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Why are you interested in Huashan Taoist Mudra? Read this one http://www.naturalhealthweb.com/articles/Rinaldini1.html The mudra is potent from my view but the finger tips of the left hand should show to the dantien as the the Shou Yin is define a space. Play around by facing the "beak" to the left and and then back. As well take attention to have the thumb in the crease of the beginning of the ring finger. Also dont place it but hover it in front of the dantien. Try by touching the skin and having it with some space in front of it. Observe your conciousness and attentionlevel. and als Rara ask something similar http://thetaobums.com/topic/29855-taoist-hand-signs-mudra/

Actually the approach of a Qigong Practioner is first to learn to have awareness and then use itl to see the changes. The change of flows and the conciousness. Actually seeing the difference and their relationship. One actually read the flow of Qi it creates when doing the mudras. The Shou Yin will start to talk which one depending on the degree to understand. Same is for the form one does. Actually one can bound an idea and anchor it with a hand sign but if one has no idea and observe while doing a hand sign its true spontaneus nature is shown without the interfering of the ideas of the mind. Because of this the telling beforehand of an information will giving one an expectation which can imitate the original but still it is an imitation. Therefor the hidden school forbid and remain silent to give out information to not disturb the process of undisturbed development of not only the sign and superficial use - but the whole package behind the teaching with the chance to add a new facet to the interlectuell knowledge, which would be an extra reward for the lineage itself to speed up the process for further generation. It is difficult for a teacher of this kind to guide someone fast and far without giving out spoilers and the greatest antagoinst would be someone who tell you what will happen which may destroy the cultivation or slow it down. Lets take for an example a movie you know the story then you would not as suprised as when you not know the story. The storyteller has to have skill to tell you as much to caught your awareness and as little to suprise you and even trick you to believe you know what will happen only to suprise you even more with what comes. The first is to know if energy is running and filling the body enought that the finger stretch themselves like a plant does as the whole body raise. After that by taking back the stretch the flow is enhanced making the function obvious as well the movement range it can restrict and by doing movement with this hand sign can open up a hidden restriction which when not resticted adds a greater space. Difference is as well with closed eyes and with open eyes.

1. Lately I came across of an old book, something old for me as it was the first english book Lighthing of the Eye of Dragon by Baolin Wu I ordered and after more a decade I came back to read it on a kindle about the ethics which resonate with me and let me think about the "sincere heart" you mention and being a "good and moral person" in the Jing Dong Gong . About two people which get their power by effort and the other kind drawing power from the ethics and to be "far away from fame" as "This sort of poweroriented thinking created Ba Qi (stopped Qi) in the body, which clouds the Original Energy and thereby disrupts the abillity to harmonize with nature" (p.198) So I get interested to know what you mean by a "sincere heart", how you cultivated it so far to draw the interest of immortals.

It just curiosity nothing else. Some would like to go with the decision of the mods as I do and see what happen afterwards which is neither wanting nor neither ignoring.

True words. As long Magus of Java exist new people will step up and repeat the questions over and over again as long there are not answers that can satisfy them, either to give up or to find another way. People aint warriors to begin with as a shaman told me: "A spirtual Warrior accept a Yes as a Yes and a No as No and when he mean Yes or No then it is as it is" Lately I am confronted with ethics and morality by lineageholder BaoLin Wu from the White Cloud Monastry who wrote in the last chapter in the Feng Shui Book about ethics affect practise and the concept of Ba Qi/stopped Qi and while Robert Peng wrote about Real Effort in his book Master Key. Both things you have mentioned before and this book elaborate them by telling the lifestories. Since a problem can not be solved on the same level then what has to be done then? We pray for wisdom to solve the question. One tells them over and over again to let them alone and in the years....have it worked? An offical video on youtube that the school is closed would work when it comes directly from the mouth of John Chang as a farewell.

You can make one so a Mo Pai Subforum is done. Then doing observervation if it is appropiate to maintain it. Actually the mods know that it will be busy work and they have to decide to take the trouble to handle flame war discussion. Also discussion summary of core ideas and arguments should be put into fixed topic which the mod lock so people who want to discuss have to read it first so they not repeat themselves. As well other people do not want read 48 pages and more to filter out what is said... and this is a bunch of people. The systematic would be only as statement in the summary as categorizing Mo Pai, Jim, Kostas, Magus of Java said and if there are statements from other lineages like "lineage xy hold this idea" The mod who choose it has to keep the summary neutral and filtering out personal attacks, non topic related, runts and jokes. A third fixed topic would be releated to the summary. The topic serves the opinion of the formulation of the facts, you can see it as proofreading. The Mo Pai Forum will be heated and the summary is serving as the calm pole to keep things objective. You can consider it an experiment. Else suggestion of a psychology expert who is good in group dynamics is recommended as advisor. The question what is the goal of the Mo Pai Forum and what advantages and learning can we have?

No Vitalii, some teachers do not want to be mentioned due to their tradtions. Some teachers go so far to order you to come and not telling their name, this has to be respected so far and one join these sects if one wants to find out more under all risk to receive false information or correct information. It is already good enough that one tell some stuff without revealing points. Other people are more wise and put the whole stuff into "as if I do not know" but so you dont have a chance to find something. I myself can not tell some stuff, due to personal wishes or to that schools policy and I hold to that but I try to tell as much there is room left.

For "these" videos one has to do them over and over again but it is not something you really want to do. This would be evolution. I can tell some general things: XingYi might be MA but the form itself serves of cultivation of Wu Xing, the five elemental phases and the cultivation of the five organs related to them. Correct practise strengthen them, incorrect practise damage them. One of the states XingYi can reach is a neutral state where force distrubition is in all direction is the same. While beside of this also is clever martial arts to disrupt balance from others by having a shadow follow the primary attack. You can say it is auxilary practise. As well pre heaven energy cultivation can be done by the usage of Wu Xing organs which is used in Longmen Pai by doing Wu Xing Gong and gathering their energy in dantien while also balancing the organs in same time. Longmen Pai uses Yin Xian Fa has the method which resemble alot the cultivation method of Taoist Yoga described by Charles Luk which not going in Detail is taking energy from the outside and starting direclty from upper bypassing the foundation of building up generative force. The same practise is running by changing the balance of post heaven more the pre heaven in the end. But actually those who actually succeed in Yin Xian Fa have access to the highest expression of this form, the access of cosmic fire which resemble Agni in indian system which comes from the void. But first to work is only the eight direction and the little amount taking in from pre heaven. To this meditation of Wu Xing Gong is as well in sitting and in standing, in standing it is after Ping Heng Gong which is cultivation using of trees for specifc organ energy a balance and purifying is needed after taking it in. Energy has to be digested. Depending on daytime its either pre heaven or post heaven. But even taking pre heaven doesnt work so well, as first damage has to be repaired first. When full health is regained pre heaven is gathering effective but in meantime one do lots of ...abuse and also age is going on with the time of cultivation. You can say XingYi is an option to help the WuXing Organs. The work on the body and force is to minimize the needed energy. Doing well it is transalte into the motions in daily live, the things on carry , every step. But mostly it is post heaven work. Tai Chi origin belongs to a more secret school which needs a Neikung core to work while it gets to state of a fairly good martial art. But because of the limitation and the intent behind of the movements the things it can do is also limited. But despite being a martial art it refines the body and prepare it for inner processes. Ken who is a member here and has the longmenpai blogspot told about the advantage a Tai Chi practioner has still until today I wait that the Meridian Tai Chi is done and puplical introduced. Also the same secret school has form which undoubtly so simple and open up inner internal meridians one even doubt that it could be part of inner cultivation as it is so.....external and crude that I avoid to practise it but give clear difference unlike any other practise which give me a hint how much an energetic transmission with the right form can do. So even things are very doubtful in many cases one have to look again and again. The same is done when one do ones repetive forms of the lineages one join. Even if one think it right as one think one has to look again and again for a difference in it. In all practise I did when I progress and look back I see how many mistake it made and underestimating practises. Where ever the practise comes from on need to find out what the usage is and what the one who present is, internal specialist, a master, lineageholder, advance practioner,engineer or a material provider. A wrong practise can be practise right and a right practise can be practised wrong.

The things are in relationship and so seperation isnt something to aim for. While it not actively affect Alchemy it sure do it passiv. Weights can be used to build up strength but as well can be used as a trigger to gain greater balance and reduce the usage of energy in daily life by optimizing movement in dealing with changes so it not interfere with Alchemy. One can also use weight to make unecessary movement in Qigong Form obvious and also help to increase breathing under increae of stress burden. Doing wrong build unnecessary muscle substance that interfere coordination of antagonist and shifting balance on the subconcious balance and using extra tension which in optimal state not occur which cause a waste of energy. One use pre heaven and post heaven in every activity. One part of cultivation is to build more post heaven to reduce the use of pre heaven. The more one strain the more pre heaven is used. Alchemy starts by cultivate pre heaven but it not prevent one spend more. It would be good to cultvate pre and post heaven alike and well spending of this energy, beside of purifying, syncronisation and concentration of these energies. The problem in cultivation energy is about loss one has by daily life about how much one spend and a method to gain the cultivation energy. It belongs to regulations of small and very mundane things like having enough good sleep, not overeating, or exercise after heavy meals or taking showers. Cultivation success is the sum of the things one do and not do and how it is done.

When you massage the eyebrows, ears and the other places. make the force come from the shoulders as the gently creates a vibration in respiratory system which is like in Pangu Shen Sheng Moving Form and decreasing sand like blockages.

The outer energyfield is charged with many things which can additon either add or decrease the impact on it. One option is to using a bath with sun burned sea salt and Backing Soda and showering using Steel Soap. This decrease the substance which may affect the Aura. The other thing is to use muscle test and not thinking but looking on the shampoo. Else one change the energy signature of the shampoo, dont use it or change ones reaction to the product. Aura is normal recharged by good sleep, rest, things that reduce stress and calm and as well by good breathing, fresh air., sunlight, healthy people, friendly plants and bringing in fragrant oils. When you can feel the energyfield you can see where is more or less resistance in aura. Vibrate this place with palm as a meaning of slight movement and increase movement with the lessening of the resistance. Especially in front of " holes" energy tend to amass like a crater. Use the hands to collapse this structure as it is just sand on a beach. After that see if there is something feeling sticky. Grap it and throw it either into fire, use you intent to turn it to light. Other things is to use your palms on your bed and try to feel if there is this sticky energy in your bed and push it from the bed. Mostly it is head, hands, feet , and the reproduction organs where one lay at night, and if one has good sense also can tell which organ is strongly under detoxification. Also common sense is just to change the bed sheets. Actually the practise of Stillnessmovement Qigong reduce this sort of secretion of energy dirt like more is recycled. You have to remember that the Qi one use to project to others is in a beginner actually dirty and sick qi and one can harm others with it. This why a certain amount of time is set for practise like the Stillnessmovement having a loop created so on purify ones own energy either by recycling, dissolving, unharming or dispose. Easiest way is still "to avoid" and to "get rid off". Other things is to look into memory about a person or a thing and watch how the energyfield change and one just to react different by using intent. The person may change or impression of this person or the impression you cause to this person change. Working with the energetics of enviroment has more Feng Shui characteristics and the relationship of choice and decision and can be huge effort to change one personal enviroment beside the internal enviroment.

There are subtle refinement one can care for. First is that one group the whole ear and not only a part of it. Second is that one breath as well into lower abdomen, chest and shoulders. Third one do breath in this manner and posture in and out squat a bit down, with each breath cycle lower. Fourth reverse the arm posture, left over right + right above left. Fifth rub and massage the ears while holding this posture to activate the body which is actually from another series for unswitching the body, which include the posture but for the eyebrows and then one finger on below the lips and one finger above the lips massaging this points.(De-Switch) Sixth is something BaoLin Wu is teaching about the 9 Solar Qigong is to face the sun The first exercise is simple massage the ears warm and one can take this advice to account as the benifits are for having a good temperature regulation and also enhance of intuition,listening. The explaination is as follow: Holding the whole ear is holding the whole body. The exercise is similar to the Wayne Cook exercise which serves as balancing of the respiratory hemispheres and it is useful to add it if one can perfom it correctly. This exercise is to breath careful and not with force as it open up some significant space. Because of this one can damage internal for a small amount for a great gain and small issues are showing around in decades as stacked problem- so one has to be careful. This why one breath in full erect posture and go slowly down ( which take quite some time) but remember not to do it all at once as one reduce so unneccessary tension so it can overwhelm the nervous system, so especially older people have to be observant and take small steps. If each stage (height of the squat) the breath is free one can do a full squat at once. Take this in mind to not worn out by this exercise so one can enjoy this also in thirty years without causing "other problems" The third one is : While it is to follow the instruction as said one has to keep in mind that a posture that can be reversed has to keep balanced by doing both. As for breathing if one only do with for example the left arm inside, then it cause a shifting of having the right chest more open. If one keeps that for years the right side being more open then left and this cause its own problems having 24/7 imbalanced breathing. So third is for checking the breathing and both side has to be same. Also it is for the hemispheres like folding hands, like left thumb over right and reverse.

Oh yes and huge amount. Karma is something people take very serious to get rid off. If they get a chance of that it might be possible despite of the huge possibility that it wont work. As people like to know their future when you can read their past. If you not fear to do mistakes, make debts, being harrased and being secure then you would not worry that much to seek such advantage.

Provide the links please BKA.

So many pages to tell that various martial arts styles tell to soften up the pelvis and the only thing that I found valuable is to sit on a tennis ball and able to sit comfortable on it.

Sifu Lomax, The wording is not well chosen by GrandP. As I understand GrandP, he wants to say one use common sense and using appropiate remedy for the individual case. He use hypothetical case of a person have a car accident and doing the proper common sense of calling an ambulance is right. Also he wants to know is how a Medical Qigong Practioner in Projection would act in an emergency situation and how he explain the authority an profession and the crow they neither heard qualifcation of. For example how would you act and what would you explain to the surrounding persons? What you say to the concious person who had the accident. What you do if he refuse to get a projection? Also GrandP. Even the Qigong Projector is able to use projection by using arms and hands. One do not need it. Those who are not authorized will not go out and heal other people. A practitioner develops a Qi Field. The presence of such person harmonize the enviroment. He only need use helping hand doing common practise in case of emergency like first aid and pain decrease and also syncronicity appears that this person can be helped. A Qigong pratitioner has clearing own sick qi and other disharmonic frequency so that if in presence of a another person not add sick qi to the him but because of potential balancing, harmonic energy and frequency is. The Qigong is giving support by being there and buying time. He helps also that invading forces not harm the person and also linking and activating sort of 6 sense to other persons to cause syncronicity that this person can be helped. One do not really see that the cultivation efforts of this practitioner has helped the victim. At other times a practitioner is on place and hindering an accident to happen. This happens at sometimes to me shift to another state and doing unconciousness movement. In one case a 3 metre fall with head on edge and I could catch him with ease as if he was a pillow and he weights 90 kilos. Try to catch 90 kilos.... In another case I was pulling someone away then I wanted to talk something then I forgot. A hard package with tins was falling from 8 meters or so and if I had not pull him away.... well a goner for sure as it was where he stands before. But who talks about such things... just coincidence. The aspirin was. Also I keep things so: When the standard do not work then one offer the special abillity. Humans are beside of being of lights self responsible beings and solve things with the minimum of higher potential abillity by using external tools. I had a case wher person had accident and crush into packages. He had pain and it not stopped and his uncle came and ask me to help. I told him to use pain killers. Well he came back later and he says that it not works. Gave him a healing, pain gone after 10 mins after 1 min treatment and well days after he says that his finger seem broken but strangely moveable but not pain. Most people I ask for treatment has heard or were open minded because the standard procedure which is more common sense not helped. Other case child was on a shopping cart falling down, I asked if I should something. Say no and I keep going. At another time prompt to talk about Qigong and he reveals to be a talent practitioner of Qigong from Vietnam who is also a boss of restaurant who learns from medical qigong practitioner who can stop bleeding. A qigong pratitioner learns what to do and where to be and when at a moment. Also what to say or not to say. I tell you world is full strange things.

Actually I want some information from Yu Xian Pai. As I read it is Ma Yu one of Wang Chongyang disciple. So it is a subsect of Quanzhen Pai.

Dreambliss, you may just go the seminar that sound good to you and ask them what they do before your participate then you can decide before you join. Also BaguaKickAss is organize a meeting of Taobums and you may see if you find out if it fits you.

They are less active as they are in hibernation to handle the cold. Actually I feel to let them have their peace if it is not an evergreen tree. Tree and animal judge human by their vibration. I reach point I just dont need to do active something. A foreign tree very fast figure out and welcome like "one of us" and some get excited and "talk" very much. You can not imagine how a Chalanchoe is like Alex Foley.

Actually indoor teaching means you have good foundation and level in your art and exercised techniques to a certain degree. When one get indoor teachings one get refinement other students dont know and can be proven as effective when testing one skills to others and one has an advantage the other students can not figure out even if they try to imitate you. The other thing is that in training on develop faster and connect things one would not know if one is not told. The things is when one is share a secret it works immeadtely but may be a bit instable works and fails where one has to exercise it to make it useable all the time. But one know that is works.

The advices are not followed. They are there to be considered when you do a decision and as well to make your aware that there are people who think in that way and act in that way. You have to proof yourself it is useful to you at the moment or any other moment. The advices are there to reflect on them and to see if there is relationship. Actually it is unkind in the way you state your opinion and as well less wise. You might be learned but in this way not well brought. It would have been enough to say that you are "only interested in the philosphy aspect of the Taoism and would like to discuss it without involve of the other aspects like religion or inner alchemy." Short, simple and neutral. Calling people "massive liars, idiots or deluded fools under placebos" is making people question you if you acutually understand Taoism and not just have reading it. Taoism is expected to be executed in speech, manner and action as it teaches a way to interact with the universe- which means with your enviroment. If Lao Tzu says everyone is your teacher. Then all has to be respected to have something to reflect on to learn. The way the things teach are by good example, by bad example, by confusion and by unclear situation. But well people a different when it comes to make them feel respected. One has to be flexible as water is. As well people who are teachers here are not to teach taoist philosophie but taoist tradition. Which involves Qigong, Neikung, Breathing, Wushu, Kung Fu, Magic and Religion and Customs, Medicine, Nutrition and as well superstituion and very little philosphy as well, those wrote the classics know better which we do have subforums to discuss here. As well the comparism of different schools and teachings to see difference and similarities.

Rookie these gates are Naruto only.

Skydog, Your other lineage has specific energy signature which make one more aware to energyfields and despite of being very stable, the practise of this lineage makes one sensitve to fields which contradict this energyfield. Since it has restriction it is more bound to less subtle energy and the place of choice to exercise is bound to Qifield similar to it and the field one build itself or the teacher can. The stability of this lineage energy field one carries as inheritance is low and needs a considerate time of one decade before it is considered safe to practise in outer enviroment which is the reason to be able to maintain the energy purity. It is that the energyfield of a practitioner of your main school has the uncomfortable abillity to absorb energy from surrounding and it can be uncomfortable to absorb energy from practitioner from other lineages and disturbing the inheritance. A tree is a practitioner of Qigong and seen as this for this lineage only one tree exist. The practise of Stillnessmovement Qigong has not such restriction and the Shielding practise helps one to discern the energy one want to take and one wants to keep out. A zone to decide and have choice. As well the practise itself is throwing out disturbing energy. I reach a point where I feel the internal process of opening of inner merdian which seem to me more finer and more like a net and vast in space and now being able to touch and get access to the blockage in them. Everthing before seem in comparism like the scratching the surface and thinking the scratch being deep. Tons of work is revealing like having light reveal what is hidden in darkness. Tree helps to build enough pressure to open as well the night practise when one sleeps. The longer of practise of SM reduce the accumulation of the things categorize as Sick Qi and also the dispose and transformation of it increase. Especially I feel and observe a stronger transformation with more practise. People start to get touchy when you are around and as they touch their energy body are more syncronized than before. The practise of SM is so by beingness bringing wholeness to the enviroment and order to energy structure.