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Over to another extremely interesting matter. It is known since ancient time that the "Light" will first come from the North(many have said that meant Sweden) at Judgment Day, it is mentioned in many ancient western prophecies. To my knowledge there is just one city called Falun in the world, it is placed in Sweden - in the north of Europe: http://maps.google.se/maps?q=falun+map&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:sv-SE:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Falun,+Falu&gl=se&ei=m1rZTLyGDo3rObXOvLIJ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CB8Q8gEwAA If Falun Dafa is the way of the future mankind, would it not be interesting to investigate the local history and legends of the city of Falun and its name? What I found is astonishing: In the Nordic religion "Asatro"(which means "Asia belief" in English) - there is a "river called "Slidr" coming from the east to rectify all evil and Slidr means "God-Li-He" translated from the ancient Nordic language.... The Poetic Edda - the prophecy of Voluspa: 36. River falls east through venom dales with scissors and sword; Slídr is its name. The city of "Falun" in Sweden has a name which was originally derived from a local river also called the "Falu river" running through the city... See the resemblance with the river Slidr... The "yellow river" this Falu river is also called in ancient words and this river has given name to the city of Falun. The Falun emblem has a yellow center swastika and it is whirling like river water in the form of the swastika. Furthermore the famous wheel of the divine in the bible is said to make sounds like from water flowing... http://www.falundafa.org/intro/0-falun.htm That local Falu river in local tradition is said to "divide the city of Falun into a divine part and a horrid part"... It is said nothing can grow on the horrid side of the city(there was a mine on that side in old times) while the other side of the river is flourishing with nice houses, plants, flowers etc... Speaking about the judgment and good people being separated from wicked people at judgment. In fact the city of Falun has judgment included in the legend of its local Falu river....

If you want to discuss specific statements in the open you may want a specific thread? Here is the lobby section and probably it is not the right place. I can not offer you a response when I do not know which specific statement you refer to. PM me is a good idea for a start I find. If you are not happy with my response you can launch a thread and discuss openly. As a beginner I believe it is better to study the Fa more and be patient about the higher level understandings and not think too much about it now. In fact, there have been 18 years of higher and higher truths from Master Li as we approach the very end of the Fa-rectification phase. Therefore only very special people can enter genuine cultivation this late in phase one. I advice you to start out by studying all the lectures from the 90s and work your way up to 2010. I wish you good luck

Feel free to PM me and we can discuss it.

Welcome to the Forums! I wish you find your spiritual path. I find that Zhen-Shan-Ren(Truthfulness, Compassion, Forbearance) is good.

Welcome!

Welcome from Sweden!

Welcome! If you want concrete information about Qi Gong and its history etc I recommend you to read the book Zhuan Falun, the main scripture in Falun Dafa cultivation: http://www.falundafa.org/eng/books.html

Welcome! It seems like you have a difficult life. I will PM you some links and maybe your life can brighten up. After rainfall comes sunshine.

Remember, in Samsara you have a limited time in each step of the reincarnation loop. Ie being a deity for 500 years, being a rock for 10 000 years, being a pig for 3 years etc etc... It is said being a hungry ghost/spirit is terrible but also that time is limited, later one goes on in Samsara. Becoming an immortal requires that you reach at least the level of Arhat. That is really hard and requires a grueling round of cultivation. PS: A link to fabulous reincarnation stories here: http://www.pureinsight.org/taxonomy/term/9

Welcome! In my view you need theory about the paranormal and how to get control over yourself, PM me if interested and I can send you some stuff.

A joke is a joke.. My emotions count for nothing and have nothing to do with my true self. What matters is Dafa and if people can understand xinxing cultivation like some people obviously can do in here.

You are right of course. The principle is understood but it was a joke consciously looking to gain "De" from some users here... If someone does that I would say he is lacking compassion(Shan). We must try to help everyone, no matter which belief they hold.

You actually make a good point here. But I do think Levo has understood xinxing cultivation very well.

Actually, you got the fundamental principle of FD(xinxing) cultivation.. Just write a positive post about FD in here, take a harassment from the usual guys with a humble gratitude(in your heart) and by then you raised your realm and can sit longer in exercise 5 without pain... Good luck and thanks for your message!

If you are right about me doing badwill for Dafa etc with the prophecies etc I am very saddened by that. Maybe the silent people think differently? It is not always the loudest speakers who are the best people I find. I find prophecies very exciting and relevant to our current world in relationship to Dafa. If you don´t I am sorry. If someone never believed in prophecies or Gods before this thread started, maybe he will stay negative no matter what I say? In fact, there is a multidimensional cosmos proven by science, and prophets enterother dimensions to look into our dimension from that space-time. I accept it can be very hard to understand for someone not familiar with or interested in modern science at all. When you explain why Falun Dafa is bad with some objective reasoning I will be very glad to discuss the matter with you. We have had many users here repeating the same negative things over and over again about Dafa, Li Hongzhi etc. Saying someone is bad, stupid, obsessed etc is very easy. To argue well for that opinion is something very different and much harder. Those people who get "angry" and negative for no logical reasons, why are they so emotional about FD? Did they ever consider the true reason for those high emotions of theirs? Why can they not argue in a civilized manner? Why can the "angry" people not show the strengths of their own cultivation school instead of slanderring other schools? I do not want to do harm(produce karma) to anyone and never speak bad words about other schools. I have said it before, it is impossible to "recruit" people into FD cultivation. If you just perform the exercises and can not understand and act according to the "Fa", still you are no genuine cultivator at all. You can not buy into Dafa either. And there is no membership. You are on your own and consummation is your limit. Wish you all the best, and I hope you believe in prophecies because that is discussed in here.

My friend, you draw conclusions about religions and Falun Dafa based on using different words for similar things. Let us go through the facts and see what we find. Nobody wants to "scare" people but in Buddhism we have 18 levels of hell while in Christianity just one level of hell is mentioned. Which religion is more exact and scary? The choice to "scare" people is depending on the clergy of the religion. Buddhism has the most well defined concept of hells as I see it. All religions have hell very well defined as a form of retribution after death for generating lots of karma as a human being. "Shan" means the same thing whether it is Taoism, Buddhism or Falun Dafa. You love all people no matter how bad they are and you are always helpful to others, you must be a kind person. If you choose to call people with lots of karma "ignorant" or "evil" or "bad" is just a choice of words and does not matter. We live in a maze and hence ignorance is of course the root of all karma generating evil acts. There is no disagreement about that. If all people could see karma fly onto their bodies every time they did something bad nobody would do bad stuff anymore.. Being down here is very hard indeed. In all religions people face retribution if they have lots of karma and little virtue. An "evil" or "ignorant" or "bad" person in the universe is defined as someone with lots of karma and little virtue. Whoever has more karma has more debts and that person is considerred worse off by higher beings. Of course cultivators in FD feel sad when they see such a person being out of control. Being "wiped out" as you put it is something happening if one has lost all their virtue and is made up of just karma. Ie people who always do bad deeds, say bad words, harass people, slander Gods etc. No judgment(destruction as Buddhists call it) in Buddhism? I quote from Wikipedia: "The decline of Buddhism in the world, and its eventual re-establishment by Maitreya, are in keeping with the general shape of Buddhist cosmology. Like Hindus, Buddhists generally believe in a cycle of creation and destruction, of which the current epoch represents only the latest step. The historical Buddha Shakyamuni is only the latest in a series of Buddhas that stretches back into the past." Who is "Maitreya" or "The holy King of the Wheel" in Buddhism? Let us look at the Udumbara flower prophecy.

Of course FD preaches compassion to all people. Saying some people in this world are evil(mankind is sinful as Jesus called it) is not sensational news is it?... That is just a fact. That fact does not mean FD cultivators do not have compassion for these evil people. In FD it is extremely important not to hate anyone, instead "loving your enemy"(as Jesus put it) is what is demanded from all cultivators in FD. About being "wiped out", is it not said in religion that every evil person has to pay for his karma(sins) either in this life or after death(ie going to hell for karma elimination)? If a person has massive karma and no virtue he has nothing inside him which is in line with the universe and he is slated for disintegration after death. That is what is said in all orthodox religions and we do not oppose their views as far as I understand it. If Judgment arrives here one day as all religions prophesice, is it not so that every person will have their personal Judgment at that moment? If one is too bad one will be wiped out at that moment and it is just a consequence of the laws of the universe. A good person will make it without any problem. In fact, concerning these matters we do not oppose the endtime prophecies of orthodox religions. Are we not trying to warn people and try to make them pay attention to Zhen-Shan-Ren is good? Is it not compassionate? Evil people all have the chance to better themselves, it is up to them. What you say is that all religions are evil because they believe evil people will face retribution in this life or after death. As I see it retribution is a natural consequence of your wrongdoing. If someone gets dirty he needs to wash himself clean. You could say hell is a place where one is being washed clean. Then he gets another chance as a human being and the reincarnation loop is continued until he gets too bad or decides to cultivate up to at least Arhat level. As mentioned before, these are just my personal understandings at my current wisdom level. They have nothing to do with Falun Dafa.

Jetsun, regarding homosexuals and Falun Dafa we have been through that question numerous times here, no need for meaningless repetition(I repeat from our earlier discussion in this thread): I have said it before, a genuine Dafa cultivator always adheres to Zhen-Shan-Ren in everyday society. Ren includes tolerance towards all people. Shan means compassion to all people. Hence Falun Dafa cultivators respect ALL PEOPLE, no matter who they are or what they do in life, including homosexuals. That being said, in another dimension high-level cultivators can see that homosexual acts makes you accumulate karma. That action opposes the Yin-Yang characteristics of nature and hence a genuine cultivator avoids this act as he does not want to accumulate karma. Karma lowers your cultivation(and Ding) level. This is all very simple and common sense, follow the inherent characteristics of nature in cultivation and you will raise your level. I believe we can agree on one thing here, repeating things over and over again will serve no purpose at all for those of us doing it.

Found this one, it seems appropriate here : ABOUT THE TIME OF THE END, A BODY OF MEN WILL BE RAISED UP WHO WILL TURN THEIR ATTENTION TO THE PROPHECIES, AND INSIST UPON THEIR LITERAL INTERPRETATION. AMONGST MUCH CLAMOR AND OPPOSITION. SIR ISAAC NEWTON 1642-1727 I guess most people know about Newton, otherwise here is a summary of his profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton

You are welcome! Whichever "fog" you see me in, I promise you that "fog" is going to disappear from your eyes in a few years time. Remember being "smart" is considerred a negative trait in FD. Being "smart" or "sly" in modern society will make you do things that generate karma since you will get what belongs to others by being that way. Go with the flow of nature and all you should have will be yours and nothing else. About having an "agenda", again that belongs to being "smart" or in pursuit of something. Is it not a good thing to try and apply the ancient prophecies to the current world situation? Am I not merely repeating prophecies here and in some cases making some extremely simple conclusions from them? If they all point to Falun Dafa and Li Hongzhi, that is something that can not be coincidental and not my imagination, or is it? If someone finds this interesting and want to investigate further on their own I am more than happy. /Truth-Compassion-Forbearance is good!