fatherpaul

having reflected all day on this thing called willpower, i find it of no use.

actually i find the question of willpower to be a facinating one, what is willpower? concentrated desire? thought? spirit? hmmmm. i will reflect on this today, as i have nothing else to do. good day all.

i see you have returned where have you been?

only to return again

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! this will lead you nowhere

sean freeform wayfarer there i have said three nice things peace

yes

HAHAHAHAHAafterlifeHAHAHAHAbeforelifeHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!! who looks for a bed?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA "Highest Master" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

grok

before all forms came the primal unity this body is it's offspring sages speak of the "source of all things", saying all things spring from this source then return to it. there is no "source " there is no "all things" there is not even nothingness. the primal unity is aware of this. i speak too much. yet one more thing seeing the way is the dawning living the way is the practice.

dude

until one knows oneself who is it that is doing these forms, alchemy, martial arts, what ever! this is why i say the dawning comes before the practice. know thyself. peace and happy pancakes, paul

how do i begin i stumbled on this site by accident on my way to who knows where i was impressed by the seriousness and the sincerity of most here for some reason discourse seemed appropriate that said what i have to bring to the table is of no consiquence, no help, no new "knowledge" nothing to gain. we all want something, this is the beginning of human sorrow we all need very little, food, shelter and clothing. yet we all feel as if something is lacking inside. this is the beginning of seeking. seeking in itself is not wrong or right, actually it has no value. we find "paths" and "practices" galore and if they bore us or don't meet our expectations we abandon them and take on others, all with the promise, that this is the true one. what i have said so far is simple, easy to understand and not obscure. yet this can be misunderstood, and i tell you, it is not my problem. "timeless is that which grasps, deathless is that which sees into" this was stated by a sage of old did he "know" the way of the Tao? I dont know, yet in these words a certain resonance is sounded, but only if i, a living human being, give it life as i read it. to me it is just words the truth of the matter cannot be spoken, given or recieved. am i just a pretender as cat suspects? or do i know something. i know nothing for there is nothing to know so perhaps she is right

when awareness becomes aware of it self it is the the sun at dawn

i refuse to go there end of my post.

as the title of this post said, i was replying to freeform taomeow, you have a special voice you are a good "parent of all children of the world" as any good parent would be I have the distinct honor and pleasure to have fathered 4 beautiful young men they have taught me much. peace, paul

a very intelligent and well thought out reply i must insist however, that the practice comes after the dawning and not before, it is what it is, not because i say so, just because it is.

i will say this that all the tai chi masters of old before they assumed even the most basic form knew themselves completely, inside and out. they were in the state of total awareness BEFORE they discovered the moves, the forms, the practices that others try to mirror, but can never achieve. this is because, the so called enlightened mind can draw from itself, any form movement or talent that it needs, having done that, it returns to rest. a rest that is as quiet as a massive lake on a still day.

i reply to you in a new thread called: reply to freeform

this is a facinating subject it seems as if the instinct of puting things in there proper place has always been with this one. when there is a sense of order and centeredness within oneself it seems to relate to the potential orderlyness of the enviorment. thus in the mere cleaning of the home, orderlyness comes about. perhaps i am not being clear. paul

there is a flower that grows only in the dark

your "thinking" is the mind game i merely point this out. i will say no more on this thread.