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There is a really big issue with translations and that has to do with culture, which is difficult to translate in a line. The literal translation is to, 'pay back according to virtue' (virtue / goodness / morality / ethics / kindness / favor / character / kind) Of course, pay back can be understood as positive or negative but the meaning here is positive. There are some translations that are just more practical than academic. David Hinton 2002 63 If you're nothing doing what you do, you act without acting and savor without savoring, you render the small vast and the few many, use Integrity to repay hatred, Dwight Goddard 1919 63 One should avoid assertion (wu wei) and practice inaction. One should learn to find taste in the tasteless, to enlarge the small things, and multiply the few. He should respond to hatred with kindness. Bradford Hatcher 2005 63 Act without acting Work without working Savor without tasting Greatness is ordinary, much is little Repay ill will with virtue Wing-Tsit Chan 1963 63 Act without action. Do without ado. Taste without tasting. Whether it is big or small, many or few, repay hatred with virtue. Gu Zhengku 1993 63 Act by means of inaction; Deal with matters by means of not being meddlesome; Taste by means of tastelessness. The big stems from the small; The many is based on the few. To overcome the difficult should begin with the easy; Ch'u Ta-Kao 1904 63 Act non-action; undertake no undertaking; taste the tasteless. The Sage desires the desireless, and prizes no articles that are difficult to get. He learns no learning, but reviews what others have passed through. Thus he lets all things develop in their own natural way, and does not venture to act. Regard the small as the great; regard the few as many. Manage the difficult while they are easy; Flowing Hands 1987 63 In the Universe, the Dao and the Ten Thousand Things all flow according to their natures. The Heavenly bodies move and glow according to how they were formed Man should take note of this and exercise himself according to their influence, and then he will be in keeping with the Dao. By following the flow and entering into emptiness, practise the ways of doing without doing, influencing without interfering. For the Heavenly bodies influence our lives, but we can never feel their influence. The Sage follows the flow and so he practises influence without interfering. He rewards anger and strife with care and understanding. He meets aggression with yielding softness. So he remains at one, unattached and unharmed. His nature is simple and yielding. So he never complicates his life. He never demands too much of the people

Please take a nap

You're trolling again... but I know you ... we are brothers... FWIW.. minor one plays with bait. major one is the bait. I'll excuse the rape metaphors... let's not go there.

There seems to be no longer a way to figure out if a member was banned... no more banned group signage. Did you ban this member, or what's the meaning here?

There are trolls... and there are TROLLS... I don't know mark ... but limahong is a major pain in the ass... trolling with good fun, videos to make someone smile or laugh or have a good time... he's beyond incurable.. I've meet worse but ... he and I chatted a lot off TDBs about life. There is so much more than what you will find on Bums alone.

That's an interesting concept... I'm glad you shared it but not sure this forum software does it.

Thanks. Fwiw... Past handling was to move a removed members ppd to the sleeping pod section. Selective hiding of a removed members ppd posts seems a bit odd but I get it.

Please post what is hidden and what violations you can cite. Thanks.

I follow your point but tend to see it as an attack on anything that is a crutch or dependency over naturalness (what is often referred to as zi ran). Strip away the influential forces that we label as important and what we're left with is naked existence. It may be a call to return to one's 'senses'.

Please define anarcharistic with examples

I think the idea is that they are modelling humility and as such, the maxim shared in the next line explains the result: that one gains by losing. It seems to put high esteem on the dukes and emperors.

Thanks for the reply.

If this is your experience, then maybe you can defined "coming up often". Thanks.

I'll agree to stand corrected as well. There is nothing personal going on. Not sure why that always seems to come up.

Nothing burger. Just getting a good laugh here. And can you define "of late" ? and lately ? So now, a single day is "of late" for you and everyone here? That is more laughs... don't you get it yet ? I can guarantee you have much better things to do than this So, whats wrong or right with you lately ? BTW: My job as contractor to the federal government is non-stop... even any shutdown does not shut down our deliverables. Amazing to think folks work for a living and then get some respite, yes?

in a word, chiaroscuro. Defined as the use of strong contrasts between light and dark, usually bold contrasts affecting a whole composition. Caravaggio's Judith beheading Holofernes compare to what is said to possibly be his second edition and then by Gentileschi

wrong assumption... but go ahead and file that as, "I am correct" if it helps. I just don't get into labeling and judging people and groups. Good luck with that.

Don't you have something better to do than this ? You could simply ask... I work from home... last 20 years. The lockdown is a nothing burger.

Ok, you can read your own words or not. Thanks for replying.

You raised an objection without evidence. Now you ask me for the evidence? Let's not play with words and labels. You choose certain labels you choose to use to mean something derogatory. So someone who you call a libertarian, but that person holds no label over themself, is not someone that your heart sees as someone who could possible take an interest in daoism? So you would say: if they are within a label you put on them but they don't hold themself, they are not within the realm of someone who could possible take an interest in daoism? Edit: You just wrote this in another thread again ... this is my point. Your lack. The Great Way certainly is all-encompassing and yet I’m always a little surprised when intolerance, selfishness, and lack of empathy are exhibited by spiritual practitioners.

Yet you said here: Why invalidate those experiences?

this fish

great analogy... then, every choice we make?

fish is each of us. Ocean is transparency. Depth Is hidden.

no. I never much paid attention to Lau. Just changed up the translators a bit.