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  1. Section 12: The Charisma of the Completed Heart Eno When the heart completed lies within, it cannot be concealed. It may be known through the form and countenance, seen through the skin and expression. When such a one encounters others with the qi of goodness, he becomes closer to them than brothers. When such a one encounters others with the qi of hatred, he is more dangerous then weapons of war. The unspoken sound travels faster than a clap of thunder. The form of the heart’s qi illuminates more brightly than the sun or moon, and is more discerning than a father or mother. Rewards are insufficient to encourage goodness; punishments are insufficient to discipline transgressions. But when the intent of the qi is in one’s grasp, the world will submit. When the intent of the heart is fixed, the world will obey. Linnell: 全 心 在 中 When your whole and complete heart/mind is in the center, 不 可 蔽 匿 It can not be hidden or concealed – 知 於 形 容 It is known in your form's appearance, 見 於 膚 色 It is seen in your skin's color. 善 氣 迎 人 When with virtuous Qi you meet people, 親 於 弟 兄 They will love you as they would their brothers. 惡 氣 迎 人 When with wicked Qi you meet people, 害 於 戎 兵 They will harm you with their weapons of war. 不 言 之 聲 This is because the sound of that which is un-spoken 疾 於 雷 鼓 Travels faster than a clap of thunder. 心 氣 之 形 The form of the heart/mind's Qi 明 於 日 月 Is brighter than the sun and moon, 察 於 父 母 More observant than a father or mother. 賞 不 足 以 勸 善 Rewards are not enough to encourage virtue, 刑 不 足 以 懲 過 Punishments are not enough to discipline excesses. 氣 意 得 而 天 下 服 Qi's intent is attained, and the world obeys; 心 意 定 而 天 下 聽 The heart/mind's intent becomes settled, and the world listens. Roth: -- Section 18 -- 1. When there is a mind that is unimpaired within you, 2. It cannot be hidden. 3. It will be known in your countenance, 4. And seen in your skin colour. 5. If with this good flow of vital energy you encounter others, 6. They will be kinder to you than your own brethren. 7. But if with a bad flow of vital energy you encounter others, 8. They will harm you with their weapons. 9. [This is because] the wordless pronouncement 10. Is more rapid than the drumming of thunder. 11. The perceptible form of the mind’s vital energy 12. Is brighter than the sun and moon, 13. And more apparent that the concern of parents. 14. Rewards are not sufficient to encourage the good; 15. Punishments are not sufficient to discourage the bad. 16. Yet once this flow of vital energy is achieved, 17. All under heaven will submit. 18. And once the mind is made stable, 19. All under heaven will listen. Shazi Daoren: Manifest Qi -- Section 18 When the whole Heart is centered, it cannot be concealed or hidden, it is apparent from your body's appearance, it is visible by your skin color. With good Qi, when you greet others, they will be kinder than brothers and sisters. With bad Qi, when you greet others, they will harm you with force and weapons. The sound of 'no-words', is louder than the thunder of a drum. The perceptible form of the Heart's Qi, is brighter than the sun and moon, and more concerned than parents. Rewards are not sufficient to encourage the good; punishments are not sufficient to discourage the bad. The mind attains Qi, and the world submits. The Heart and mind stabilized, and the world listens. Yueya: -- Section 18 -- An unimpaired heart-mind within you, Cannot be concealed or hidden. It will be known through your countenance, and will be seen in the colour of your skin. If with good qi you encounter others, They will be kinder to you than your brothers. If with harmful qi you encounter others, They will injure you with their weapons. The reverberation of the wordless Is more rapid than the drumming of thunder. The perceptible form of the heart-mind’s qi Is brighter than the sun and moon. It is more manifest than the concern of parents. Rewards are insufficient to encourage goodness; Punishments are insufficient to discourage transgression. And yet, once this exceptional qi is attained, All under the heavens will come to be contained. Once this unimpaired heart-mind is stabilized, All under the heavens will come to listen. Reid: 216 全心在中, Though the heart-mind remains within, {25} 217 不可蔽匿。 It cannot be concealed; 218 和 {26} 於形容, The harmony of the body reveals it. 219 見於膚色。 It is seen in the skin’s colour. 220 善氣迎人, Welcoming others with an energy-breath of goodness 221親於弟兄。 Is like embracing them with the affection of brothers and sisters; 222 惡氣迎人, Welcoming others with an energy-breath of wickedness 223 害於戎兵。 Is like injuring them with a soldier’s spear. 224 不言之聲, Its wordless tone {27} 225 疾於雷鼓。 Strikes like thunder. 226 心氣之形, The manifestations of the heart-mind’s energy-breath 227 明於日月, Illuminate like the sun and moon, 228 察於父母。 And are perceived as though by one’s own mother and father. 229 賞不足以勸善, Rewards are not enough to encourage goodness; 230 刑不足以懲過。 Punishments are not enough to discourage misbehaviour. 231 氣意得 When (the unity of) energy-breath and intention is attained, {28} 232 而天下服。 All under Heaven coordinates; 233 心意定 When the heart-mind and intention become settled, 234 而天下聽。 All under Heaven cooperates. {25} See lines 80-99 of the Xin Shu Xia for comparison with lines 216-230 of the Nei Ye {26} “和 harmony” is usually replaced here with “知 knowledge, known by,” as it appears in Xin Shu Xia line 82. {27} In a similar passage of the XSX, line 87 reads “不言之言 unspoken words.” That the Nei Ye refers again to “tone,” this time with a character bearing no resemblance to intent (using 聲 rather than 音), suggests that resonance and tone were not typos but rather used to refer to something less formed than thoughts, such as “sentiment.” It may be that intent (意) was still being defined at this point, and so notions of inner tone and resonance were used to describe it. {28} Reading line 231 as such follows the many references to inner unification throughout the text. The term “energy of intent (意氣)” can be found in line 12 of Xin Shu Xia, where the syntax suggests it.
  2. that's fine to explain the goodness of nordic areas but there is no explanation why and how it worked. And then explain how that can be applied to the US, if possible. I am not sure why you end it with a reference to anal sex? Isn't this homophobic or not, or just a prison cliche? I thought such talk was now against the rules. I hope this is not what the website is now attracting.
  3. I can't debate the realm of countries as x, y, or z... but this topic caught my eye the other day: Danish PM in US: Denmark is not socialist SWEDISH EX-PRIME MINISTER REBUKES BERNIE: SOCIALISM ONLY DESTROYS Maybe the subtlety is their socialized medicine but not really saying they are socialist countries. I would agree the military mentality is problematic. Several countries want to maintain a global eye and presence. Maybe the Nordic are surrounded by better neighbors.
  4. Section 10: Physical Perfection Eno When a man is able to attain balanced tranquility, his skin is sleek, his flesh full, his eyes sharp, his ears keen, his muscles taut, his bones sturdy. And so he is able to carry the great circle of heaven on his head and tread upon the great square of earth. He finds his reflection in the great purity and sees by the great light. Attentive and cautious, he never errs, and every day renews the force of his virtue. Knowing everything in the world and exhausting the four poles of the earth, he attentively nurtures his plenitude: this is called: grasping within. To be so and never to revert is life without error. Linnell: 人 能 正 靜 When people can be properly aligned and still : 皮 膚 裕 寬 Their hair and skin are abundant and smooth, 耳 目 聰 明 Their ears and eyes are acute and clear, 筋 伸 而 骨 強 Their muscles are supple and their bones are strong. 乃 能 戴 大 圜 Then they can support the great circle of heaven, 而 履 大 方 And walk on the great square of earth. 鑒 於 大 清 They are a reflection of great purity, 視 於 大 明 They see with great clarity. 敬 慎 無 忒 Respectful and cautious, they are without error; 日 新 其 德 Each day they renew their De. 遍 知 天 下 They understand the whole world 窮 於 四 極 Thoroughly out to the four extremes. 敬 發 其 充 They respectfully* develop their fullness; 是 謂 內 得 This is called inner attainment. 然 而 不 反 However, if they do not return [to their original nature], 此 生 之 忒 This creates errors. Roth: -- Section 16 -- 1. If people can be aligned and tranquil, 2. Their skin will be ample and smooth, 3. Their eas and ears will be acute and clear, 4. Their muscles will be supple and their bones will be strong, 5. They will then be able to hold up the Great Circle [of the heavens] 6. And tread firmly over the Great Square [of the earth]. 7. They will mirror things with great purity. 8. And they will perceive things with great clarity. 9. Reverently be aware [of the Way] and do not waver, 10. And you will daily renew your inner power, 11. Thoroughly understand all under the heavens, 12. And exhaust everything within the Four Directions. 13. To reverently bring forth the effulgence [of the Way]: 14. This is called "inward attainment." 15. If you do this but fail to return to it, 16. This will cause a wavering in your vitality. Shazi Daoren: Inner Virtue -- Section 16 -- If you are able to be aligned and tranquil, your skin will be supple and smooth, your ears and eyes will be acute and clear, your muscles will flex and your bones strong. You will then be able to bear the Great Circle of heaven, and tread over the Great Square of earth. You will abase yourself with great purity, perceiving with great clarity. Be reverently aware without wavering, and you will daily renew your Virtue. Completely comprehending the world, drawing from the Four Directions, reverently developing your wholeness, this is called Inner Virtue. However, should you not return to practice, this will increase your instability. Yueya: -- Section 16 -- If people are able to be aligned and tranquil, Their skin will be ample and smooth, Their ears and eyes will be acute and bright, Their sinews will be supple, and their bones will be strong. Then they will be able to hold up the Great Circle [of the Heavens], And they will tread firmly on the Great Square [of the Earth]. They will mirror all [reality] with great clarity; They will perceive through great luminosity. Be reverent and careful and do not waiver. Daily replenish your inner power. Thoroughly come to know all under the heavens, And investigate everything within the four directions. To reverently manifest this effulgence. This is called “internal attainment.” If you do this but fail in its reversal, This will cause a disruption in vitality. Reid: 192 人能正靜 , When people can align and quiet themselves,{23} 193 皮膚裕寬, Their skin’s surface is rich and full; 194 耳目聰明, Their ears and eyes are acute and perceptive; 195 筋信而骨強, Their muscles and tendons are strong and flexible; their bones are strong and firm. 196 乃能戴大圜, They can wear the great circle (Heaven) as their head covering, 197 而履大方。 And the great square (Earth) as their shoes. 198 鑒於大清, In the great clarity, they are reflected; 199 視於大明。 With the great illumination, they observe. 200 敬慎無忒, Being respectful and careful, they are without error; 201 日新其德; Daily refreshing their virtue, 202 徧知天下, They know every place under Heaven. 203 窮於四極, Wherever there is deficiency in the four directions, 204 敬發其充, They reverently supply. 205 是謂內得。 This is called “internal attainment.” 206 然而不反, From this, they do not depart, 207 此生之忒。 For doing so would give rise to error. {23} Lines 192-204 of the Nei Ye reflect lines 70-79 of the Xin Shu Xia
  5. Section 9: The flood-like essence Eno Where essence is stored there is spontaneous life: externally it blooms in contentment, internally it is stored as a wellspring. Flood-like, it is harmonious and even, the fountainhead of the qi. When the fountainhead never runs dry, the limbs are firm. When the wellspring is never exhausted, the nine bodily orifices are penetrating.* Thereupon one may exhaust heaven and earth and cover the four seas. Within, there are no confused thoughts, without, there are no irregular disasters. The heart complete within, the form is complete without: encountering neither disasters from Tian, nor harm from man. This is called: the sage. * The nine orifices include mouth, eyes, nostrils, ears, anus, and urethra. Linnell: 精 存 自 生 Where essence exists, there is naturally life – 其 外 安 榮 Outside you, calmness flourishes; 內 藏 以 為 泉 原 It collects inside you, thus acting as a primal spring. 浩 然 和 平 Like a vast lake, it is harmonious and equable. 以 為 氣 淵 It thus becomes a fountainhead of Qi. 淵 之 不 涸 As long as the fountainhead does not dry up, 四 體 乃 固 The four limbs are then strong. 泉 之 不 竭 When the spring is not used up, 九 竅 遂 通 The nine bodily openingsP are then open [to the flow of Qi]. 乃 能 窮 天 地 Then you can span the limits of heaven and earth, 被 四 海 And cover the four seas. 中 無 惑 意 When the center is without doubt or desire, 外 無 邪 菑 The outside is without demonic disasters. 心 全 於 中 Those whose heart/mind is whole and complete in the center : 形 全 於 外 Their form is whole and complete on the outside, 不 逢 天 菑 They do not happen to meet heavenly disasters, 不 遇 人 害 They do not encounter people who cause harm – 謂 之 聖 人 We call them sages. Roth -- Section 15 -- 1. For those who preserve and naturaly generate vital essence 2. On the outside a calmness will flourish. 3. Stored inside, we take it to be the well spring. 4. Floodlike, it harmonizes and equalixes 5. And we take it to be the fount of the vital energy. 6. When the fount is not dried up, 7. The four limbs are firm. 8. When the spring is not drained, 9. Vital energy freely circulates through the nine apertures. 10. You can then exhaust the heavens and the earth 11. And spread over the four seas. 12. When you have no delusions within you, 13. Externally there will be no disasters. 14. Those who keep their minds unimpaired within, 15. Externally keep their bodies unimpaired, 16. Who do not encounter heavenly disasters 17. Or meet with harm at the hands of others, 18. Call them Sages. Shazi Daoren: The Fount of Qi -- Section 15 -- When Jing is preserved, it naturally grows, externally it will emanate. Hidden inside, it becomes a primal spring. Abounding like a flood, it harmonizes and equalizes, it becomes a fount of Qi. When the fount is not dried up, the four limbs are firm. When the spring is not drained, the nine apertures freely circulate [Qi]. Then you are able to exhaust the universe, and cover the four seas. Within, when your mind is unconfused, without, there will be no disasters. When your heart is whole within, your body will be whole without, and you won't encounter natural disasters, or receive harm from others. Call such 'Shengren'. Yueya: -- Section 15 -- With vital essence preserved and naturally generated, Calmness will come to flourish externally. Stored internally, we consider this to be the well-spring. Flood-like, it harmonizes and balances. We consider it to be the source of qi. When this source does not become exhausted, The four limbs are firm and strong. When the well-spring does not become drained, The Nine Cavities are in accord and connected. Then you may fully investigate the heavens and earth. You may then extend to the four oceans. At your centre, there will be no delusions; Externally, there will be no deviation or calamity. The heart-mind will be unimpaired at the centre; The body will be unimpaired in its appearance. Such people do not encounter celestial calamities; Such people do not meet with harm from others. We call these individuals “sages.” Reid: 174 精存自生, When pure and vital essence remains, life-energy spontaneously emerges. 175 其外安榮, One is then externally peaceful and radiant, 176 內藏以為泉原。 Concealing this surging wellspring within. 177 浩然和平, As a flood of harmony and peacefulness, 178 以為氣淵。 It becomes an abyss of energy-breath. 179 淵之不涸, If this abyss does not dry up, 180 四體乃固, The four limbs solidify; 181 泉之不竭, If this wellspring is not exhausted, 182 九竅遂通, The nine bodily orifices are free and unblocked. 183 乃能窮天地, One can then absorb all of Heaven and Earth, 184 被四 海。 Covering the four seas. 185 中無惑意, Within, one’s intention is not vacillating; 186 外無邪菑, Externally, they are without affliction and calamity. 187 心全於中, Their heart-mind is maintained, within, 188 形全於外, And their body is maintained, externally. 189 不逢天菑, They do not meet upon calamity, 190 不遇人害, Nor do they encounter hostile people. 191 謂之聖人。 We call them “sages.”
  6. Neiye - Section 11 - The Nature of the Dao

    Roth seems to have translated this very closely to his translation of the Jade inscription, founded in 400 BC:
  7. Section 11: The Nature of the Dao Eno The Dao is always abundant and dense, always broad and easy, always hard and steady. Guard the good and never release it, expel excess and let go of narrowness. Once knowing the extremes, return to the force of the Dao. Linnell: 凡 道 Always : Dao is 必 周 必 密 Certainly complete, certainly all-pervasive, 必 寬 必 舒 Certainly magnanimous, certainly relaxed, 必 堅 必 固 Certainly hard, certainly strong. 守 善 勿 舍 Maintain your virtue and never give up; 逐 淫 釋 薄 To pursue excess disperses and weakens it. 既 知 其 極 Once you understand the extremes, 反 於 道 德 Return to Dao and De. Roth: -- Section 17 -- 1. For all [to practice] this Way: 2. You must coil, you must contract, 3. You must uncoil, you must expand, 4. You must be firm, you must be regular [in this practice]. 5. Hold fast to this excellent [practice]; do not let go of it. 6. Chase away the excessive; abandon the trivial. 7. And when you reach its ultimate limit 8. You will return to the Way and the inner power. Shazi Daoren: Practicing Dao -- Section 17 -- To be wholly in accord with Dao, you must practice, you must focus, you must expand, you must relax, you must be firm, you must be regular. Hold fast to excellence, do not let abandon it. Chase away excess, let go of the trivial. Once you know the Ultimate, you will return to Dao and De. Yueya: -- Section 17 -- Considering the practice of the Dao, You must coil, you must contract. You must uncoil, you must expand. You must be firm, you must be dedicated. Guard adeptness and do not become lax. Chase away the excessive, discard the trivial. When you reach the ultimate limit, You will return to the Dao and inner power. Reid: 208 凡道 Invariably, Dao 209 必周必密, Is sure to enclose, sure to condense, 210 必寬必舒, Sure to expand, sure to open, 211 必堅必固。 Sure to strengthen, sure to solidify. 212守善勿舍, It preserves excellence (yet) does not dwell. 213 逐淫澤薄。 It removes excess and nourishes {24} where there is weakness. 214 既知其極, Having known the furthest limits, 215 反於道德。 Return to Dao and Virtue. 24 “澤 Swamp, fertilize” is usually replaced here with “釋 release”
  8. Neiye - Section 10 - Physical Perfection

    Ok, I'll bite... I might try to find a comparison between a mirror (鑒) and actually looking/seeing (視). Nobody seems to go there.
  9. Neiye - Section 9 - The Flood-like Essence

    I tend to agree... seems out of place.
  10. Forum speed and topic move

    I confirmed the setting was turned off last week.
  11. Forum speed and topic move

    AH. It's written right there in the box and never noticed that. thanks
  12. Forum speed and topic move

    I noticed that too... and was before any server move.
  13. Forum speed and topic move

    Damn you man... blame the cat !!! I was silently cursing google chrome... but seems JoeBlast said they are CIA implant... am I being wire-tapped now too ?
  14. Forum speed and topic move

    I remember that vid... for the record: despite the boy who leaves his brother...they are both ok
  15. Newbie here, hope to learn from everyone

    Wu Xia... great movie with the great Donnie Yen (甄子丹 - zhen zi dan - distinguish the dan - or Donnie). Welcome
  16. Forum speed and topic move

    i've been in the front and back end without any issues.
  17. You covered so many ideas but seemed to be suggesting the US has become a runaway train ride of capitalism that needs socialist turns to slow down. I think that fair to say but I see the real difficulty is that capitalism creates a kind of power struggle which is then almost impossible to dismantle as who is going to give up the power? Social Security and Medicare are essentially socialist programs, yes (?), so the US is not really foreign to adopting socialist ideas; likely they prefer to not admit the label. I've wondered why we have not tried to expand those programs instead of creating new things. I was against Obamacare. Not because of its universal enforcement but the messaging was easily seen to be no true and not thought out. It seemed to me, it was easy to see the train wreck it would produce. It wrecked really hard here in FL when provider after provider stopped offering; some states were worse with no providers left. I though they should just have a program for the poorest... so why didn't they just expand medicare to cover the poorest families. It is a system that works and doesn't need to be built; maybe re-tooled but it has a foundation. After they get it working for the poor, then move up the ladder. But the really big problem is that costs have to come down. And those in power [in the medical, pharmaceutical, etc] don't give up power easily. So in a way, the karmic tide of capitalism is real.
  18. Trump talk

    Thanks for that... found it somewhat interesting, particularly how he describes the illegal workforce as more flexible and concludes with one idea to make legal work visas more flexible. I think that is a good idea. While he says amnesty doesn't deter but encourages illegal crossings, he is basically advocating it still (if I read him right). It is somewhat dated and would be interesting to see what he would say since the time of publication. he contends illegal crossings raise when work is more favorable in the US relative to Mexico but those crossing now are made up more of not from Mexico and doesn't seem related to our economy (however good it is) but other countries conditions. I'll hope for never seeing that day.
  19. I wouldn't doubt I have political blindspot I've only voted one time in my life and it was for Ross Perot to protest the two party system. I would never participate in a real protest. I've never paid attention to politics till halfway through Obama. I've just never been interested long enough to form strong positions that fall neatly into a name. Maybe there's one out there but I have no interest to attempt a search just so I can give it a name. I now kind of like the idea that I have no idea what is right or left.
  20. Trump talk

    Definitely uncalled for but no outrage when Bernie Sanders compared them to a third world country and said North Koreans even have a longer life span.
  21. Except I don't have a personal political preference... so your mis-interpretation may be the point... that others took a similar mis-interpretation. I don't like to trash talk people, so my lack of offensive language means I side with a side? I'm sure that is not your meaning but it kind of comes through a bit. I like to leave the trash talking to those who like to do it. I am for freedom of speech as was mentioned but the idea that an extreme left or right should be valued is idealistic and not the way here. Such folks are usually gone rather quickly, or not allowed. [General talk, not meant directed to quote].
  22. Trump talk

    I find this an interesting issue and can see the economic benefit... but if we released everyone from prison, won't we also see more people contribute to the economy as well ? But the point is about the illegal immigrants. It has a pesky problem of law as well. While I do agree with the economic view, this seems double talk: legal immigration that reflects illegal labor... I had to read that a few times. So his argument is: if we allowed for illegal labor we would reduce illegal immigration? I must be reading that wrong as that would become an open border issue, yes ?
  23. Facebook Mounts Effort to Limit Tide of Fake News Facebook’s fake news tools are no match for the Facebook echo chamber FIrst off... I think that FB has been treated a bit unfairly about fake news... meaning, they don't generate it but I understand the concern is they will share it without any any consideration. I heard one of their first comments that, FB is not an editorial platform; they're not trying to control what folks read and that is what editors do (aka: newspapers or new stations). That seemed as well tempered position at the start. Now it seems they want to have a means to let users flag news and enough "reports" could cause the review of an item that could then be marked in some way. I would prefer to see this get pushed back to news organizations as needing to adhere to some standard of compliance and they rate their news and if they later find this is fake new, they would be required to reset that rating accordingly... as 'data', this would pass to FB and be updated if they update the rating. FB can make the source very prominent along with the source's rating. Somewhere else, they can have statistics on how often a sources articles get changed... Google ought to be the one interested in this kind of data idea too. Others thoughts?
  24. I would therefore say I have no idea what "left" and "right" means.
  25. Ok, that makes sense. Sorry to hear this. I do get irked knowing the CEOs are making money hand over foot while such conditions are known.