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Interesting, the shaking is coming sometimes as circle-walking...with music like this, for example... or like this http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/axismundimusic

"You don't have to be good..." ; ) I love her

Beautiful, exquisitely described!

It's Ok, freefrom. The Bushman/seiki-jutsu way works for me. Kunlun, not. And it's not the ego fight (I'm going through intense waves of fear/bliss with the Shaking/Seiki and I keep riding the horse, so...) Ahhhh! The music: definitely. Spirited, wild, soulful music helps a LOT. (Some spontaneous throat singing is coming along with the exquisite movements, in the last days...delicious ...and heart-breaking...) let's keep having a good time playing with our toys ; )

"...surrender and love. All real teachers seem to hold it as important and a key" That is my experience and understanding. Thank you!

I'm so glad to hear about the opening of the heart: as far as I know,only Bradford Keeney, Chunyi Lin and Ken Cohen have stressed this as the key point. The fishiness could be my projection, but I have to say I have tried - and practiced many approaches - and this is the first one - I bought the book, went to a workshop with a Kunlun certified practitioner and tried by myself - that evoked in me a feeling of "not this", even certain repulsion... (it could be projection, karmic thing, whatever..) But it's not only the siddhi thing...the fur for the practice? the fatal atraction to trees/fences...? come on... Definitely, not my cup of tea. Anyway, I'm glad that it works for you. I appreciate and resonate with your heartful answer.

It doesn't matter if the photos are "real" or photoshopped: the fact of putting this kind of material as self-promotion - "sold by the siddhi", so to speak - automatically makes the Kunlun thing appear very, very fishy... "Yes, qigong can cultivate powers: Invisibility - that means going unnoticed in crowd; Astral travel - knowing that the Real Self is everywhere; Levitation - taking yourself lightly." John Blofeld (quoted in The Way of Qigong, by Kennneth Cohen)

Passion and compassion, holding and letting go ~ This ache in your heart is holy. Accept it as the rise of intimacy With life's secret ways. ...The Radiance Sutras Lorin Roche

Fascinating article about the chinese female shamans...just delivered I'll never forget the faces of all of us, men, when our qigong teacher announced:"Well, boys, now we are going to build in us a energetic uterus..." http://www.suppressedhistories.net/articles2/wu.html

By the way, that reminds me of one of the best books about shamanism I've read, a splendid corrective and beyond: "...Tedlock shows how vital it is that we come to a deeper and more sympathetic understanding—and joining—of both the feminine and masculine sacred pathways. The opening paragraph recounts the unearthing of bones in the 60,000-year-old grave of an Ice Age shaman found in the Pavlov Hills of the Czech Republic. Skeletal analysis later reveals that this shaman is, remarkably, a woman. By the book’s final pages, Tedlock has stayed the course of reclaiming the feminine in religion and medicine, comparing the interpersonal orientation of shamanic training in the feminine tradition with the heroic orientation of training in the masculine tradition. She makes it clear that only a shamanism that recognizes the all-pervasive and interconnective life force can facilitate the bridging of feminine and masculine." http://www.noetic.org/library/book-reviews/woman-shamans-body/

This is a gathering of Lovers. In this gathering there is no high, no low, no smart, no ignorant, no special assembly, no grand discourse, no proper schooling required. There is no master, no disciple. This gathering is more like a drunken party, full of tricksters, fools, mad men and mad women. This is a gathering of Lovers *** Outside ideas of right doing And wrong doing, There is a field. I'll meet you there. *** Whenever Beauty looks, Love is also there; Whenever beauty shows a rosy cheek Love lights Her fire from that flame. When beauty dwells in the dark folds of night Love comes and finds a heart entangled in tresses. Beauty and Love are as body and soul. Beauty is the mine, Love is the diamond. They have together since the beginning of time- Side by side, step by step.

"Real joy is uncaused."

"Nature is longing for us to become conscious' Yeah, it would be big fun to have a shamanic taoist party: wild laughter, loving absurdity...

I'd recite the tantric mantra for the "ma" plant - "Bhava na sana hridayam/May this medicine be a blessing for my heart"....and all of us could joyfully surrender to a lovely, achingly beautiful dialogue (feeding the gods with beauty, as Martin Prechtel says the Mayan way is...) Reading your heartful words has ignited a breeze of delight and joy, opening my heart, my body shaking with loving, wild qi... That would be a beautiful, auspicious meeting...! ; )

"The survival of the most poetic beings...?" ; ) Natural complexity is sexy... http://www.futureprimitive.org/2010/07/richard-doyle-ecstasy-of-language/

I like this explanation of wu wei no "spiritual bullshit" "Not doing anything to my experience is the most compassionate and loving thing I could do to myself. And if I see that I am meddling with my experience, I cease and desist." -A.H. Almaas

Fascinating interview with Ron Wheelock, ayahuasquero living in Iquitos... http://www.realitysandwich.com/wheelock_interview

The Wild Redeemer "People who ingest the wild, whether plants or landscapes, do something civilized people never do, they take inside themselves the wildness of the world; they eat the Wild Redeemer. In that moment something unique happens, some invisible thing enters inside them. And when that happens everything changes. They become aware that there are intelligences in this world far older than the human and that the human and the older intelligences of the world are intended to make contact" Stephen Harrod Buhner The cornerstone of indigenous mind/heart: Reverence. Attuning to that feeling will deepen any experience with the plants...reverence and love, two names for a mysterious, complex, magnificent universe of the Heart...

Entering in relationships with the teacher plants: respect, appreciation. They are a sacrament, a medicine. A very good idea: practising your favourite qigong, praying, or meditating before ingesting the Gaian sacrament... "The mushrooms have power because they are the flesh of God. And those that believe are healed. Those that do not believe are not healed.(...) I take Little-One-Who-Spring-Forth (Teonanacatl:Flesh of the Gods) and I see God. I see him sprout from the earth. He grows and grows, big as a tree, as a mountain. His face is placid, beautiful, serene as in the temples. At other times, God is not like a man: he is the Book. A Book that is born from the earth, a sacred Book whose birth makes the world shake. It is the Book of God that speaks to me in order for me to speak. It counsels me, it teaches me, it tells me what I have to say to men, to the sick, to life. The Book appears and I learn new words...." "My life", Maria Sabina (the mazatec shamaness of the "santos niños/holy children" - the mushrooms: Teonanacatl "flesh of the gods", called that way in a spirit of reverence and affection) http://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520239531 &&&&&&&& "It is paradoxical that the rediscovery of such chemicals should have related their effects to madness and pejoratively called them drugs, when the shamans who used them spoke of them as medicines and said from their experience that the metamorphosis they produced put one into communication with the spirit.(...) The Indians do not call the mushrooms of light mushrooms, they call them the holy ones. For the shamaness, the experience they produce is synonymous with language, with communication, on behalf of her people, with the supernatural forces of the universe; with plenitude and joyfulness; with perception, insight, and knowledge. It is as if one were born again; therefore their patroness is the Goddess of Birth, the Goddess of Creation. (...) 'With prayers we will get rid of it all. With the prayers of the ancients. We will clean ourselves, we will purify ourselves with clear water, we will wash our intestines where they are infected. That sicknesses of the body be gotten rid of. Sicknesses of the atmosphere. Bad air. That they be gotten rid of, that they be removed. That the wind carry them away. For this is the doctor. For this is the plant. For this is the sorcerer of the light of day. For this is the remedy. For this is the medicine woman, the woman doctor who resolves all classes of problems in order to rid us of them with her prayers. We are going with well-being, without difficulty, to implore, to beg, to supplicate. Well being for all the babies and the creatures. We are going to beg, to implore for them, to beseech for their well-being and their studies, that they live, that they grow, that they sprout. That freshness come, tenderness, shoots, joy. That we be blessed, all of us.' " http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/munn.htm

Great interview with scholar and teacher Ken Cohen: inusual words in qigong discussions (at least for me) "Maybe we are in a position now to take qigong to a higher level (...) my question is: why are there so few references to love,while in other healing traditions - including native american - there's a recognition that love is a spiritual power, a force that can be developed in oneself, that can be invoked for healing another person, that it is one of the qualities that makes us a whole human being, that we need love just as we need sunlight, just as we need to live with courage and humility, with humor, with dignity and honor, with strength and purpose... so, love is kind of more on the surface and mentioned more directly in other ancient healing traditions... I'm thinking also about the wonderful study that Richard Katz did - at that time he was teacher at Harvard -. He went to live among the San - the so-called Bushmen of South Africa -, and he and a team of other researchers went looking at what distinguished the 85% healers in San society from the aproximately 15% of the culture that did not practice healing. Here you are in a culture where 85% of the population practiced fully the various healing rituals, the ways of absorbing and projecting the lifeforce. One of the things that the researchers found - and I think of this in terms of ouer conversation about love - is that the non healers were less imaginative and less emotional..in other words, imagination and emotion - I would even say love - are part of a driving force behind the spiritual power...but, for that very reason, let me say that it becomes all more important in dealing with such an extraordinary power, to have the rsponsibility to use it wisely..because we all know thatlove can be misinterpreted, misused, that people can use what appears to be love to gain influence or control over others..that the stronger the power, the more soul-searching we have to use to make sure that we are aplying this power correctly and ethically...I'm not talking about rules and regulations, but deep loking and listening within..." Ken Cohen http://www.blogtalkradio.com/qigongmasters/2009/03/17/interview-with-jim-macritchie-the-founder-of-the-n

Thank you for your responses, A loving gassho ; )