fatherpaul

if you still think of enlightenment as a thing to be attained you can name it anything but the ending of ignorance is not the beginning of enlightenment, there is no such thing.

if so i have no use for you if not, the crossing is easy without an obstacle

forgive my intrusion but there is no elightenment only the ending of ignorance in the tao there is no room for striving meditation, breathing, forms, all will help keep the body healthy, but will never bring elightenment. evolution, if thats what you want to call it, is merely the endless creativity of a playful void. peace, paul p.s. nice little story a Zen master comes upon a student sitting in meditation, " why do you meditate?" he asks, "to become a bhudda" the monk answers whereupon the master picks up a rock and begins to polish it. "why are you polishing the rock?" asks the monk. "to make a mirror" replies the master. "but sir, no amount of polishing can turn a rock into a mirror!" the student exclaims. " and no amount of sitting in meditation will make you a bhudda" the master states.

"be what you is, not what you is not, for those who is what they is, is the happiest lot." mr. wizard to tutor the turtle in a 1970's kids cartoon. ( i dont know which one!, look it up!)

thank you

forgive me im new here but where in the tao is there room for conflict?

no i am a man who lives on the other side of the river