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You are absolute... but not just male.... you may be a consort on some level too

brilliant... only read one other person seem to suggest this before.. Sifu Flowing Hands... So now you are Sifu Rene to me

I think the common denominator to go higher in most useful systems is an open heart. In chinese, Xin means heart-mind and there is good reason to realize they are one. And to get past astral and physical levels, an open heart is the gateway. Try this: List on paper what things you cannot accept, believe or accept... when the list is empty, you will be ready to move to a new level and then realize what those previous items mean. For now, pick a system that seems to resonate but always believe there is a higher method; baby steps are good. Try two ideas: 1. Finger in a circle: This was a long time ago so don't recall the exact order... Once on a flight, the lady next to me was reading a rather a spiritual good on energy. I asked her if she wanted to test the idea of energy and she agreed. I used my index finger and moved it in a circle in the palm of her hand and asked if she felt the circular motion... she did. The value in her concentration via looking helped her engage... then I asked her to use her own index finger and do it to herself... she felt it... then I said, close your eyes and see if you feel it. I did it without my finger but just my mind... she felt it. Her conscious and subconscious believed the previous actions enough to engage with my mind. 2. Hug a tree: Again, long ago... My Taiji master asked if I wouldn't teach the first class as he would be away. I agreed. I asked them about their background of study as this was an acupuncture school. THey said they just finished Qigong class but dancing around as monkey's they didn't really feel anything. I told them that we'd go outside to hug trees to understand energy. There was a very large tree, likely five people who joined arms could fill its perimeter. I went through a few breathing warmups and with us standing about a foot from each other around the tree, we put our hands upward and breathed a connection to the tree... then we stepped three steps to the right... over and over. I later asked them all, where on the tree was there the most energy. They all felt it in the exact same spot.... What I learned in Qigong, Medical Qigong and Taiji is that the body is fully connected in energy although we may not feel or experience it as someone new to it. I could offer the support to them to feel it. And then I found that level above astral and physical... I left everything beyond.

Before any staff fulfills this request, I am talking with him about some things...

When i first learned Qigong, I was doing classes where 90% of it was pairs/group energy work. I had assumed all classes were done that way but seems rarely taught right off the bat. So it came rather natural to not just believe it but do it. In general, we are all sharing energy all the time we just don't realize and/or feel it. When it gets setup as a loop (one person is transmitting and the other is receiving), it can feel more like an attraction effect or even merging on some level. Our bodies act both a conduit (varies due to openness) and filter (varies due to issues/fears/blocks we have) and that affects the qualify of the energy on some level. If Qi feels sticky it could be the other person's energy quality or your own issues/fears. But working with high level energy like with deities helps to 'purify' in a way.

If you are embracing, you are still separate from the other.

To get the greatest or most efficient effect, you should. On inhale, in either normal or reversed, the perineum should tuck upwards, and on exhale relax downward. Breath, stomach, perineum and diaphragm should all work together.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You likely know like us all... this is an online presence where real personalities can be in a range of honesty to being masked and manipulated to show an online self. That is the playground of any forum. There can be ideals, like I hope everyone plays fair and respects each other, like our rules state, but the honest truth is that is just not going to happen at times given the format. So it is like trusting members to be themselves but without crossing certain lines. Those lines have to do with other members and staff. If one cannot know when they 'cannot back down' vs when to back down, they can easily see from history those members don't remain here. That is a simple fact. As to the FPCK thread, it is a bit disgraceful what a few are doing. I'm thinking of restoring it to its original place but locking it. Then let zen-bear start his own. But we're certain that the original poster would want better a decorum regarding the thread and we're reaching out to him. In the end, it would be the same effect as now. I'm not sure why folks can't see that.

China has been doing knock-offs for thousands of years. It is in their blood to do so. So doing it anywhere outside of china would not surprise me. Also possible a north vs south cuisine different for the same dish too. I would not put any effort to it and simply attend the restaurant you like.

Havana .... by Trump !!! LOL Original:

Anyone associated with the past scammer issues at TDB from maybe the last six years is immediately banned. He has no right to be here to defined himself. He has been banned before and any attempt to return will be dealt with a ban. Please do not use TDB to communicate with such people. You can certainly use your email instead. But I would ask everyone who gets an offer to buy materials for $$$ regarding Doo Wai material to immediately report the PM so staff can evaluate it. If it is determined someone is having communication with them in TDB, they are subject to immediate an ban. A review of you, based on a report had very little to do with FPCK thread but your rude and at least one threatening post, plus how you respond to staff requests, and also try to go around staff decisions. Hope that is more clear at this point. I think I read this story now more than once, Isn't it time to just move onto something else? (Rhetorical, but that is the wish and what the notice was hopefully going to help you understand it is time to do so. )

I think he should be thankful as a notice is lower than a warning is lower than a suspension. Gives a clear chance to stay in play and not go out of bounds.

~~~ ADMIN NOTICE ~~~ DSCB57 is under review for making disparaging, insulting and belittling comments to members and staff in multiple topics. It would be best not to hijack this thread in an off-topic way and not add to the list of items under review in a report that was submitted. Thanks and let's move on with letting staff do their part here and folks posting to the topic.

There was lots of confusion with this account creating upwards of 8 accounts... but talking with Jamie we have cleared it up that only a single account is allowed. Sorry for all the hub-bub of enforcing our website polices on multiple accounts with the concern they are just spammers or trollers. We have resolved this now. Welcome back to TDB

I remember one day while driving, suddenly thinking about RAB... and decided to do it while driving.. As the energy circulated to a point, I realized I need to stop it to just focus on driving

YES ! and yet... so much more too

Know the zen story: First there are mountains then no mountains and then mountains ? There is ego then no ego and then ego. Last stage is a healthy perception of mountains or ego... Some walk through the valley of death to know this... others just do it through practices...

I would not over think this. If you feel movement then focus and practice a bit.

Sorry.. I think I agreed with an earlier comment you had... I didn't mean towards the anus. The perineum draw is vertical upwards. The anus might close and pull up too but that is a focus. In my experience it is rather slight but noticeable, why I said to touch the area. You want to know it is moving. You can actually practice it without doing the RAB at all, or moving the stomach... that is when you know you have control over it. But the main point is, they work together and why best to do as a complete set.

As an addict to Taoist cosmology, I was formulating a post but your beat me to some point... Laozi is not the best source of Taoist cosmology... there are about 4-5 texts which are much more revealing. His is more a summary of the manifest unfolding. The Taiyishenshui states, in one study: that the Taiyi sheng shui is the only text which explicitly reflects the idea of reciprocal assistance and interdependence among different phases of the cosmologic process. To be specific the Taiyi sheng shui says: “太一生水, 水反輔太一, 是以成天” (Taiyi [Grand One] gives birth to water. Water returns and assists Taiyi, thereby forming Heaven.) This passage clearly implies a reciprocal interaction and interdependence between the cosmogonic phases of Taiyi and water. To be specific, although Taiyi generates water according to the Taiyi sheng shui,, water assists Taiyi in forming the other cosmogonic stage of tian 天. Likewise, though the Taiyi sheng shui offers an account of somewhat hierarchical steps of genesis similar to those offered by other Chinese texts on cosmogony, the Taiyi sheng shui is particularly noteworthy in that it explicitly illustrates reciprocal interaction between the different cosmogonic stages. The other very ancient text, HengXian, Primordial Beginnings, is also a better text for Taoist cosmological understanding. To the comments so far, it may be like a wave coming to the shore that splashes up and returns to sea and then returns to the short to 'return and assist', over and over... thus creating a new expansion of One on each return. I get that some might call that Two, Three, etc. but that is from the perspective of the manifest and not original origins, whereby the original One becomes a new One each time.

Dr. Yang's books are the best to describe it.

IMO, that is what you want as 'upward'. It should not feel like a strain like your are overly flexing or pulling it. It is more like the breath is connected to it and it draws up and then relaxes on exhale.

very interesting point... I just put down my bowl of rice and beef and started to do some RAB... and yes, the huiyin engages prior to the stomach. The stomach seems to just naturally follow it.

I'd encourage you to get the perineum movement down. When the navel draws inward, the perineum draws upward. The good news is they are coordinated like this for normal abdominal and reverse breathing so you could try the other method to see if you feel it any more. Also, you can put your finger on your perineum when doing the breathing to see if it is moving. In some cases you may even feel it is moving but once you touch it you find out it does not.