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For Chinese, the Year of the Horse means a good harvest year. Second to the dog in earliest domestication, both were eaten, sacrificed, and idolized into straw dogs and wooden horses. The horses great utility in warfare is second to none in the ancient world and one needs understand that to understand the fear imposed by the Mongols on horseback is unsurpassed... Their natural beauty, movement, strength, raw talent and playfulness makes the elegance, power and recalcitrance an animal worthy of bowing to... and riding on top like riding a cloud...

In winter time, the flowers, grass, bushes, and trees drive their energy into the ground....

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If one has to explain 'creative' and 'satire'.... then it has all lost its punch... simply explain on as you wish...

This reminds me of the satirist poet Brown who when tested by Dr. Fell to translate Martial, quickly penned the following: I do not love thee, Dr Fell, The reason why I cannot tell; But this I know, and know full well, I do not love thee, Dr Fell. http://wonderingminstrels.blogspot.com/2001/08/i-do-not-love-thee-dr-fell-tom-brown.html In this thread instance, I think the equivalent is easily seen by some posts as: I do not love thee, Deci Belle, The reason why I cannot tell; But this I know, and know full well, I do not love thee, Deci Belle.

"the more I see of men the better I like dogs" -- origin is difficult to determine as so many have quoted it... but the earliest seems to be Seneca.

Lin Yutang's Translation: http://terebess.hu/english/chuang.html or http://oaks.nvg.org/sa3ra11.html Burton's Translation: http://terebess.hu/english/chuangtzu.html

Its a dead end topic for me if it is all about a text or two... and nothing prior is reliable. To me, there are many dots to connect but not if we're stuck in a certain period and treat it one dimensionally. I can't ignore related issues, even if they are beyond the senses. It would be like trying to argue Wu Wei is a philosophy and ignoring the more primordial, energetic or spiritual aspect. But one can't get there if they don't step outside the box which contains them in the physical presence dependent on text as the final authority.

I guess we disagree. IMO, the Zhou idea of Tian is not worth discussing... I gave two examples which are in ancient texts though. But I see most ancient cosmologies don't have Dao as the cosmic ancestor. So any archtypes found in archaeology prior are just speculation because the actual words were not written down yet? They couldn't figure out which bone to write on and which graphic would be understood by all later generations... Only once we have the words of LZ do we have valid theories? (Rhetorical). We'll just differ on this. I accept that you wrote something according to your objectives. You can judge how decent it is towards the goal and end results you wanted.

Ah... Love and Hate... those two tormentors No treatment of the topic should ignore the Roman poet, Catullus, and his poem # 85: Odi et amo. quare id faciam, fortasse requiris? nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior. Landor writes one of the better poetic translations: "I love and hate. Ah! Never ask why so! I hate and Love... and that is all I know. I see 'tis folly, but I feel 'tis woe." Ah... to be free of such folly and woe... I ask thee... please let me know ...

A few thoughts but some of them may just be re-hash of others: 1. First principle is simple: There is no substitute for exercise... the beauty in exercise is that it can cover a multitude of sins (of eating)... and smart exercise combined with smart eating is 100 fold better than just good eating. Those who just reduce calories to lose weight simply look smaller but they still look like they have never gotten out of a chair to walk. In terms of self-confidence, a little shape (muscle) goes an incredible way for most. It's effect on metabolism is another reason why eating less is simply less sense. Find the level of exercise which matches their best chances. Meet the person where they are, and that includes their mental and physical abilities... if she doesn't really like exercise it is going to be a stretch to expect intense workouts, stairs, etc... and for someone who does not have muscles from even the most mundane sports or exercise then avoid too challenging exercise. Stairs is to be avoided for someone without decent leg strength from basic sports/exercise. JMO. 2. Here is the part that dieters do not want to hear: It is not a diet, it is a life change... We live in an age of quick fixes, and I am going to give one guaranteed one at the end, but without the life change, nothing changes. Metabolism will only slow down with age and age catches up with all of us. Any exercise routine is better than nothing. 3. Choose 5 items to completely give up for life. If one is truly disciplined then raise that to 10 items. A few suggestions: Butter, sour cream, whole milk (go skim), pasta (ah... yes, I know she is part Italian), cheese, pork, chicken, any oil other than oil olive, salad dressings (but keep eating salads), pizza (please stop this!), etc. While this is meant 'for life', one can bring some back when there is a few years of stable, good eating but by then they usually don't want them or they all taste too 'fatty'. Yes, stop going to the junk food places but I am talking about a decision to stop what you buy on a routine basis and put in the frig. 4. Add in 5 items which you research and consider beneficial for you. A positive experience is enhanced by participating in the decision making of what you eat... simply being told what to eat may not be as effective as participating in the decisions... 5. The quick-fix... HCG. If the quality is good, then it is guaranteed to take 10-20 lbs off her. About 1/2 pound a day for 21 day minimum. It can be done up to 40 days but based on her current weight I don't see the need as the 3 weeks after the drops one continues to lose weight. The really interesting effect of HCG is on resetting the hypothalamus. This helps to stop the past signals prodding us to eat certain foods and stick to the routine we are creating anew.

Yes, in a word, archaeology... It surprises me how much those who want to stick to a historical record ignore this or don't study more of what we know from it. I prefer to consider this as far as possible. It really doesn't hold that much weight to say a word first appeared here or there... Qigong as a word didn't appear until the modern age but it would be quite silly to claim it did not pre-date the actual word. Another example might be that "Dao" was made reference to in different words. One doesn't have to say "Dao" to mean what it means or what was understood. The Tai Yi Sheng Shui has a much more complete cosmology than the DDJ and fills in lots of blanks. There were other concepts of a cosmic ancestor; LZ chose to use the word Dao where others spoke differently. Heng as in Hengxian is another interesting use of the cosmic ancestor... Just as there are many dualistic archetypes which pre-date the actual word "Taiji" doesn't mean that ancients did not create the concept before the word. The problem is that Dao pre-dates language and is thus can be found outside of language. But I understand that some want to only look at text for their answers. Of course this ignores another fundamental angle important at this website and that is the experiential aspect. In fact, I would argue that this was the original awareness before text... There are many facets to consider but some may not have this or even want to consider how that reveals something beyond the text. I understand that LZ and ZZ is where all roads need to lead for your study, but I don't hold that as my centrist pivot. So we are likely to simply not agree as our reference and starting points differ.

One needs to get beyond and prior to written 'text'... there is so much going on prior to written text... I don't always agree with Derek Lin but I do agree with his points in here: http://www.taoism.net/ikuantao/origin/home.htm "Many people interested in the Tao are still under the impression that Lao Tzu founded Taoism about 2,500 years ago. There is some truth to this, as long as we are only talking about philosophical Taoism (Dao Jia) or religious Taoism (Dao Jiao). However, the one thing that most people do not realize is that both variants of Taoism came from a much older tradition, known to the Chinese simply as the Tao. It is not possible for Lao Tzu to be the founder of this ancient tradition for the simple reason that it began at least 2,300 years before his time." "Essentially, the Tao Te Ching was written as a collection of teachings from the original form of Taoism. Lao Tzu presented these teachings in an organized and accessible format. His work revitalized and energized Tao cultivation, so its importance cannot be overlooked. At the same time, it's also important for us to recognize that Lao Tzu was not the one who "invented" concepts like wu wei,p'u, and ziran. Nor was he the first to talk about the significance of silence, harmony, intuition and emptiness." This is not my division but I pointed out a site which has a division which seems one of the better. I personally don't quite see it so black and white; meaning, the gradient is much more gradual, continual and multi-colored. I once said that Daoism seems to evolve as: Primitive Naturalism > Divining and Mythology > Shamanism/Spiritualism > Political Philosophy > Alchemy > Religion > Dark Philosophy > Modern Philosophy To me, it is not "When did folk religion become Daoism", but rather: When did Daoism reveal folk religion? Folk Religion goes back to primitive cultures and that is where we need to look to understand the unfolding of Daoism and the eventual syncretic text known as the DDJ. LZ and ZZ both refer to those prior and that is something I won't overlook. Hongkyung Kim provided this quote in his book on LZ: Du Daojian (1237–1318) stated, “Laozi that the Han people discussed was Laozi of the Han dynasty; Laozi that the Jin people discussed was Laozi of the Jin dynasty; and Laozi that the Tang and Song people discussed was Laozi of the Tang and Song dynasties.” He later said that one cannot prefer one period LZ at the expense another period LZ. I would content this basic point when looking at Daoism if one is to understand the entire history. The evolving nature of how Daoism reveals itself means it inherently always has a prior and thus syncretic in nature. We see this in the LZ, ZZ, and how Sima Qian describes Daoist and thus how Huang-Lao is based.

Is this Supreme Science Qigong with Primack? that's a joke... but then you can study 4 years under a national program and be accepted as a daoist master...

Return to what? In context: Thirsty...

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Avoiding a takedown is like trying to save a lost position in chess against a grandmaster... if the takedown artist knows what they are doing. A true takedown artist is very difficult to avoid. That simple leg step back is not going to do the trick... a true takedown artist wants the step back to occur so the front leg is actually the intended target. Otherwise, some of these videos are very good.

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The Baidu client does not stream any longer; it passes everything off to Quaibo client now.... so you can either get Quaibo client or watch it here with english subs: http://17173.tv.sohu.com/v_102_607/ODU1MTkyOA.html ADDED: For those who use Quaibo, I tested http://www.qire123.com/action/zhishaling/ and the pass off is working as expected. File is 1.9 GB. This quality is probably better than my link but the above link will not need any client.

I'm thinking it gave rise to ONEness... but we're getting off chapters

That was not the point... Dao was before them. We don't need to be before them to understand that Dao was before them and we are them...

Maybe I am Deckard after all... [hint]: Blade Runner

I agree with the various ideas to 'sweat it out'... just look at the items people are suggesting... they will cause a sweat in most. I think being physically healthy, and that is different than say eating healthy, is key. An athlete trains the body in a way that food does not. I get sick about once every 10 years... if that... and that was before my energy work. My energy work has shown me two things: 1. I can weather most anything. My body seems immune to many things. 2. I can drink most any alcohol (my ability to consume very high alcohol took a steep climb which was a surprise... I guess that it can kill all the germs from eating as well). The only times I get sick is due to dramatic weather changes; Last time was when I went from Florida to China in the deep of winter. I was simply not preventative enough as I could of prevented it had I used a little common sense... Oh yea... common sense... what a thought.

Ultimately, finding your destiny is one's unique journey. It will always be difficult for some to understand another's path, even their own is quite troubling at times. I use a different username on every website I join... at first I did it instinctively as I never thought a singular label had any true meaning... it was only later I realized that people actually use the same name on multiple websites... I thought... how mechanical of us humans...

What if the reference point is one and the same as the source? Do we get a null or infinity? In either case, it may be simply an explanation of the 'never empty yet inexhaustibly pouring forth' description of the function of Dao...