Jetsun

I have been practising this method on and off for some time now going by the instructions given by Bill Bodri which you can buy from his website, or there are some basic instructions of the method here http://taoism.about.com/od/meditation/ht/White_Skeleton.htm . It basically consists of giving away your body, visualising your skeleton as white light, then imaging your bones turning to dust, which is the best method I have found to get to a somewhat empty mind and purifying the channels. But then I was reading 'The Anapa Chi Conversations of master Nan Huai-Chin and Peter Senge' and master Nan said: "In the White Skeleton meditation practice, the Buddha taught us to meditate that the skull is chopped off and placed upside down inside the cavity below the rib cage. If you can visualize that, for sure you won’t have high blood pressure." Which confuses me as I have not heard this aspect of the meditation in any of the instructions I have ever read of the method, does anyone here have any more information about where this aspect of visualising the head in the body comes in during the meditation or know of any instructions anywhere which includes this aspect?

Pretty interesting video, he talks about his life and about Taoism. What do you guys think? he comes across like he has a lot of enthusiasm and looks like he has a lot of power, yet it seems like he has a pretty big ego for someone who practices so much meditation and he is often out of shape. I guess you shouldn't judge Taoists though as they are meant to defy usual conventions. I do like his Water meditation and practice it a fair bit, yet I am not particularly drawn to him as a master or guru, I wonder if that creates a problem as people say that it is good to practice the methods of someone you want to emulate.

They estimate in peak flu season deaths by flu total 750, whereas Cronovirus deaths in April were around 15,000 per week in the US. So they estimate it is between 10-44 times more deadly than the flu. That is just deaths, also hospitalisations are much higher and long term effects are also more severe. Perhaps in the future if such a thing as herd immunity develops it might be comparable to the flu, but not at the moment, not by a long shot.

Yes second pandemic is the wave of stupidity, wave of inconsideration and selfishness, wave of conspiracy theories and that pandemic seems to be growing at a similar rate to the actual virus.

With respect I think you are incorrect on both points, he is grounded in Zen Buddhism, his main teacher was Arvis Joen Justi in the lineage of Taizan Maezumi Roshi and studied under many Zen teachers. In terms of bringing others to similar realisation I haven't found many people with a better record, there are dozens of people who publicly teach now who attribute their awakening to his teaching and influence, I could probably dig out a long list, and hundreds more who aren't public. I have personally been on three of his silent retreats and they are some of the most powerful things I have done in my life in my journey so far.

I don't know this isn't true, and can't find any evidence to the contrary, it's pretty consistent of you to suggest to people that they see you as a blonde woman when working spiritually, ie polarities reversed... Which is your own concept not found anywhere else in any other systems, completely your own invention.... and suggestion to others .

The whole fundamental premise of the energy work they do is based upon the idea that in the spiritual/energy/light realm that polarities are reversed. So men become women and visa versa, at least in perception. This is an idea completely unique to them, nobody sees things this way, out of thousands of seers, psychics Shamen and adepts who have navigated these realms and traditions who have mapped them none of them have confirmed that concept, at least none that I have ever found. It is something invented by them based upon a loose interpretation of a Christian Scripture. Not even the great Christian master's like Daskalos see things that way. So either everyone else who navigates these realms is wrong and they are right, or they have got the fundamental concept of their entire work wrong. When I tried it out myself it was suggested to me that this is the way it is before I could form any genuine perception, so they frame the experience for others based upon their own delusion rather than let it form naturally.

There are thousands of biographies and books you can read about the historical saints and sages through the ages, who explain their path and practices in some detail; some great adepts, Buddhists, Sufis, Hindus, Taoists... yet not a single one I have ever come across says they turn into a big tittied blonde woman when you connect with them spiritually 😂. Im into some out there things but this is some crazy shit right here.

Errr no, I have experienced both and they are world's apart. Jeff hugging you is more like being hugged by a predator, like Jimmy Saville, Amma on the other hand is unpolluted pure love.

The ego co-ops everything, including spiritual practices and experiences, it's a bit like the Borg. So most spiritual people are usually more egotistical than regular folk it is just more subtle and sophisticated form of egotism

In every age there are divine beings incarnating into human form, according to one such incarnation Meher Baba said there are five Avatars for every age, some remain hidden as that is the best way for them to complete their work, others do their work publicly. A few names include: Neem Keroli Baba Jesus Christ Meher Baba Mata Amritanandamayi Devi There are some in the world now you can go visit, yet if you do so the light of consciousness there is so strong that it will shine the light on all that which is unconscious and hidden within darkness and shame in you, bringing bit to the surface, which most people have no interest in confronting, so many people will run a mile if they ever met one possibility even try to kill them. So only people at a later stage of their incarnational journey would even be interested in spending time with such beings, or at least people who have run out of places to turn to try to avoid what is within them.

There are a cluster of people who spam every thread with their inane mind drivel, which is why I ended up not posting any more, if you ban them all you might get some decent discussion again here.

Not exactly impartial reporting, the first part of it accusers her of being obese which is ridiculous, she isn't obese at all, infact anyone can go watch her for 24 hour stretches without eating a mouthful. Most of the claims in Gail Treadwell's books have been countered by others who were there. I personally know quite a few people in Ammas inner circles and they have never witnessed anything like that. There were a few people who have accused Amma in the past, all so far have apologised years later saying it was their own inner resistance and ego coming out and projecting on the outside what they couldn't bare to see in themselves.

Try see a professional healer of body worker and see what they say or recommend. All our bodies are bound up with emotional/karmic imprints which twist us up to different degrees, Western medicine is unlikely to help much with this unless you need surgery of some kind.

I'm saying that the Republican Party have sold their soul , they have given up even any attempt at maintaining any principal for a bit of power Also that there is so little room for nuiance that if anyone stands up for basic morality a large proportion of people immediately label them leftist.

So is anyone who believes in common decency and some level of morality a member of "the left" now? I thought those values are meant to be the the backbone of the Republican Party? Looks like everything has gone backwards or upside down

I have an opinion and a slant, my opinion is you have made a professional Twitter Troll your President :) . As much as I enjoyed him taking down all the empty suits and lackeys they lined up from the establishment to try to make President the guy is nuts. I thought i'd would be fun to see him mix things up but in reality all I see from him is more of the same in the sense that he is putting into power the exact same people making the same rich people richer, despite saying he didn't want more wars he has hired people like warmonger Bolton to stir up trouble and a bunch of corporate lobbyists in key positions. I live in the UK, you can insult our leaders as much as you like, I won't be personally insulted by it .There are certain ones I support and vote for more than others but I have enough flexibility to be able to call them out on it when they mess up or act in ways I find despicable, i'm not blindly loyal no matter what they do which oddly seems to be the case with Trump, he can literally do anything and he won't lose support, its more like a cult with blind allegiance. Also with his recent attacks it isn't just Omar he is attacking, he is attacking the others who are born in the USA, I don;t see how the Republican Party can stand by and not call him out on this, it is so polarized that there are literally no moral standards left

A man has free speech, while the leader of the country has responsibilities which mean he shouldn't go around spouting anything which comes into his head because there are serious consequences. If you don't understand that subtlety then maybe the dementia is creeping in? If Omar is illegal then deport her, if not then it's just plain racism. I have no horse in this race as I don't live in the US, so have no preference for any political side. I have watched Trump most his life and used to quite like him on the Apprentice, but electing him as your leader I found hilarious as he is more or less just a traditional con man, a kind of guy you wouldn't buy a car from, but now he's being openly racist (and rational people are defending him no matter what he does) it becomes more worrying.

So you guys have no problem with Trump being openly racist ? "Send them back" is a phrase with a racist history and racist connotations, there is not even any attempt to cover it up now, it's a deliberate strategy. Of course such rhetoric is divisive , this isn't some liberal media conspiracy dividing your country, your President is plainly and openly courting it.

Didn't SOTG just invent his whole system himself? Does he have a human teacher or is it learned from books ?

So what is the alternative to May? There is nobody, Boris or Gove , complete imbeciles with absolute zero electibility. What baffles me is that there is a part of the Tory party who have been campaigning on this for generations, but now they are in the position they have been working for they have absolutely no idea what to do... pathetic

The worst thing which could come out of this is if we end up with a trade deal with the USA which opens us up to the absolute horrors of American agriculture and food. Chlorinated chicken, hormone injected beef, GM crops, all at cut price , the only down side is the long term health and welfare of the future of all our future generations. An abundance of unnatural chemicals and hormones pumped into our bloodstreams in the name of freedom. After which the American pharmaceutical companies will start pimping their drugs to us at inflated prices in the name of health promotion. I just pray that we are entrenched enough in the EU that we can can be saved from such a situation.

You can't possibly get any more establishment than Jacob Reece-Mog. Boris, Gove, Farage are all firmly entrenched in the establishment, you can't possibly believe that Leave is led by anti establishment figures. Also I very much doubt there would be any trouble if we remained, London voted to stay as well as most big urban areas, it's all the small remote rural areas who voted leave, mostly old peoplle. What are they going to smash up apart from their local bus stop?

The person with the greatest vitality/longevity is probably the Dalai Lama, who is 83 but still traveling the world teaching and full of energy, his American doctors say he has the constitution of a man half his age. I am sure his Buddhist practice helps but if you look at his routine he gets up every morning and goes on a treadmill, before having a bowl of cornflakes! I think it is likely if you asked him though he would say his secret is warm-heartedness. But no matter what practice you do genetics are always going to play a major part in your health, health practices and stress reduction can influence genetic expression to some extent but never fully , you are always going to have the genetic history of your two family lineages to contend with. If your ancestors lived through a famine no doubt that "memory" is going to be encoded in your system in some way influencing your health.

I have studied the Fourth Way pretty extensively and Ouspensky's in Search of the Miraculous is a wonderful book which documents a period of the work of Gurdjieff. I would recommend reading Gurdjieff's Meetings With Remarkable Men next. The teachings Ousepensky offers are only partial though in the sense he provides a lot of the mental or intellectual side of things, whereas the more complete Fourth Way involves working on all centres at once, so a critical aspect is the movements or dances, music, as well as all the work of self observation and remembering and conscious suffering. Group work is also essential but the modern Fourth Way groups are very variable in quality, some of which have gone off the deep end, so I'd be careful. If you really want to go into the teachings it involves reading Gurdjieff's Beelzebub's Tales, which is some undertaking.