state and then asked questions that allowed the individual to recall prior lives. The individual will be aware of everything that is taking place and after emerging from hypnosis; he/she may be able to recall everything that took place during the session. Dr. Wambach's hypnotized 1,088 people for her study. After careful analysis of the data, Dr. Wambach concluded that the information collected under hypnosis was, with respect to historical records available to her "amazingly accurate" with the exception of 11 subjects. For example, one individual said that he played piano in the 15th century, when, in fact, the piano was invented two centuries later. Among the eleven subjects, nine gave information that deviated only slightly from the historical time frame. It is amazing that only 1% of the population was found to be inaccurate in the information provided under hypnosis. It is clear to me that if all those memories are mere illusions, such a low fail rate is impossible. Of course, one can not exclude that some were merely imaginary, as not everyone is able to use his/her wisdom eye. Compared with China, clinical hypnosis is relatively well documented and readily available in western society. I believe that the reason for this is that the mind of westerners is less complex -- a consequence of cultural influence. The wisdom eye of westerners is easy to open. Carol Moore stated that Dr. Wambach asked specific questions about the time periods, including social status, race, gender, clothing, utensils, money, housing, and the like. She used charts and tables to record this information so it would be easier to compare it to the given time period. With respect to social status, Dr. Wambach categorized people as upper class, middle class and lower class. She found that her population could be separated into10% from the upper class, 20-35% from the middle class and the remaining 55-70% from the lower class. Although the proportion of middle class cases was relatively higher around 1000 BC, the proportion later dropped, and increased again after 1700 AD, comparable to that of 1000BC. Historical records indicate that craftsmen and merchants were mainly found near the east Mediterranean Sea during that era. Business enterprises were well established. However, approximately between 60-77% of the population lived at or below the poverty level. They wore home made clothes and lived in simple thatched cottages. The majority were farmers who labored every day in the fields. None of the hypnotized individuals recalled being a famous historical figure. Those who recalled a high social position seemed highly dissatisfied with their lives, as if it was a burden to be alive. Those who recalled being a farmer or a member of a primitive tribe appeared to be content with their live. Evaluation of he data strongly suggests that it is highly unlikely that these recollections are from the imagination of the individual. Generally, people imagine themselves as a famous historical figure or a nobleman and not something as mundane as a farmer or member of a primitive tribe. With respect to the race of the subjects, Dr. Wambach selected mainly middle class whites from California. Their recollections indicated that they had lived in different geographic areas and their hair color was different during the prior life. Dr. Wambach divided them into several categories: Caucasians, Asians, Indians, Blacks and Middle Eastern descent. Around 2000 BC, only 20% of the subjects were Caucasians. They lived widely dispersed throughout what is now known as the Middle East, the Mediterranean, Europe and Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc., called central steppe during historical times). The subjects' recollections appeared to be mainly of two different races (approximately 40% each). Five subjects stated that they lived in Central Asia between 1000 and 2000 BC. They seemed to have lived in tents, which was common to the migrating population in what is called Central Asia today. Amazingly, they found themselves to have white skin color and yellow or golden hair . It doesn't appear to make any sense, as historical facts indicate that the people of that particular area should be of darker skinned and black hair. Three of the subjects appeared to have similar recollections. They wore pants made of leather. Historical records also indicate that a limited number of Caucasians, those of white skin and light hair color, had migrated to that region during that time. However, subjects did not think that their recollections had merit, as their historical knowledge did not indicate that Caucasians lived in that region during that era. However, Dr. Wambach believed the recollections to be true. Such discrepancies were found quite frequently among the collection of the data collected by Dr. Wambach. Given that the subjects did not trust their recollections, we believe that it was not imagination, built from the person's education/reading during this lifetime. The average age of the subjects was around 30 years and most were born after 1945. Forty-five of the subjects recalled prior lives between 1900 and 1945. One third were Asians. Death from unnatural causes among those living between 1900 and 1945 appeared to be very high. Many of them died during the two world wars, as well as civil wars in Asian countries. Thus, these people reincarnated shortly after they died. Surprisingly, Dr. Wambach found that 69% of the subjects who had died during the1850's were Caucasians, while between 1900 and 1945, only 40% were Caucasian. It seems that transmigration of the different races increased after 1945. What could have happened during that era? Dr. Wambach joked: that most likely many devotees of the Congregational Church reincarnated into communist China. Of interest is also that the subject's gender may not be the same during different life times. For example, a man was surprised that he was a female in a prior life and lived around 480 B.C in China. Another man was an Indian woman in his prior life, who died of dystocia (dystocia is the condition when a fetus cannot be delivered naturally because of its position in the mother's womb). He described the pain he felt, and became rather upset. Unexpectedly, the ratios between males and females among the subjects were found to be mostly the same during any of the ages. The subjects' clothing during their former lifetime also corresponded with historical records. For example, a subject who lived around 1000 B.C in Egypt described different types of clothing worn by the upper and lower classes. The upper classes wore either a half-length or full-length white cotton robe. The lower classes wore something like an exotic-looking type of pants that was wrapped downwards from the waist. The researchers viewed historic records of clothing worn during the respective periods and could therefore compare it to the descriptions of these subjects. The descriptions were found to be correct. We are also quite sure that these subjects were not familiar with what the ancient Egyptians wore. A female subject recalled that she was a knight in A.D. 1200. She said, "I feel it is very impractical. I must have illusions." She continued, "I lowered my head to look at my feet. I saw a pair of triangle-head boots. I thought they would be round-headed, just like the armor I saw in the museum." Later on, she found such triangle-head boots in an encyclopedia. According to the encyclopedia, this type of boots was worn in Italy before A.D. 1280. She had recalled that she was in Italy at that about time since she had died in 1254. Eating habits of people who lived around 500 B. C. were not that bad. Twenty percent of the subjects recalled that they ate poultry and sheep meat. However, between A.D. 25 to A.D. 1200, people's eating habits were rather poor. Though, the subjects recalled that the food was tasteless. One young man said: "I will never bad-mouth McDonald's food". It is not surprising that those who recalled the best tasting food were those who recalled a prior life in of China. One of the women subject told Dr. Wambach that she ate radishes a lot in her former lifetime. She said: "I have not eaten radishes during this lifetime, so it is a mystery to me how I knew it was radish." Several months later, her husband and she ate at a restaurant. There was some white odd-looking vegetable in one of dishes her husband ordered. After she tasted it, she told her husband it was just like the flavor of radish she ate in her former lifetime. They asked a waiter who told them that it was a radish. Another person recalled that he had lived during A.D. 800 in what is today called Indonesia. He remembered having eaten some kind of nut, that he had not had eaten or even seen in this lifetime. Later on, he saw a picture of such nuts in a magazine. "It is exactly what I had seen under hypnosis!" He said, "The article said that these nuts are only found on the island of Bali." Dr. Wambach also found from the recollections that the world's population has increased over time. After A.D. 1500, the population increased even more rapidly. It is even now rather difficult to interpret some of the data, because one has to painstakingly research connections and links to historical times. Also, earlier life times may not be as easily recalled as more recent lifetimes, although Dr. Wambach found that the degree of clarity of the subjects' recollections of former lifetimes was unrelated to time. Dr. Wambach could not explain the reason for the ever-increasing population, which is today called the population explosion. In fact, if we see the world as a huge stage, with a fixed number of actors, the number of people on the stage would still change. Furthermore, the researchers concluded that the time between death and rebirth, i.e., samsara seemed to be shorter in modern times than in ancient times. Dr Wambach also questioned those under hypnosis, during recollection of a given lifetime, the reasons for their deaths and their experiences. To protect the subjects from anguish and suffering, Dr. Wambach instructed them to suppress their negative feelings from that time. The subjects' experiences were very similar to the near death experiences reported by today's doctors and researchers. They left their bodies, looked down on their own bodies, saw light, and the relatives who had passed away earlier. They felt free from their worldly bonds and at the same time sad for those relatives still alive. Among all the subjects, 62% died of old age and illness, which the ancient Chinese called "died in his bed." Eighteen percent died violently during war, or some other manmade catastrophe and the remaining 20% died in accidents. Some subjects said that they already left their flesh bodies even before they were fatally injured. We found that in 1000 B.C. and A. D. twentieth century the ratio of people who died violently peaked. There seemed to be many localized battles among tribes during 1000 B.C. In the twentieth century, many died during an air attack when bombs were dropped on civilian areas. Usually, these people had died of smoke suffocation caused by the bomb. This information could easily be verified from recent historical records. Again we believe that the subjects' description was not an illusion, as not many people had been aware of this. Dr. Wambach's book presented a number of figures and tables, as well as the questionnaires used for her survey. Some subjects mentioned that some people they knew in former lifetimes were among those they associated with during this lifetime. I believe that this corresponds to the karmic relationship the cultivators talk about. Reincarnation may best explain Dr. Wambach's research data. We believe that to call the survey data "imaginary" would do grave injustice to a truth not fully discovered yet. For example, many readers might be familiar with Chinese history. Some are quite familiar with the events that occurred during five thousands years of Chinese history. However, we doubt that a satisfactory answer will be given by those who are familiar with "The Annals of Food and Goods" if questioned about details of lifestyle, eating habits, or type of clothing worn in the Zhou Dynasty, Song Dynasty and Qing Dynasty. Dr. Wambach was not a religious believer. She called the data she collected a "myth" of life. She also encouraged readers to obtain their own "myth". Nowadays, a great number of books about reincarnation are being published. Some of the data collected by more recent researchers are more comprehensive, profound and insightful than the data collected by Dr. Wambach. Names which come to mind include Dr. Byran Jamison [2] and Dr. Michael Newton. Nonetheless, Dr. Wambach's book is still valuable because she is so far the only investigator who completed a statistical analysis to test the hypothesis of reincarnation with a large data sample. Addendum I. Does reincarnation exist after all? Scientific data collected as of date seems to suggest that reincarnation is a fact of life. Here are some supporting pieces of evidence: 1) Scientific research has discovered many cases of prior life memory recollections among young children. These recalls were studied, categorized and confirmed through rigorous research. 2) Details that subjects recalled about their prior lives correspond to historical records. Furthermore, there was great consistency among prior life recollections of the same time periods and geographical areas. 3) Subjects recalled ancient languages and words that they did not learn during this lifetime. Furthermore, after the hypnotic state ended they no longer could speak or understand those languages. 4) Some subjects among relatives, friends, or even strangers, recalled the same people, events and details independently. 5) Recalling past lives' agonies and events were instrumental in addressing and often alleviating today's ills and problems, such as terror and long-time pain. It is very difficult to explain these phenomena as illusions. But they may not be readily accepted by modern science as evidence for the concept of reincarnation. II. Some readers from mainland China might ask: did these researchers cheat? I ask the indulgence and understanding of these researchers. China at this time is in denial about all data has not already been proven with modern science. Thus, a more detailed explanation for the Chinese reader is necessary. 1) These researchers are well known and respected in their academic fields. For example, Dr. Ian Stevenson, M.D., Professor of Research at the University of Virginia (UVA), Department of Psychiatric Medicine and Division of Personality Studies (DOPS) is prominent in his field of study, which includes the study of reincarnation. He is famous for studying past life recollections of children for more than 36 years. 2) These researchers gain nothing from fabricating such data. Publishing data on reincarnation will not get them promotions. On the contrary, publication on such controversial subjects may lead to being ostracized by their peers or it could have a negative effect on their careers. 3) Whether their data supports or denies reincarnation, their research breaks through into a previously taboo subject matter. Actually, since reincarnation is not accepted in western culture, denying reincarnation maybe more beneficial to them. 4) Many researchers are not religious believers; therefore, they don't have any intention of searching for evidence to support their religions or trying to spread their religions. Some of them were exposed to harassment from religious extremists; as western religions do not acknowledge reincarnation. 5) The information they obtained is consistent. 6) People who believe in reincarnation all know that good is rewarded with good and evil meets evil. No one dares to lie. 7) Books on reincarnation are less popular in western society. Some of the books may be difficult to obtain in bookstores. So, the motive for earning money is not there. Of course, you should judge for yourself if reincarnation exists or not. You should judge based on your personal experience and belief system. I have written this article to raise your interest about the subject of reincarnation. The reader should decide for her/himself. Nevertheless, whether we wish it or not, reincarnation is part of our culture.

Correct. All theories are not scientific, some are political. Parenthesis(good idea for a new thread): In my opinion evolution is the worst political theory invented by people with ulterior motives. It is outside the scope of this thread but evolution theory is truly debunked as soon as one starts looking at suppressed archaelogical findings. Ancient civilizations on the seafloor(but nobody wants to fund research on them..), giant skulls, footprints in rocks, ancient UFO technology etc etc. Even in NY Times they had articles about giant skeletons being found in the 1920s(approx.). All of these things quickly disappeared out of sight of course.. Just my two cents, no truth offered whatsoever.

I guess the phenomenon of oneself resembling the deceased person of an earlier lifetime is really interesting too. Even to the extent that several distinct character traits and health troubles are common. The birthmark(where your deadly wound was inflicted in your earlier lifetime) is also extremely interesting. Personally I have a strong sense about who I was in one earlier lifetime and even his sense of humour and writing style matched mine, his health troubles too... Anyway, some interesting links(I am not claiming this information is true, I just find the research and ideas very interesting): http://www.johnadams.net/cases/samples/Semkiw-Adams/index.html http://brianstalin-barackobama.blogspot.com/ Just my two cents, no truth offered whatsoever.

You may be interested in current quantum mechanics research confirming that you have simultaneous bodies in many time-space dimensions, hence you will "never" die since your other bodies will still be alive(unless you loose all your virtue they say): http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1225 Scientists Discovered the Existence of Many Worlds * Astronomy and Physics Printer-friendly version Author: Mo Xinhai Has anyone ever imagined, while looking up at the starlit sky, that within this immensely colossal universe there exist innumerable parallel universes? Scientists have discovered that there are many versions of us in each of the innumerable worlds in the universe where each version of us does different things. "All possible events, all conceivable variations of our lives, must exist." [1] All types of matter have their own characteristics, as well as forms of evolution and existence, in each world. This may sound like fiction, but the "many worlds" theory is the exact interpretation of quantum mechanics. "The credit goes to Hugh Everett, whose 1957 Princeton doctoral thesis first presented what has come to be called the 'many worlds' interpretation of quantum mechanics." [1] Later on, Dr. John Wheeler developed the theory further. Dr. Wheeler was the most famous astrophysicist in the U.S., an expert on the Theory of Relativity, and one of the leaders of the Manhattan project team that developed the plan for atomic bombs, as well as the team that built hydrogen bombs during World War II. Fifty years after that, the "many worlds" theory continues to attract generations of physicists who are devoted to the development of the theory. The renowned physics professor, David Deutsch, at Oxford University is representative of these physicists. Dr. Deutsch is "one of the world's leading theoretical physicists." [1] The Discover magazine had a special interview with Dr. Deutsch and published an article in September 2001, where Deutsch briefly explained the theory of "many worlds". Since the beginning of the 20th century, quantum physicists have been puzzled by some phenomena that seemed completely in conflict with the world of big physics according to Newton and Einstein. "On the quantum scale, objects seemed blurred and indistinct, as if created by a besotted god. A single particle occupies not just one position but exists here, there, and many places in between." [1] These phenomena are completely different from our experiences in daily life, and puzzled most physicists. Physicists have tried to explain these phenomena, but strictly speaking, none of these interpretations made sense at a mathematic level. It wasn't until the 1950's that the mystery was solved by the "Many Worlds Theory". Many researches have shown that each electron in the experiments "seems able to exist in many different places at once --- but only when no one is looking. As soon as a physicist tries to observe a particle, the particle somehow settles down into a single position, as if it knew it was being detected." [1] "To grapple with the contradictions, most physicists have chosen an easy way out: They restrict the validity of quantum theory to the subatomic world. But Deutsch argues that the theory's laws must hold at every level of reality. Because everything in the world, including ourselves, is made of these particles, and because quantum theory has proved infallible in every conceivable experiment, the same weird quantum rules must apply to us. We, too, must exist in many states at once, even if we don't realize it. There must be many late-rising David Deutsch's, earths, and entire universes. We live not in a single universe, says Deutsch, but in a vast and rich 'multiverse'." [1] "Under normal circumstances we never encounter the multiple realities of quantum mechanics. We certainly aren't aware of what our other selves are doing. Only in carefully controlled conditions, as in the two-slit experiment, do we get a hint of the existence of what Deutsch calls the multiverse." [1] Deutsch, as the master in the field of the theoretical physics, believes that there is no alternative way of looking at quantum mechanics. These experiments were built upon strict mathematic equations and repeatable experiments. At the end of the article, "Deutsch argues that physicists who use quantum mechanics in a utilitarian way--- and that means most physicists working in the field today--- suffer from a loss of nerve. They simply can't accept the strangeness of quantum reality. This is probably the first time in history he says, that physicists have refused to believe what their reigning theory says about the world. For Deutsch, this is like Galileo refusing to believe that earth orbits the sun and using the heliocentric model of the solar system only as a convenient way to predict the positions of stars and planets in the sky. Like modern physicists, who speak of photons as being both wave and particle, here and there at once, Galileo could have argued that earth is both moving and stationary at the same time and ridiculed impertinent graduate students for questioning what that could possibly mean." [1] Picture 1: The "many worlds" interpretation of quantum physics suggests that these students at Oxford, as well as the rest of us, have twin counterparts in a nearly infinite number of other universes. Picture 2: In Deutsch's view, every option we've ever had in life, including the choice to walk through a gate or to pass it by, has been taken by at least one of our shadow selves somewhere in the quantum multiverse. Reference: [1] DISCOVER Vol. 22 No. 9 (September 2001) http://www.discover.com/sept_01/featsecret.html

Welcome! I had plenty of health issues and started practicing Falun Dafa. I advice people to read the book Zhuan Falun, I find it unique: http://www.falundafa.org/eng/books.html Good luck! /Gauss

Before Falun Dafa I slept about 8 hrs per night. Now I sleep 4-5 hrs on weekdays and 5-6 hrs during weekends. I add some daytime naps sometimes.

As far as I understand it each school hs its own form of energy channel. I quote from Zhuan Falun(main book of Falun Dafa cultivation school) about the energy channels: http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/zfl_85.htm Heavenly Circuit () The Tao School teaches the great and small Heavenly Circuits, and we are going to explain what a Heavenly Circuit is. The Heavenly Circuit that we generally refer to is connecting the two energy channels of Renmai and Dumai. Such a Heavenly Circuit is a superficial Heavenly Circuit which does not account for anything but healing disease and keeping fit. This is called the Small Heavenly Circuit. Another Heavenly Circuit which is neither called the Small Heavenly Circuit nor the Great Heavenly Circuit is a form of Heavenly Circuit practised while sitting in meditation. It travels down in a circle inside one's body from the Niwan Point to Dantian (the Elixir Field), and moves up in a circle there as an interior circuit, which is the genuine Heavenly Circuit in the cultivation while sitting in meditation. After the formation of such a Heavenly Circuit, it will become a very powerful energy current, bringing all the channels to motion with one energy channel and opening up all other energy channels. The Tao School teaches the Heavenly Circuit while Buddhism does not. What does Buddhism teach then? When Sakyamuni taught his system of Dharma, he did not teach the practice of the exercise; he did not do that. However, his cultivation system also has its own form of cultivation evolution. How does the energy channels in Buddhism move? It starts to break through from the Baihui Point, and then it develops from the top of one's head down to the body in a spiral. In the end, it will bring all the channels to motion in this way. The central channels in Tantrism is also aimed at this goal. Some people have said that there is not a central channel. How then can Tantrism manage to cultivate the central channel? In fact, when all the channels of a human body are put together, they amount to no less than ten thousand in number just like blood vessels crisscrossing, but more than blood vessels in number. The space between the interior organs does not have blood vessels, but there are channels. They are connected from the top of one's head to every part of the body crisscrossing. They may not be straight initially, and will be opened up upon connecting with each other. Then, they will gradually be expanded, and slowly form a straight channel. This channel will be used as an axis that does self rotations to bring to motion several wheels of one's intention in level rotations, which also is aimed at opening up all the energy channels of the body. The cultivation of our Falun Dafa avoids using this method of one channel bringing all the channels to motion. We require that all the channels should be opened up in motion simultaneously from the very beginning. All at once, we cultivate on the very high level, avoiding the low-level stuff. If you wish to open up all the channels with one channel, your whole lifetime may not be enough to make it. Some people will have to cultivate for decades, and it is very difficult. A lot of cultivation systems believe that one lifetime will not be enough to make the cultivation. There are many people who cultivate the profound Great Laws and can extend their life span. Don't they believe in cultivating life as well? They can extend their life span to do the cultivation, and it will take quite a long period of time for them to do so. The Small Heavenly Circuit is basically aimed at healing disease and keeping fit while the Great Heavenly Circuit is the practice of the exercises, which means the real cultivation. The Great Heavenly Circuit the Tao School refers to does not come as violently as ours which opens up all the energy channels at once. The operation of the Great Heavenly Circuit in the Tao School is that of several channels which travel from the three Yin and three Yang of one's hands down to the feet, and to both legs, and all the way to the hair. They go all over the body once. This is considered to be the Great Heavenly Circuit in circulation. When the Great Heavenly Circuit is in motion, genuine cultivation will be brought into play. Therefore, some qigong masters do not teach the Great Heavenly Circuit, and what they teach is healing disease and keeping fit. Some people have also talked about the Great Heavenly Circuit, but they have not planted anything into your bodies. You can not open them up on your own. Not having been planted anything into your body, you will not be able to open them up with your intention. That is not as easy as talk! How could you open them up just like doing gymnastic exercises? Cultivation is one's own business, while the evolution of cultivation energy is done by one's master. Only when it is all planted into your body, can the interior "mechanism" play such a role.

Hi there! I believe this is not so easy to get rid of without any effort. I recommend you to read the book Zhuan Falun to understand these matters better. Book link: http://www.falundafa.org/eng/books.html You can try to recite the following words with belief when you are in trouble: "Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good, Falun Dafa is good." WISH YOU GOOD LUCK! /GAUSS