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Actually you may read through this forum and see which one resonates with your expectation. For most people have said about what exist and how they expirience and rate it. Usually people would recommend Qigong they practise as they practise it because they think it is one of the best or by the information is said about practise. Choose one which fits your ethics and agenda, in methods, one you respect, one that may give you the results you seek, and you have fun with. Since you exercise Horsestance and do Mediation, seek one that make use of the things you already exercise.

Drink the whole bowl of the poison when taken. Else where is the fun?

Bax44, do you have already a Qigong in mind you wanted to test?

That is liking, lusting and not loving. Love is much like you having affection for your parents only that you seem care for this person more. Benifits are put aside. When you care for a person, no time feels wasted. as one stays in the presence of this person. Neither one tries to change this person when it seems to not fit ones expectation. Love is not a head thing to be understand of. You have to be in the body and not only in your brain. You have to feel what you touch and listen what you touch. Else you distance yourself to a tiny spot in the body. If you keep in this way you distance yourself to yourself and so to others and the other people can sense it. As above I said about distance.You can sell yourself well as in the beginning people mostly see the worth in appearance and tricked by clothing, habitual courtesey and smile, learned friendlieness by your background, the money and archivement - you impress them. Later when the person stays longer the facade can disguise what is inside - well mostly people would project their expectation on a person and so the disguise can be maintained longer. But well, the more a person wants to know who you are by having real interest in you the more fast they will perceive the unmatching of.... something is off - something mechanical. Playful contact are such thing. If one do not have contact it is like touch something without awareness. Aware contact at the first sight, aware contact at kissing, aware contact while cuddling, aware contact while holding hands. One takes time, remember the feeling then looking at the today more clearly. As well if you project on women how women has to be how can you expirience something while you planning in your head how they have to be. You are thinking and not feeling at that moment and that becomes habitual. To love someone doesnt mean to get together with this person. I still love someone until today. That is already for 20 years. She did only have a neutral feeling torwards me and I wish her really to find someone as she still has nobody. Love goes beyond ownership. It is about stopping to own, trade, calculate and seeking advantages. Also talking about power in the same line with love and dividing it into woman and man? How can you let go of yourself when you expect women holds all the power It is a together. Try to reduce worry which includes planning and security and measurments strategy, tactics. You repeatly use things associated with the mind a lot, head, brain, money. Think a bit how often you use the word "want" and "weak". "Effiancy": I pay for, I suppose, porn, I can't score in a brothel, weak, I want , classy girl Efficiancy is a way to put pressure on oneself to prove ones worth. Ask yourself: Was it demanded in your whole life until now to be the best or better? Do you remember a time where you could just do failures? When does it started that you had to be the best or better? Think of person who gave you rewards, think of person who praised you, think of person who sanction you and/ or scold you for your action and non action. Think and feel how it is when you are not efficient? Do you understand now how much efficiancy affects your behaviour? Was is "efficient" to not feel?

The foundation for each school differ in the length in time but well 120 days are more safe to be sure than 100 days if one is on its own..... and do practise correctly with necessary quality - else even with full time celibacy one reach no foundation even as monastry practitioner for the whole life. As I understand is that even if one do not celibate after the time of successfully building the foundation, the built up and rendering of the energy body is not weakend. Actually one do know this when one go on with practise that one not "run short of energy". An example is that one learns to work with energy and project energy and guide it in the body, but for some reason, the energy stops. One lost everthing one built up and is foggy in mind, unable to project energy and the practise itself is as if one start with less than zero because of damage. It is then wise to have a teacher in such case. When foundation is strong something like this not happen easily. One of the things I have been told from one of my teachers is after mastering the foundation in his school with a preparation of 10 years for 2hours per day + extra time the exercisetime is cut down as well all other practises substitute by one practise and 20 mins per day. The mastering of this foundation requires the celibacy for this period under supervision and the forbiddance to learn and practise other Neikung (the Neikung start with the first day so waiting 10 years...) , but after mastering the foundation one is allowed to learn whatever one want as this foundation can not easily be broken or disturbed. Also not many graduates come from this school. I hope one of my friends can reach this in 2 years. I aplogize I can not name this teacher and school.

There is no simple answer for your simple question, so I advice you to read it, even it is many pages as it is direct expirience of what is happening from their individual standpoint by challenging the 100 days from the member here in Taobums. I was teached personally that traditionaly100 days of celibacy is used in the practise of Qigong to establish a foundation in the Qigong that ask for celibacy. As it contain energies for accumulation which seem to be lost by non celibacy - or get interupted. The time of 100 days is depending on the individual and some need more and less because those from the past have expirienced this with their art and pass their observation over with the help of those who developed abillity to perceive the process. So actually mostly only teachers can say if one has passed this 100 days as it depends on the foundation the teachers want to see by his tradition. Also some teachers infuse one with energy and it is would be a waste of his cultivated energy, who can get very mad since for boosting the practitioner they had invest hours and days. For people who not cultivate the answers are far spreading...... from better emotion, confidence, selfesteem, relationship with the other gender, health, mood, energy levels by having 100 days as a choosen set time frame for observation.

You have to add Michael Lomax and Stillness Movement to this as he also offer "Distance Learning Courses" from time to time with a Neigong sort which is easy to do as well travel at times to the places where many people are awaiting for a seminar. It is not much about theory here in this Lineage but unfolding results by practise. The results are "Listening" (creating of syncronicity and getting answers and inspiration by in my -own word - "know what one need and to be there where one is needed") and "Intent"(like putting a command and let things manifest to the degree on allow, the strength of the intent and the energy one cultivates) "raise of energy frequency" and the expansion of the energy field which covering heaven and earth. (this gives one the abillity to communicate with beings with higher frequeny as the more apart the frequency the more difficult it seems to communicate. Actually the listening getting more accurate for non Seers, Seers may getting access to more beings) One receive the structuring of the LDT aka "creating a Lower DanTien" and the "free flow of the Energy Gates" so that one can pull huge amount without stucking. With a structured Dantien one has the huge advantage to not follow the natural process, which one can take the long way to create a structured Dantien and then things may start when this structure is created. In this lineage the structure is fast establised because of the abillity of the teacher to work from non dimensional where linearity like time and space are mostly lessend. It is possible to project energy for healing which is something you can search in the forum yourself. The goal is to know who one is and what to do in this life. Therefore all latent abillity are boosted from this Neigong. Not only supernatural, but also seen as ordinary skills like better art, music creation, working with plants and animals etc so one crystallize what one can do good and so one have it more clear what to do with ones life. It is a Neigong to choose if one just have a simple standing and sitting and if one is not fan of doing so much form - well one can do GoT - Gift of Tao and other auxilary practise but that is like the "Cherry on the Ice Cream" - and later results in 24/7 cultivation. Also if one dislike visualisation and mantras... One has it just like empty mind meditation first starting with hands on the lower abdomen and later if one progress just one the knees or every other position, sitting, standing, walking, running, lying but doing the same "mediation". Also if one seek healing in different layers at the same times with removing of the things that cause the illness sympthoms and for healing others in this manner. This Neigong mostly not work with energy which affects the physical directly like telekinesis or create energy which can harm others or things, but it affect overall abillity of the martial art as well because the intent that is developed the applied technique is stronger. Strong Spirit. Because of the cultivation of the more subtle -higher energies one has much freedom in food, sexual activity and other things which are restricted by other schools. Reaching a time of 1 hour is optimal in exercise, spread over the day. For those who wants become healer are said to have 3 hours per day. And those who can maintain the state can also practise while doing other things like watching TV or typing on a PC or playing console games etc which practise in "real time in life" so some of the practioner faring well with even less than 20 mins per day and even irregulary practise - but still it is the goal to maintain the state longer while having the most instaneous saturation of practise, the more efficient one practise which unfortunaly gives a fast natural ending. But for beginners to start to see if this Neigong is matching with ones taste and expectation one has to practise around 40 minutes (as one do not reach saturation) for 100 days as tradition. In real as a beginner my saturation point was some hours. This saturation point is also lengthen when one receive the projection from the teachers of the lineage and by doing group meditation and if one can not hold the projection from the teacher anymore for the time being. Also such seminar doesnt cost much, and if one has visit a Seminar once one just need to practise. Only longer not exercising may make the structured Lower Dantien dissipate. Its like a crop field, if one takes care of it doesnt become a Dschungel. If it has become a Dschungle one has the time to get rid of it, and boy I have once in my life time to get rid only of a small place with wilderness overtooking of a garden - hell of work to unroot. So it is a once in a lifetime investion and if one wants to deepen ones practise one comes repeatly and sometimes get useful auxilary practise to speed up process that are manifesting. Other lineages will drag one for many books, dvds, and learning many many techniques and theory and visit for seminar to get different and new techniques. In the Stillnessmovement one get mosty always the same but the teacher grows, the participant grow and the group expirience getting greater, so a revisit give one a boost. For the other teachers... well they have no distance course and some cost really a bunch with much travel to get part each time. But they can not be underestimated, their lineages are legit and powerful in their own kind. Such in the Stillnessmovement Qigong one do respect other lineages by "Other Lineage have different strength or powers".

You may read this which actually is the thread to discuss this. http://thetaobums.com/topic/22912-semen-retention-100-days-and-my-experiences/ Here you can ask the participating member to answer your questions.

Elaborate this statement please.

I dont know. Only MJJBecker has expirience in Stillnessmovement Qigong and Mo Pai to be able to compare to a degree.Again he can only tell on his level of perception and understanding. Non the less I dont know about another Mo Pai Practioner who exercise both. So I dont think that a masterteacher from only a school can talk properly when he do not know the other system. It is only possible if the teachers are join forces and show each other their system and discuss their theories. I told once that Michael Lomax and John Chang should meet each other. Only the lineage politics about secrecy etc has to be regulated in some kind of way and the willingness to work on greater scale. I dont know if lineages do bargaining. I only know they may fuse and they may split and some lineages also carry the package from die out as main lineage in their lineage. Indeed it is true that different Cultivationenergy are expirienced also different, I do feel that a Qigong Set produce a different sort of cultivationenergy with different abillities. It is very possible from my view that the Yin Chi is different, and I would like to say it is more raw than subtle in case of the theory. Still it fits that Sky is Yang and Earth is Yin. Actually Michael Lomax told : "In order to move physical objects, a much lower level of energy is utillized than the type used for healing." I like to change low and high with raw(less subtle) and subtle. It is to my understanding that the more raw a energy is - the more it underly linear principles: (like the need of the grounding as I understand) While the subtle one doesnt care about such things (like the case being off ground in plane) as things get more non linear and gain in potential. As Michael Lomax said: "Qi is potentially instantaneous with no limitation on amplitude" So Yin Chi is different for someone for the subtle type and the one with the less subtle type practitioner. Actually it seems to me that the subtle type can gain a bit of the less subtle type as by product. While the less subtle type main Yin Chi is raw compared to the subtle but gain little subtle Yin Chi. The subtle one may more effective on cancer and other difficult illness while the raw one affect even physical matter but seem to have difficulty. So the energy of the subtle type when projected isnt very well as direct projection to cause damage by energy but can support other energy as carrier . Imagine a blastomere. Imagine the air one use to blow is harmless if a average person use it. But if putting a small projectile dart in then it is turned into a weapon. This is how I see how it improves the martial art energy technical. Some energy moves slow..... so when you put it on a vehicle sort of energy .... then impossible things may get possible. This is my opinion on Yin and Yang.

Was just a comment about Panda. Keep up your Flying Phoenix Practise!

Oh no, where is Deci Belle then?

Thank you for your research. It will provide some information which are rarely seen. Either good or for bad.

I have post some post before names of 4 still living lineageholder, there seem to be many and not a single overboss. The name of the teacher from Bao Lin Wu is Du Xinlin. He was also teacher of Wang Xiangzhai.

Get rid of the sitting in this case. Indeed, His teachers seem also not show the maintainance of staying young looking. I forgot what it was - the balance was about the cycle where males have 8 years up to 64 and the female up to 49. But well who can say that from the other teachers of other lineages even the over hundred also not look so fit. Who can say for sure? I also asked a 40 years old one who was very fit,strong looking. "Why your hairs are already gray by doing so much cultivation" - he said nothing.

He claim it. Even perfect without any fingernails, bones or anything left.

Wang Liping has this sitting method to regain a balance boys have with 16 and girls with 14. It includes as well the Ping Heng Gong, exericises with tree and these are don standing in front of tree and as well. Xing Gong/ Walking Exercises. One of my teachers hold much about exercise with trees. (It is to exercise 2 hours in this school, but no more word here about this school) He told me that if the body is repaired the tree Qi will add to the lifeforce. Since one work with Qi which correspondent with the five Zhang Fu, the later use of the Wu Xing Gong, Five Changing Phase Exercise will circulate and gather into the Dan and as well balance out the Zhang Fu. From my own opinion I think sitting and standing has to be balanced and movements should also be included. But well who wants to pay someone 30 month for the practise alone and another 10 Month of if one talk about income alone, one has to think that most of income is for taxes and other life sustained activities. To think one has to put 20 Years of work to go to one seminar is awful thought, so considering is much appreciate. Else some people can buy with that amount one pair of shoes...... the world is odd.....

To stay on topic it is to mention that the teacher also has Longmenpai in Form of Energetics passed down. Talking about Quanzhen and Longmenpai doesnt help to explain this part as one get .... the lineage passed down - energetic information based. This is passed down for Wu Wei practise and not for You Wei which require much theory and techniques as they are linear.

Ah then it is understandable. Mostly those who are willing to pay and go are those from US State, Germany and the United Kingdom. Longmen Pai is Quanzhen. Mention of Longmen, Yuxian, Nanwu, Suishan, Yushan, Huashan and Qingqing are all legal as they together form the Quanzhen. Longmenpai is the biggest and most popular sect and has also many lineageholder. Known are :Wang Liping and his teachers, :Yuanming Zhang :Bao Lin Wu :Zhongxian Wu each of them comes with very different technique set. Beside a Steven Liu also wrote a book which add to the confusion. Bao Lin Wu wrote that the nine solar palace was lost to Qiu Chuji as he wasnt good at it and get serious problems but was very good in the full lotus exercise so it get not mentioned until retrieved from the emissary of the Purple Cloud Monastry who is the teacher from Bao Lin Wu who claim to witness the Rainbowbody his teacher attain. Talking about Quanzhen is difficult as already 18 Generation are passed for the Longmen Pai and so many changes are add and things get refined as well of reformation like Wu Liu Pai. Who is right can only be withness when one go personally to it. I for my part can only say that Wang Liping holds power. If it leads to immortality I dont know, but some feats are sure he is able to do.

GoT is not based on Hunyuan Qigong. There are people who are in the Stillnessmovement Lineage and practise the Hunyuan Tai Chi and its Qigong by Master Feng Zhigang. These people may give one a better understanding why they do so. Edit: Both Master Feng Zhiganh and Master Wang Jueming are students from Grandmaster Hu Yaozhen.

Oh oh oh, from my perspective you overlooked something. From what you said and what I noticed is that you have the focus on the physical form rather then put the Stillness Movement and the resulting energy and flow which I noticed you said :"I need to loosen up when I do GOT". How to explain it.... what energetical it look like. Here I go. I had a dangerous situation where 10 Kilo cartons where falling from a top of 3metres on Friday. It was a funny but dangerous situation I took one carton at the side but because the stuff above where stacked bad three cartons fall from the top towards my head. The first one I use right Tan Sau, palm facing to ceiling, with a hip turning to the left to hit it into a whole in the stack preventing about five items to move in addition. The second one I used a a Palm strike of the right arm with the finger pointing the left by just turning the Tan Sau to the left and turning right with the hip. But I couldnt see that a third carton was hide behind and was in my blind spot and I move my left arm up like a thrust in the air. It hits me at the forearm and the weight pushed forward to my head but had a a feeling that the package move to the side causing me to turn it to a Bong Sau. The problem was it because I did a Bong Sau the Package spinned and it hit from above on my forearm and this cause a about 5 cm movement downwards in my shoulder joint while force was pushed to my left leg. Well it hurt. You may ask why I dont just side step or move elsewhere. I have on my back a cupboard and I stand in a small way which was 1m broad and in the way where I could move backwhere two package on the floor and the front was a bit more narrow. The rest of the day I could move almost normal. When I did GoT I start to do as always, big movements. But then the left arm who was hit made smaller movements while right still do its generous big movement. So I just let the left arm move in his small movement capacity and the right hand as big as always. With time the capacity increased in left arm and I gained a 10% back to 90%. This is how energy works. The arm floats because of the energy and the force one need is less. In your case Harmonious you have to move as your body is allowing You do not need a warm up or loosen up. The state you are is the real state your energybody is - showing on the physical body. If exercise daily as I find one will find that one is as loosen as one as end the practise before before one start GoT. The GoT is bringing out the unnecessary movements which are stored up in the body. This impulse are those which hindering the martial application of the art one choose and may have built up by practising the choosen Martial Art. This are the impulse that make the opponent instinctive react. So on Master Class, the master may not get faster but the opponent seem to not react to the attack. When this impulse are expressed they are not activated anymore and so the direction of the force in a martial arts application is more clear making ones Art more clear and so one improve. So the arms may move impaired in different motion range or different speed with jerking or unusual twist of the body. With time it looks more and symmetric and with greater range as the unnecessary movments are gone.

It is a level I only heard of. In this one is able to be the other being and seeing and feeling and expirience from their side. This is known to western magick. One can be the eagle, one can be the wolf. As I read and I have been told that animals feel so well in whatever they do, they enjoy to run, they enjoy to fly. To be this - one has to be selfaware and to the point the barrier of Illusion between the things can be off for a time. Which is easier if one is the one who wants to expirience the other. To make the other feel the same, one has to be far in development and can do this and introduce the same state by "will". Something like this is beyond "telepathy" It is a long journey.

It is about Quantity of a specific kind of Energy. Some are not produced in large amount in short time but build up over longer time and accumulation. So as the amount is little and the time to gather takes its effort it is consider a "Lost". Remember that energy is not energy but differs in frequency. The capacity the human unit can hold and the abillity to process energy from the Infinite Flow is for some kind of energy very little. So the ancients found that celibacy is the best solution arcording their understanding and expirience - or to limit the coitus. Others still want to do it but cultivate at the same time so they to bend the rules. If others have better solution : Lucky them, as they were not. It seems that specific spiritual" goals needs this energy and so having energy running into "8th- 13 th Chakra" (which even the books not speak of when esoteric teaching considering underground, hidden or secret only having 7 Main Chakra and rarely talk about a 8th one. The work on the 7 Main seem more important than the higher centeres as the lower seem to need development. It is important to see when this book came out first) is "lost" then it seems the energy should have a different purpose in the 1-7 Chakra from this systems view. Also some teachers say it is funny to talk about the mens little fluid as it has little sexual energy compared to what is in the whole body, concentrated yes.

Compassion alone as everthing alone doesnt help if it is not incredible high cultivated. It is part of the "foundation" which is needed. It is a state of being of reduced stress so one can do more than for oneself. People under stress do have little compassion, Logical when under stress one is selfoccupied in dealing with ones own problems. Ask people, they feel disturbed or angry, when they help they do this of circumstances, because of duty pity or believe and not because of compassion. So having compassion then ones own energy also run more abudant and this boost serious energetic practise. Having compassion as a state of being also natural opens the energy body in a natural way. Some may need longer than others. How long can ones maintain compassion as part of ones beingness? How stable is ones compassion in front of disturbances? Burst of compassion doesnt disturb negative beings, they can endure, they use it against you by creating situation to challenge by abusing ones compassion. But a state of compassion is suffocation as throwing a fish on land. And if intense then it is like throwing a fish into fire. While the entitiy can overshadow someone, one can overlight and cast the shadow away. But well it is rare. So lets mix and develop different things at the same time, good nutrition, good breathing, good sleeping, good emotional state, good relationship,good energy practise, and so on. I want to say a piece should not be mistaken as the whole picture. It may look very important but it is only an aspect.

First meditation cause a change in the general production of brainwaves. The nervous system is because of the unusal activity also overstimulated. It seems to me that is too much to follow the general shedule. So you may take a day off and exercise one day. If this not work two days off and one day work to regenerate and build up the resilence. You can still later add the amount of time. You can go and drink a warm tea, choclate drink or else for the time your would exercise on the free day and relax, no meditation or something watch the surroundings stuff. Hold the tea between your hands to reduce stress and put it on the lower abdomen when you not take a sip, just take care you not put something too hot into the cup. The cup should be so big that you can hold it with two hands. In general you have to need to exercise more common sense and being more observant about your body's(buddies ) needs as you let it go so far to feel singe in your brain. It is good you are obidient and dilligent doing your energy work, still one has to take care of oneself and asking the methods advanced practioner who had dealed with the same situation or the teacher who is now the head of the school. Also consider other possible source which can cause it. At times, it was something very insignificant, something new. Actually if you do Prana Healing, you may have scanned yourself? Whenever you use a different conciousness state, then the memory you gained by the activity can mostly only recalled in that state or a similar one. This is as I assume is also responsible for the difficulty to recall dreams the more one is awake and the easier while awakening. Actually I can recall this dream memory when I drift away with my mind. The alpha state is something which is predominant in children and depending on circumstance beta state, the awakening state should been predominant. This is needed to do the daily work abillities like concentration of the mind and memory. Because of this Alpha state in young people, intensive meditation may lead one easier to a state of Theta or between into Delta. But the problem is the abillity to shift and maintain conciousness between the states. So when falling back from Theta to Beta one has little memory. Also one disturb the standard development into Beta. When one has strong Beta one can recall it. A thing to consider to see is if one need glasses or if the eyesight has weakend. Stuff can be remembered because something has been seen clear. The less detail one has seen the greater the mind is filling the gaps. If there is something has to much gaps, then it is considered unimportant and so deleted. Therefore one has to check if one still has interest in the things one give the awareness. Meditation can lead to uninterest to mundane stuff, sex, social activity or talking(beta state), actually things that require beta. Take Care.